North Korea - how serious should we take them?
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MikeT66 said:
Tyre Smoke said:
But why can't he close his mouth? Now I've seen that, I can't unsee it! 
The only time I've known someone like that is a chap I worked with who was very obese - had a lot of problems breathing... or perhaps it's to narrow the chance of missing unexpected flying pie.
Middle image, safe for work stuff on the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20493572
North Korea leader Kim Jong Un said his country’s hard-won nuclear weapons were a solid security guarantee and a “reliable, effective” deterrent that could prevent a second Korean War, state media has reported.
Mr Kim said in his speech on Monday his country has tried to become “a nuclear state” with “an absolute might” to prevent another war and that it has now built such a deterrent, according to the Korean Central News Agency.
“Now, we’ve changed to a country which can defend itself reliably and unwaveringly against high-intensity pressures and military threats and blackmailing by imperialistic reactionaries and hostile forces,” he said.
“There won’t be any war on this land again and our national security and future will be guaranteed firmly and permanently because of our reliable, effective self-defensive nuclear deterrent.”
His speech followed recent remarks by both North Korean and US officials suggesting they were reluctant to engage in a new round of diplomacy on the North’s nuclear program anytime soon.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had said President Donald Trump would only want to engage with Mr Kim if there were real prospects of progress.
Mr Kim’s sister and senior ruling party official, Kim Yo Jong, said a new summit would be “unpractical” for North Korea and that Pyongyang will not gift Mr Trump a high-level meeting that he can boast as a foreign policy achievement.
Kim Jong Un and Mr Trump met three times since Mr Kim in 2018 abruptly reached out to Washington and Seoul for talks after expressing his intent to deal away his advancing nuclear arsenals.
Many experts were sceptical of Mr Kim’s disarmament commitment and said he only aimed to weaken US-led sanctions and perfect his nuclear program.
The nuclear diplomacy remains largely stalled since a second meeting in February 2019 in Vietnam collapsed without reaching any agreement because Mr Trump rejected Mr Kim’s proposal to get extensive sanctions relief in return for a limited denuclearisation step.
Mr Kim entered this year with a vow to bolster his nuclear program and threatened to unveil a new “strategic” weapon.
He also said he would no longer be bound by a self-imposed moratorium on nuclear and long-range missile tests.
Mr Kim has not performed such high-profile weapons tests, which some analysts say could completely derail diplomacy with the US.
Mr Kim said in his speech on Monday his country has tried to become “a nuclear state” with “an absolute might” to prevent another war and that it has now built such a deterrent, according to the Korean Central News Agency.
“Now, we’ve changed to a country which can defend itself reliably and unwaveringly against high-intensity pressures and military threats and blackmailing by imperialistic reactionaries and hostile forces,” he said.
“There won’t be any war on this land again and our national security and future will be guaranteed firmly and permanently because of our reliable, effective self-defensive nuclear deterrent.”
His speech followed recent remarks by both North Korean and US officials suggesting they were reluctant to engage in a new round of diplomacy on the North’s nuclear program anytime soon.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had said President Donald Trump would only want to engage with Mr Kim if there were real prospects of progress.
Mr Kim’s sister and senior ruling party official, Kim Yo Jong, said a new summit would be “unpractical” for North Korea and that Pyongyang will not gift Mr Trump a high-level meeting that he can boast as a foreign policy achievement.
Kim Jong Un and Mr Trump met three times since Mr Kim in 2018 abruptly reached out to Washington and Seoul for talks after expressing his intent to deal away his advancing nuclear arsenals.
Many experts were sceptical of Mr Kim’s disarmament commitment and said he only aimed to weaken US-led sanctions and perfect his nuclear program.
The nuclear diplomacy remains largely stalled since a second meeting in February 2019 in Vietnam collapsed without reaching any agreement because Mr Trump rejected Mr Kim’s proposal to get extensive sanctions relief in return for a limited denuclearisation step.
Mr Kim entered this year with a vow to bolster his nuclear program and threatened to unveil a new “strategic” weapon.
He also said he would no longer be bound by a self-imposed moratorium on nuclear and long-range missile tests.
Mr Kim has not performed such high-profile weapons tests, which some analysts say could completely derail diplomacy with the US.
Anyone interested in N Korea.
There’s a great podcast about dictators I’ve been listening to
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/real-dictato...
Three episodes about Kim Jong il and Stalin was covered earlier.
Some great insight and accounts into N Korean history and how they got to where they are today.
There’s a great podcast about dictators I’ve been listening to
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/real-dictato...
Three episodes about Kim Jong il and Stalin was covered earlier.
Some great insight and accounts into N Korean history and how they got to where they are today.
robinessex said:
North Korea has 1.2 million 'soldiers', and 6 million reservists. Can you imagine equipping that lot with weapons and ammo, plus transport, plus the logistics of supplying them all? Mind you, they do seem to have about 100,000 generals to organize it. What could possibly go wrong?
Just think of all those note books and pencils needed......It’s not looking good for Kim.
My friend who has done a few bits over there for him, including a renovation on an old inter city 125 that Kim had kitted out with hot tubs and 3g with flat screen tv’s etc..... has been in touch to say he’s been ill for a while.
My friend is in the middle of his latest project for Kim, this being a hybrid Super Nintendo system that plays an updated version of Super Mario. He doesn’t know if he’s going to get a chance to finish it due to Kim’s poor health. The Mario character has been replaced with a character similar to Kim and when you jump on things to squash them they have been changed to characters that represent other world leaders and some of them even his own people.
Some of the end levels have been changed so that the boss you fight against is a old uncle of Kim’s that he had killed a while ago and instead of throwing turtle shells at them you have the option of a anti aircraft gun or a nuke.
Apparently Nintendo have allowed this after hearing that Sega has been approached so that Kim could adapt Sonic the hedgehog in to a space race game with Dr Sputnik and instead of collecting gold rings you collect vouchers that can be exchanged for state credits. Credits buy you such things as old spice, Betamax video players and Hillman Hunters.
My friend who has done a few bits over there for him, including a renovation on an old inter city 125 that Kim had kitted out with hot tubs and 3g with flat screen tv’s etc..... has been in touch to say he’s been ill for a while.
My friend is in the middle of his latest project for Kim, this being a hybrid Super Nintendo system that plays an updated version of Super Mario. He doesn’t know if he’s going to get a chance to finish it due to Kim’s poor health. The Mario character has been replaced with a character similar to Kim and when you jump on things to squash them they have been changed to characters that represent other world leaders and some of them even his own people.
Some of the end levels have been changed so that the boss you fight against is a old uncle of Kim’s that he had killed a while ago and instead of throwing turtle shells at them you have the option of a anti aircraft gun or a nuke.
Apparently Nintendo have allowed this after hearing that Sega has been approached so that Kim could adapt Sonic the hedgehog in to a space race game with Dr Sputnik and instead of collecting gold rings you collect vouchers that can be exchanged for state credits. Credits buy you such things as old spice, Betamax video players and Hillman Hunters.
CoolHands said:
Was Kim dead in the end or not after all that stuff at beginning of corona? Anyone seen him?
Allegedly he suffered some kind of heart 'event' and had surgery, but so much of what comes out of NK is b
ks so who knows.robinessex said:
North Korea has 1.2 million 'soldiers', and 6 million reservists. Can you imagine equipping that lot with weapons and ammo, plus transport, plus the logistics of supplying them all? Mind you, they do seem to have about 100,000 generals to organize it. What could possibly go wrong?
The prosaic answer is that they would struggle to actually supply them with food in any kind of warfighting situation, never mind manoeuvre or fight effectively; never mind the quality, feel the width. The US has MLRS units in RoK for very sensible reasons.hidetheelephants said:
CoolHands said:
Was Kim dead in the end or not after all that stuff at beginning of corona? Anyone seen him?
Allegedly he suffered some kind of heart 'event' and had surgery, but so much of what comes out of NK is bks so who knows.robinessex said:
North Korea has 1.2 million 'soldiers', and 6 million reservists. Can you imagine equipping that lot with weapons and ammo, plus transport, plus the logistics of supplying them all? Mind you, they do seem to have about 100,000 generals to organize it. What could possibly go wrong?
The prosaic answer is that they would struggle to actually supply them with food in any kind of warfighting situation, never mind manoeuvre or fight effectively; never mind the quality, feel the width. The US has MLRS units in RoK for very sensible reasons.Over the border - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU0DNCV22dU
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