Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/malaysia-airlines-mh370-...

interesting about the 'However, the missing plane was carrying four emergency locater transmitters (ELTs) which transmit the aircraft's location to an emergency satellite in case of a crash or contact with water, the CNN reported.
Experts are puzzled over why the ELTs did not activate, and if they did, why the satellite had failed to pick up their signals.'

i think the whole thing smacks of incompetence.


B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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The Spruce goose said:
Article suggests the underwater search is now 80% complete. Does beg the question of what they plan to do next. We can safely assume there will be no more black box pings. They're completely in the dark.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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B17NNS said:
Article suggests the underwater search is now 80% complete. Does beg the question of what they plan to do next. We can safely assume there will be no more black box pings. They're completely in the dark.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/25/mh370-nearly-completed-underwater-search-fails-to-find-any-signs

95% here, looks like it could be a long time..

maybe hijacked by terrorists made demands Malaysia let plane disappear/bomb up on land. tries to cover up by total black out, it just feels so

rolando

2,211 posts

157 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Royal Navy withdraws HMS Tireless from search for MH370

Plymouth-based submarine HMS Tireless is stood down as the Australian command admits there is "no prospect" of detecting further black box "pings"

Vipers

32,970 posts

230 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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If nothing else, they need to upgrade the locating devices, suggestion, the transponders on North Sea and Norweigian offshore diving bells are passive, and only ping when interrogated.

But unless interrogated, the battery will last 18 months, none of this 30 days = dead batteries.




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redtwin

7,518 posts

184 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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B17NNS said:
I'd have booked 9am flights personally for a 10am 'arrival'. Allow for the last stragglers to arrive plus visitors.
It was reported they booked those particular flights they did as they were bound for the west coast and as such would have had a heavier fuel load. Were there long distance flights scheduled for 9am?.

In any case, even if there was no-one in the towers, the devastating effect would have been the same. These days it is rare that you hear of the number of people that died whenever the WTC attacks are mentioned.


B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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redtwin said:
It was reported they booked those particular flights they did as they were bound for the west coast and as such would have had a heavier fuel load. Were there long distance flights scheduled for 9am?.
Absolutely. They wanted their missiles to be as full of explosives as possible. I'm sure long haul flights leave the East coast at all times of day however.

Slartifartfast

2,141 posts

234 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Vipers said:
If nothing else, they need to upgrade the locating devices, suggestion, the transponders on North Sea and Norweigian offshore diving bells are passive, and only ping when interrogated.

But unless interrogated, the battery will last 18 months, none of this 30 days = dead batteries.
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But no more help if you don't know where to look.

Vipers

32,970 posts

230 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Slartifartfast said:
Vipers said:
If nothing else, they need to upgrade the locating devices, suggestion, the transponders on North Sea and Norweigian offshore diving bells are passive, and only ping when interrogated.

But unless interrogated, the battery will last 18 months, none of this 30 days = dead batteries.
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But no more help if you don't know where to look.
Absolutely right, and in this case, I think they are grasping at straws.




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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Will it ever be found?

Thankyou4calling

10,647 posts

175 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
Have the investigations into the private lives of the Captain and co-pilot unearthed anything which might point toward a reason for either deliberately crashing the plane? For instance had either recently had a relationship break up or had they amassed significant debts?
Does anybody know?

Thankyou4calling

10,647 posts

175 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
Have the investigations into the private lives of the Captain and co-pilot unearthed anything which might point toward a reason for either deliberately crashing the plane? For instance had either recently had a relationship break up or had they amassed significant debts?
Does anybody know?

lamboman100

1,445 posts

123 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
lamboman100 said:
ATTAK Z said:
Mike215 said:
I will tell you what happened to the plane. It was deliberately blown up to prevent its two MUSLIM PILOTS from making a suicide run on Petronas Twin Towers in downtown Kuala Lumpur. How did the the authorities know it was a suicide run? Because the Muslim pilots were following the actions of the four Muslim pilots in the 911 attacks: first, cut off all verbal communication; two, disable the tracking electronics; and three, change course without permission Once they changed course the authorities had only 20 or so minutes before the plane would hit the towers so they had to act fast and blow it up. The wreckage was probably collected as soon as possible.
These stories that the plane flew for thousands of miles with everybody dead was fiction just as the stories now that it landed somewhere. It cannot be admitted that the plane was deliberately destroyed.
I really think this is a plausible and believable scenario ... can anyone explain why this could NOT have happened ?
There are Chinese radar and British satellite traces showing the plane flying back towards Malaysia, away from Malaysia, and then ending in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It is a big sea with a small plane in it, which will take time to find. Don't forget, people lose money down the back of their sofa at home and never find it.
Well Lamboman, your response begs the question 'do you really believe the information issued (well after the disappearance) by any government's secret radar ?'
The Chiness radar traces were widely known and shown within hours and days of the event. The British satellite traces took weeks to emerge because of the sparse dataset that needed analysing. A stockmarket-listed company, even one like Inmarsat that has close government connections, is unlikely to get involved in any wild international conspiracies. It would just stay zipped and not risk harming its worldwide public reputation.

The most-probable explanation here, at this stage, is still one where the pilot(s) took over the plane and flew it into the middle of nowhere on purpose or by accident for suicide, terror, political-activism or theft reasons.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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daddy cool said:
Steffan said:
From memory there was a Colombian plane that smashed to pieces in the mountains and was not found for over 20 years.
Do you mean "Stardust" in 1947? That was, and still is, a story im fascinated by. The plane actually hit the top of a mountain and sunk into the snow and ice. It was 50 years before the wreckage worked its way down the mountain inside a glacier, much of it (and some parts of the humans) very well preserved, and was then found thawed out.
But while that 50 year old mystery was solved, the final piece isnt - why was the word "STENDEC" repeatedly transmitted in the moments before the crash?

If you wanted to read up about this story, why not listen to Willie Nelson performing his classic song "Stadust" while you do? Its nothing to do with the plane, but i like to pretend it is...
Another one.
My daughter lives in a place called Gladstone in Queensland, near there is Kroombit Tops National Park. An American Liberator bomber crashed there in February 1945, the wreckage wasn't found until August 1994, it's now protected and can be visited.

http://www.ozatwar.com/ozcrashes/qld89.htm

Edited by Norfolkit on Saturday 26th April 18:49

daddy cool

4,006 posts

231 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Cheers - interesting stuff

V8Ford

2,675 posts

168 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Some serious conspiracy BS going on in here. The pilots were Muslims, whoopee st. There are probably thousands of Muslim airline pilots, it's a wonder we aren't all dead already eh? As for going and clearing up the debris, do we honestly think they turned up in a load of boats and meticulously cleaned up all the debris from an aircraft that is supposed to have been blown into thousands of pieces? I mean, could it not have been dragged into the belly of a secret government UFO by an experimental tractor beam

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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V8Ford said:
Some serious conspiracy BS going on in here. The pilots were Muslims, whoopee st. There are probably thousands of Muslim airline pilots, it's a wonder we aren't all dead already eh? As for going and clearing up the debris, do we honestly think they turned up in a load of boats and meticulously cleaned up all the debris from an aircraft that is supposed to have been blown into thousands of pieces? I mean, could it not have been dragged into the belly of a secret government UFO by an experimental tractor beam
Exactly and it's all to cover up what we know to be the real truth


Leithen

11,203 posts

269 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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I fear that the families will have to wait several years until someone such as Bob Ballard discovers the wreckage at some absurd depth. Inevitably James Cameron will then duplicate the discovery and film the expedition in 3D.

Vipers

32,970 posts

230 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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My money is on that when and if they find it, it will be nowhere where they are currently looking.




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B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Vipers said:
My money is on that when and if they find it, it will be nowhere where they are currently looking.
scratchchin