45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)

TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED
Author
Discussion

Byker28i

61,764 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Biden has issued a statement on ACB confirmation


The rushed and unprecedented confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett as Associate Justice to the Supreme Court, in the middle of an ongoing election, should be a stark reminder to every American that your vote matters.

Just a few days after Election Day next week, the Supreme Court will hear the case on the Affordable Care Act. While panicked and erratic in mishandling the pandemic, Donald Trump has been crystal clear on one thing — for the past four years, and again just last night on 60 Minutes — he wants to tear down the Affordable Care Act in its entirety and take away your health care and protections for pre-existing conditions.

This goal — the goal of the Republican Party for ten years — was a litmus test in selecting this nominee, regardless of the damage done to the U.S. Senate, to Americans’ faith in the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, and to our democracy, and regardless of how the Affordable Care Act has protected hundreds of millions of people before and during the pandemic.

But we will not give up. If you want to protect your health care, if you want your voice to be heard in Washington, if you want to say no, this abuse of power doesn’t represent you — then turn out and vote.

Vote for a president, for Members of Congress, and candidates up and down the ticket who actually have a plan for health care, and who will build on the Affordable Care Act to expand coverage, bring down costs, and give you more choices.

Vote to protect the fundamental idea that health care is a right, not a privilege.

And vote for the legacy of the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She was proof that courage, conviction, and moral clarity can change not just the law, but also the world. Let us continue to be voices for justice in her name.

Vote.
https://joebiden.com/2020/10/26/the-supreme-court-...

Byker28i

61,764 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Twitter again had to block trumps lies on mail in voting
“Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about how to participate in an election or another civic process.”

Byker28i

61,764 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
You know how trump always says out loud what he's thinking...


During his rallyyesterdayin Pennsylvania, Trump pointed to some pickup trucks at his rally and said, "Nice trucks. You think I could hop into one of them and drive it away? I'd love to do it. Just drive the hell out of here. Just get the hell out of this. I had such a good life."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1320763886241488896


There's the next Biden/Lincoln project ad right there


I wonder if he now knows they run on diesel...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trucking-sho...

Stratovarious

7,802 posts

180 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
This just popped up on my YT feed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oKYK1MPwhM

Still makes more sense than anything the real Trump actually said ...

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
The way their supreme court works is just so nuts.

Derek Smith

45,904 posts

250 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Jader1973 said:
To be fair the news on the 4th will be dominated by coverage of him holed up in the White House refusing to accept the election outcome.

And things will go downhill from there.
It will not be his fault. His advisors will say that he won by a landslide, and the adjective biggest will be used a number of times.

Gameface

16,565 posts

79 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
vonuber said:
The way their supreme court works is just so nuts.
Joke isn't it. Such hypocrisy as well.

stevesingo

4,861 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Political appointees to a supreme courts are just a means of undermining democracy. A party which has only a slim chance of getting in load the court so any legislation enacted by the incumbent party can be challenged and overturned. The unelected party make the law.

The US needs to sort this st out, the constitution is fundamentally flawed. The long term risk is disenfranchisement of the electorate, how can they ever believe they can make a difference?

The big question for the Dems is, if they win, will they do the right thing and attempt to change the constitution, or just up the numbers of the supreme court and load the new vacancies with left leaning judges.

Sadly, I feel they will opt for the latter.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Surely they would need the SCOTUS majority in order to do that, no?

Besides which, packing the SCOTUS after the st the GOP have pulled to weight it in their favour is only levelling the playing field.

Bill

53,174 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
stevesingo said:
Political appointees to a supreme courts are just a means of undermining democracy. A party which has only a slim chance of getting in load the court so any legislation enacted by the incumbent party can be challenged and overturned. The unelected party make the law.

The US needs to sort this st out, the constitution is fundamentally flawed. The long term risk is disenfranchisement of the electorate, how can they ever believe they can make a difference?

The big question for the Dems is, if they win, will they do the right thing and attempt to change the constitution, or just up the numbers of the supreme court and load the new vacancies with left leaning judges.

Sadly, I feel they will opt for the latter.
I don't think they have a choice. They can't change the system while the SC will overturn anything they do.



anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
The Dems wouldn't dare open the constitution for changes. Can of worms.

Electro1980

8,485 posts

141 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
stevesingo said:
Political appointees to a supreme courts are just a means of undermining democracy. A party which has only a slim chance of getting in load the court so any legislation enacted by the incumbent party can be challenged and overturned. The unelected party make the law.

The US needs to sort this st out, the constitution is fundamentally flawed. The long term risk is disenfranchisement of the electorate, how can they ever believe they can make a difference?

The big question for the Dems is, if they win, will they do the right thing and attempt to change the constitution, or just up the numbers of the supreme court and load the new vacancies with left leaning judges.

Sadly, I feel they will opt for the latter.
In order to change the constitution they will need a 2/3rds majority in the senate and the Supreme Court to agree (otherwise they will just strike down any change as unconstitutional). They won’t get either of these, so the chances of the constitution being changed is zero. There is three reasons for this
1) it is in the Republicans interest not to
2) politics in the US is so divided at the moment that bipartisan agreement on anything but the most uncontroversial issues is impossible
3) a large number of Republicans treat the constitution as a sacred text and the authors as almost infallible, saint like, people and the words as religious dogma to not be questioned, only interpreted.

What we are seeing in the US is how dictatorships and religions start.

Blackpuddin

16,723 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Electro1980 said:
3) a large number of Republicans treat the constitution as a sacred text and the authors as almost infallible, saint like, people and the words as religious dogma to not be questioned, only interpreted.

What we are seeing in the US is how dictatorships and religions start.
Yep, unfortunately the population at large has been totally conditioned into not just accepting but worshipping the constitution's Bible-like status. If it's left alone in the corner and not bothered too much it's a benign presence but as soon as someone comes along to abuse it It becomes the biggest danger facing the country.

Gameface

16,565 posts

79 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
In today's world, I wouldn't wipe my arse on it.

Like religious texts, it's outdated nonsense.

rscott

14,858 posts

193 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Nothing in the US constitution states how many judges should comprise the Supreme Court, so they don't need to amend the constitution to change that number.

It's previously been changed several times and FDR even tried to pass a bill which required all judges over 70 to be asked to resign and if they didn't, a younger judge would be appointed to serve alongside them.
https://www.history.com/news/supreme-court-justice...

fatbutt

2,718 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
As has been previously pointed out, the US isn't a democracy. Never was in the truest sense of the term. Now its essentially a Oligarchy in everything except name. And its not Trump who made it that way, he just has brought it into focus in the eyes of the general public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

"In a 2015 interview, former President Jimmy Carter stated that the United States is now "an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery" due to the Citizens United v. FEC ruling which effectively removed limits on donations to political candidates. Wall Street spent a record $2 billion trying to influence the 2016 United States presidential election"

Edited by fatbutt on Tuesday 27th October 10:02

Blackpuddin

16,723 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Stratovarious said:
Also, I never realised Andy Parsons was so knowledgeable.
Have a laugh

Blackpuddin

16,723 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
fatbutt said:
Wall Street spent a record $2 billion trying to influence the 2016 United States presidential election
It's gone way, way beyond that this time round.

Murph7355

37,945 posts

258 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Electro1980 said:
...

What we are seeing in the US is how dictatorships and religions start.
Or perhaps end...

Blackpuddin said:
fatbutt said:
Wall Street spent a record $2 billion trying to influence the 2016 United States presidential election
It's gone way, way beyond that this time round.
Is that more or less than the Russians? And which way were Wall Stski trying to influence it?

Byker28i

61,764 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th October 2020
quotequote all
Blackpuddin said:
fatbutt said:
Wall Street spent a record $2 billion trying to influence the 2016 United States presidential election
It's gone way, way beyond that this time round.
Sheldon Adelsondonated $183 million to Republican candidates and committees
Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein donated $65 million to Republicans

Bloomberg is in for over $100m to the Dems

https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/big...
TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED