Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
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I just remember this sticking in the mind
http://europe.autonews.com/article/20160108/ANE/16...
Europe = largest market.
http://europe.autonews.com/article/20160108/ANE/16...
Europe = largest market.
skahigh said:
Told you so! gazapc said:
///ajd said:
No, they have quietly established who is in charge.
The UK has threatened EU migrant status to be put in doubt after "black/backward wednesday", or whatever we should call it. That was a bit stoopid of the brexiteers.
Now the EU is saying "can you take back all that bollcks UK and secure migrant rights please. Otherwise no negotiations. Your move, amateurs!"
The hot air and bravado is soon to be exposed for what it is. Singing Rule Britannia won't help.
Or perhaps you want to blame the EU for Davis being a lightweight moron?
The UK has threatened EU migrant status to be put in doubt after "black/backward wednesday", or whatever we should call it. That was a bit stoopid of the brexiteers.
Now the EU is saying "can you take back all that bollcks UK and secure migrant rights please. Otherwise no negotiations. Your move, amateurs!"
The hot air and bravado is soon to be exposed for what it is. Singing Rule Britannia won't help.
Or perhaps you want to blame the EU for Davis being a lightweight moron?
It's like that bit from Star Wars, "Let the hate flow through you".
///ajd said:
Now the EU is saying "can you take back all that bollcks UK and secure migrant rights please. Otherwise no negotiations. Your move, amateurs!"
Great news. UK Government policy will have got its way and lives of all those affected will be more secure. It's a shame the EU didn't allow this item be discussed many months ago and instead went ultra-hard EU.Surely May's proposals to treat EU arrivals differently after Wednesday is just another facet of the grandstanding prior to negotiations actually starting. As is the EU response.
There's no "oh the EU has scuppered May" "it's a winning move" or whatevers else was said or implied, really can't be bothered to read back to get the accurate quotes, the sentiments are clear.
It's been made clear that EU citizens will retain their rights providing that agreement can be reached. Once again, it's stty, but this could have been got out of the way, but the EU are doing everything they can to delay things. More reasons to be done with them.
There's no "oh the EU has scuppered May" "it's a winning move" or whatevers else was said or implied, really can't be bothered to read back to get the accurate quotes, the sentiments are clear.
It's been made clear that EU citizens will retain their rights providing that agreement can be reached. Once again, it's stty, but this could have been got out of the way, but the EU are doing everything they can to delay things. More reasons to be done with them.
king arthur said:
ralphrj said:
All 3 regions pretty much the same.
JLR retail volumes Q3 FY17:
China region 24%
Europe (excl. Russia & UK) 23%
North America 23%
UK 16%
That's quite remarkable actually. They sell more in China than they do in the whole of the rest of the EU!JLR retail volumes Q3 FY17:
China region 24%
Europe (excl. Russia & UK) 23%
North America 23%
UK 16%
But most cars sold in China are also made in China, along with a joint venture with a Chinese firm who must have at least 50% control.
So how much does the UK benefit when one of its companies who is owned by an Indian firm that manufactures/sells in China for the Chinese market?
Edited by Chris944_S2 on Tuesday 28th March 18:29
///ajd said:
skahigh said:
Told you so! ///ajd said:
Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
I agree a 10% export tariff would be a problem. Direct compensation is illegal though there are other ways to skin a cat - still taxpayers money at the end of the day, unless you just take it from the imported BMW. Which is still taxpayers money at the end of the day.
I think it should be inconceivable that we leave without a deal; is that what Davis is saying? May seems to be walking back on this but we'll see. It is an admission that we have to compromise with the EU to get a deal - there is no choice. Their wish list - no list of demands - is long. They have already out played May in status of EU migrants. Resolve it or no negotiations. 1-0 to the EU. Dept for Brexit=Amateurs!!
Out played May on EU immigrant status ? The EU is playing games with them you clot. Your ability to talk st is epic !I think it should be inconceivable that we leave without a deal; is that what Davis is saying? May seems to be walking back on this but we'll see. It is an admission that we have to compromise with the EU to get a deal - there is no choice. Their wish list - no list of demands - is long. They have already out played May in status of EU migrants. Resolve it or no negotiations. 1-0 to the EU. Dept for Brexit=Amateurs!!
The UK has threatened EU migrant status to be put in doubt after "black/backward wednesday", or whatever we should call it. That was a bit stoopid of the brexiteers.
Now the EU is saying "can you take back all that bollcks UK and secure migrant rights please. Otherwise no negotiations. Your move, amateurs!"
The hot air and bravado is soon to be exposed for what it is. Singing Rule Britannia won't help.
Or perhaps you want to blame the EU for Davis being a lightweight moron?
I think even the majority of Remainers on here wish you would stop talking crap, probably best examples by the fact that JawKnee said you were the only one talking sense.
Funny how appalled you were at first when you tried to use it as a guilt trip on here. Now we now what happened you've spun it right around and making out it's a smart move on their part to use them !
Your ability to talk ball locks still knows no bounds.
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
skahigh said:
Told you so! I can imagine the hysteria from ///ajd getting worse tomorrow, 'Wonderful Wednesday', I hope he's got some Valium or Prozac to hand!
don'tbesilly said:
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
skahigh said:
Told you so! I can imagine the hysteria from ///ajd getting worse tomorrow, 'Wonderful Wednesday', I hope he's got some Valium or Prozac to hand!
I bet ///ajd hasn't been this worried since 'Y2K'
FN2TypeR said:
Elysium said:
I agree. For months the biggest risk to Brexit has been the hardcore Tory Brexiteers. However, the abject capitulation of labour has left them in control, for now.
The Tories have a majority and May is brooking no descent on this one - apart from Ken Clarke who is a mild nuisance to her at worst, so what are Labour to do apart from make a load of noise from the sidelines??I think that will change in the coming months and we are already seeing that in the ridiculous idea that they will only vote for a Brexit deal that maintains the exact benefits we enjoy now (i.e. a deal that will never happen).
Elysium said:
...I think that will change in the coming months and we are already seeing that in the ridiculous idea that they will only vote for a Brexit deal that maintains the exact benefits we enjoy now (i.e. a deal that will never happen).
If Labour want to end up with as many seats as the LibDems, they will raise their voices against Brexit.Their traditional heartlands (now Scotland seems as lost to them as it is for the Tories) were all, apart from London, Leave biased. They would be committing political suicide. (Which many Labour MPs may well want).
Murph7355 said:
Elysium said:
...I think that will change in the coming months and we are already seeing that in the ridiculous idea that they will only vote for a Brexit deal that maintains the exact benefits we enjoy now (i.e. a deal that will never happen).
If Labour want to end up with as many seats as the LibDems, they will raise their voices against Brexit.Their traditional heartlands (now Scotland seems as lost to them as it is for the Tories) were all, apart from London, Leave biased. They would be committing political suicide. (Which many Labour MPs may well want).
Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
I agree a 10% export tariff would be a problem. Direct compensation is illegal though there are other ways to skin a cat - still taxpayers money at the end of the day, unless you just take it from the imported BMW. Which is still taxpayers money at the end of the day.
I think it should be inconceivable that we leave without a deal; is that what Davis is saying? May seems to be walking back on this but we'll see. It is an admission that we have to compromise with the EU to get a deal - there is no choice. Their wish list - no list of demands - is long. They have already out played May in status of EU migrants. Resolve it or no negotiations. 1-0 to the EU. Dept for Brexit=Amateurs!!
Out played May on EU immigrant status ? The EU is playing games with them you clot. Your ability to talk st is epic !I think it should be inconceivable that we leave without a deal; is that what Davis is saying? May seems to be walking back on this but we'll see. It is an admission that we have to compromise with the EU to get a deal - there is no choice. Their wish list - no list of demands - is long. They have already out played May in status of EU migrants. Resolve it or no negotiations. 1-0 to the EU. Dept for Brexit=Amateurs!!
The UK has threatened EU migrant status to be put in doubt after "black/backward wednesday", or whatever we should call it. That was a bit stoopid of the brexiteers.
Now the EU is saying "can you take back all that bollcks UK and secure migrant rights please. Otherwise no negotiations. Your move, amateurs!"
The hot air and bravado is soon to be exposed for what it is. Singing Rule Britannia won't help.
Or perhaps you want to blame the EU for Davis being a lightweight moron?
I think even the majority of Remainers on here wish you would stop talking crap, probably best examples by the fact that JawKnee said you were the only one talking sense.
Funny how appalled you were at first when you tried to use it as a guilt trip on here. Now we now what happened you've spun it right around and making out it's a smart move on their part to use them !
Your ability to talk ball locks still knows no bounds.
Those foreigners have really got it in for you haven't they?
don'tbesilly said:
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
skahigh said:
Told you so! I can imagine the hysteria from ///ajd getting worse tomorrow, 'Wonderful Wednesday', I hope he's got some Valium or Prozac to hand!
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