45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[Halb]

Digger said:

On the other hand, Kim is there to request a prisoner be pardoned, and at first glance appears to have a valid case.

If that is what it takes . . .

you'll get butt implants?

[SpeckledJim]

Eric Mc said:

Halmyre said:

Eric Mc said:

Pretty disrespectful by the paper, in my opinion.

??? She's a Kardashian - there's nothing you can say or do to disrespect them that they haven't already said or done themselves.

On this issue, she is pursuing what seems like a worthy cause. I couldn't care less what else she gets up to.

It's an important part of our democracy and free press that ridiculous people be mocked. And mocked some more.

That means if you spend 99.5% of your time being ridiculous, you won't be taken very seriously on the 0.5% of your time when you have a point.

See Trump for details.

Whoever sent Kim Kardashian to do their pleading should have sent someone a lot less ridiculous.

[Digger]

SpeckledJim said:

Eric Mc said:

Halmyre said:

Eric Mc said:

Pretty disrespectful by the paper, in my opinion.

??? She's a Kardashian - there's nothing you can say or do to disrespect them that they haven't already said or done themselves.

On this issue, she is pursuing what seems like a worthy cause. I couldn't care less what else she gets up to.

It's an important part of our democracy and free press that ridiculous people be mocked. And mocked some more.

That means if you spend 99.5% of your time being ridiculous, you won't be taken very seriously on the 0.5% of your time when you have a point.

See Trump for details.

Whoever sent Kim Kardashian to do their pleading should have sent someone a lot less ridiculous.

... but then we would never hear about. Swings and roundabouts.

[kowalski655]

Digger said:

On the other hand, Kim is there to request a prisoner be pardoned, and at first glance appears to have a valid case.

If that is what it takes . . .

Obama turned down the woman KK is pleading for 3 times, so of course Trump will pardon her.
Wonder if he tried to grab Kim by the pussy?

[Eric Mc]

SpeckledJim said:

It's an important part of our democracy and free press that ridiculous people be mocked. And mocked some more.

That means if you spend 99.5% of your time being ridiculous, you won't be taken very seriously on the 0.5% of your time when you have a point.

See Trump for details.

Whoever sent Kim Kardashian to do their pleading should have sent someone a lot less ridiculous.

I take each case on its merits. There are a lot of time ridiculing Kim Kardashian may be appropriate. On this occasion, I don't think so.

Just my opinion. You can shoot it down if you want.

[arfursleep]

Digger said:

On the other hand, Kim is there to request a prisoner be pardoned, and at first glance appears to have a valid case.

If that is what it takes . . .

Respect to her for helping out on a worthy cause but I wonder if he's going to be taking personal meetings with other people with single issue problems/requests like gun control reform, environmental damage, renewable energy, clean water in Flint, repairs in Peurto Rico etc? Of course, they don't have Kanye to reach out for them and Trump doesn't think it'll look good to his supporters.

as an aside, he doesn't like standing for photos does he?

[Eric Mc]

It's Trump's motives I'm always more suspect of than others.

[Escapegoat]

Well, Kanye Kardashian-West has promised to run in 2024.

Most people thought it was just more fruit-loopiness, but after this and the recent Trump-West tweet-fest, maybe not!

[Gameface]

SpeckledJim said:

Eric Mc said:

Pretty disrespectful by the paper, in my opinion.

Eric and Kim, sitting in a tree...

I laughed too much at that.

I'm such a child.

[Gameface]

Eric Mc said:

Halmyre said:

Eric Mc said:

Pretty disrespectful by the paper, in my opinion.

??? She's a Kardashian - there's nothing you can say or do to disrespect them that they haven't already said or done themselves.

On this issue, she is pursuing what seems like a worthy cause. I couldn't care less what else she gets up to.

He won't be meeting any other people fighting possible miscarriages of justice will he.

It's just a photo op for both of them.... Celebrity backslapping.

I can't think of two people who deserve less credit for their entire lives, than those two.

[Old Man Fred]

coyft said:

Old Man Fred said:

chrispmartha said:

AreOut said:

wait this really happened

I’m not sure what’s real anymore

Quick spoiler, a lot has already come out of it, i lost count of the number of times it has been posted that people are already in jail for this, not to mention the charges, guilty pleas and indictments

One person who had no connection to the Trump campaign jailed for 30 days. Facts matter.

I agree facts matter. This fact has come from the Guardian "A federal judge in Washington sentenced Alex van der Zwaan, a 33-year-old lawyer who previously worked with Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager. He was also ordered to pay a $20,000 fine."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/03/al...

Do you consider someone who worked with Trumps campaign manager to have "no connection to Trump" then?

I notice you didn't post evidence as to where your quote(?) came from. Is that because it is one of the looney sites you frequent? if not, please provide the link where it came from.

back at you...

ETA i do agree my use of the word "people" was wrong though

[Gameface]

coyft said:

I’ll give you a chance to have another think before I respond. I haven’t quoted your post as I’m feeling charitable.

With the stuff you come out with...

Kindred spirit with Trump.

[IJB1959]

Escapegoat said:

Well, Kanye Kardashian-West has promised to run in 2024.

Most people thought it was just more fruit-loopiness, but after this and the recent Trump-West tweet-fest, maybe not!

Looks like after seeing Trump as POTUS, any old fool now thinks they'll have a go at it too.

[Old Man Fred]

coyft said:

I’ll give you a chance to have another think before I respond. I haven’t quoted your post as I’m feeling charitable.

Please post away. If i have posted something wrong i don't mind admitting it, as i just have, i don't get defensive...

[Old Man Fred]

coyft said:

Old Man Fred said:

coyft said:

I’ll give you a chance to have another think before I respond. I haven’t quoted your post as I’m feeling charitable.

Please post away. If i have posted something wrong i don't mind admitting it, as i just have, i don't get defensive...

I think you just misread the article. Anyway as I said Alex van der Zwaan had no association with Trump or the Trump campaign.

You genuinely think that someone that worked with Trumps campaign manager had "no association with the Trump campaign"??

That kind of thinking is staggering...

[Escapegoat]

coyft said:

I think you just misread the article. Anyway as I said Alex van der Zwaan had no association with Trump or the Trump campaign.

As you're a clear seeker of facts, one has to wonder why you give Trump a pass on telling lies?

[Old Man Fred]

coyft said:

Old Man Fred said:

coyft said:

Old Man Fred said:

coyft said:

I’ll give you a chance to have another think before I respond. I haven’t quoted your post as I’m feeling charitable.

Please post away. If i have posted something wrong i don't mind admitting it, as i just have, i don't get defensive...

I think you just misread the article. Anyway as I said Alex van der Zwaan had no association with Trump or the Trump campaign.

You genuinely think that someone that worked with Trumps campaign manager had "no association with the Trump campaign"??

That kind of thinking is staggering...

FFS.

The last time he worked with Manafort was 2011. How does that connect him to the Trump campaign?

OK, i will try one last time but i fear this is going to fall on deaf ears
Facts matter - I don't know where you got 2011 from, did you make it up
"Van der Zwaan was drawn into the Trump-Russia investigation by actions he took in 2012. "
This is from a different website https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/russia-p...
I presume you know that Trump was considering running for president in 2012 as well.

[Byker28i]

coyft said:

FFS.

The last time he worked with Manafort was 2011. How does that connect him to the Trump campaign?

Are you ignoring the work he did for him then in 2016 based on the Ukraine Campaign? As late as September 2016 according to the court documents
He actually was jailed for lying to the FBI over his work with Mannafort and Rick Gates and a business associate based in Ukraine in September 2016, while the Trump campaign operation was in full swing.

Gates and Zwann worked plea deals, Zwann so good he got 30 days in jail rather than a possible 5 years

[Byker28i]

Of course thats ignoring that he's married to the daughter of the Russian billionaire German Khan, co-founder and co-owner of Alfa Group, whos servers a trump tower server was in communication with, a possible route for data used in targeting voters by both team trump and the russian social media teams.

He only got 30 days because he had useful information to give...

[Gameface]

coyft said:

With Trump my default position is to fact check anything he says.

Going by your knowledge of Van der Zwaan, I'd be checking your own facts, as well as Trumps.