The economic consequences of Brexit
Poll: The economic consequences of Brexit
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Discussion
wc98 said:
yep, good news from actual "experts" . the type that actually build things, create real wealth etc. the people still moaning about brexit do not actually know what justifies the term "expert" to most people.people that design, build, manufacture and manage those types of operations are experts. a one man band that can rebuild mercedes auto boxes to the equivalent standard they left the factory is an expert.
mouthy academics that do f
k all but talk and clowns with ppe degrees are not experts in anything. apart from bullst and throwing the toys out the pram when the thick bigoted general population call them on aforementioned bullst. fk the lot of them 
Good news indeed.... but I do wish the Brexiters would stop mosning about the remainers moaning. It is a little tiresome now..... mouthy academics that do f
k all but talk and clowns with ppe degrees are not experts in anything. apart from bullst and throwing the toys out the pram when the thick bigoted general population call them on aforementioned bullst. fk the lot of them 
JawKnee said:
We will remain full members of the EU for at least the next 2 and a half years. No wonder Nissan decided what they have. No tariffs at all whilst in the EU.
The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Yes, 'cos as has been stated as the bleeding obvious, major international vehicle manufacturing companies don't plan infrastructure further out than 2 and a bit years. The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Let's take the hurt Brexit loser approach and ignore / minimise what has actually happened to the positive and bring in pure hypotheses driven by a personal agenda, and then restate a flawed and unsubstantiated opinion as the final line.
MarshPhantom said:
don4l said:
Hosenbugler said:
steveT350C said:
BREAKING: Economic growth = 0.5% in the three months since EU referendum vote...
Despite Brexit
Was just about to post. Exceeds expectations, 0.3% predicted. Despite Brexit
Sharp contrast to the claims of project fear , 0.1% or even into a negative figure, according to them if we had the temerity to vote to leave the EU. More evidence of the hysterical nonsense they shouted.
Liars.
t about a good many things, which made it very difficult to make a choice either way. What cracks me up is that Cameron nailed his colours to the'Remain' mast meaning vast swathes of people who wouldn't normally widdle on the man if he spontaneously combusted found themselves suffering immensee cognitive dissonance when they had to agree with him. LOL.
SeeFive said:
JawKnee said:
We will remain full members of the EU for at least the next 2 and a half years. No wonder Nissan decided what they have. No tariffs at all whilst in the EU.
The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Yes, 'cos as has been stated as the bleeding obvious, major international vehicle manufacturing companies don't plan infrastructure further out than 2 and a bit years. The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Let's take the hurt Brexit loser approach and ignore / minimise what has actually happened to the positive and bring in pure hypotheses driven by a personal agenda, and then restate a flawed and unsubstantiated opinion as the final line.
Dangerous precedent to set.
Trophy Husband said:
bmw535i said:
Trophy Husband said:
bmw535i said:
Trophy Husband said:
Trying to decipher the truth from the lies like most other people. Running my business with all this in the background. Worrying about the next 20 years and how this will affect my now 6 year old and 4 year old sons. Reading what you quote above regarding Mr Azevedo's comments prior to the leave vote, it seems that he has changed his stance. Why so is my question. Next question to those that voted leave. What convinced you that leave was best?
Fewer immigrants 
Am I doing this right?
bmw535i said:
WinstonWolf said:
It's a pretty st news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it 
I love how he disappears for a few days and then slides back in. t news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it Maybe we shouldn't joke, the "national suicide" may have started.......
WinstonWolf said:
bmw535i said:
WinstonWolf said:
It's a pretty st news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it
I love how he disappears for a few days and then slides back in. t news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it Maybe we shouldn't joke, the "national suicide" may have started.......
mike9009 said:
don4l said:
mike9009 said:
Why are we bothering to negotiate? I thought we voted out of the EU and single market?
The peoples voice was rather clear on that - well 52% anyway.
Mike
52% was more than a majority when I studied maths.The peoples voice was rather clear on that - well 52% anyway.
Mike
Are you saying that my maths teacher lied to me?
50.0000001% was all that was needed for a victory.
We got more than a million times than what was necessary.
If you had lost by only one vote, then you would have lost.
Fortunately, you lost by a margin that was a million times bigger than necessary.
Come the 15th March 2019, we will be free of the shackles of the socialist idiots who run the EU.
This is a cause for great celebration and national pride.
Sadly, most of the people who voted Remain don't seem to have any sense of National Pride.
So, Mike9009, I will ask you a simple question.
Tell us why you think that Great britain is a good country to live in?
If you cannot answer this question with any degree of enthusiasm, then you will just confirm my view that most Remainers are actually traitors.
The floor is yours...
You have managed to find a connection between me asking why we are bothering to negotiate on the single market when the majority of people rejected the single market, and that I am a traitor to the UK. Very bizarre?
My honest opinion is that to continue to have a good (or better) quality of life in the UK, the country needs to have a good economic strategy to support that objective. To achieve that objective, I felt remaining in the EU was the best option. (Personally, the result will hopefully have little financial consequence for me, as my job is not reliant on EU trade and most investments I have are in global equities and FTSE100).
Therefore, because of your bigotry, you assume this makes me a traitor and not have any national pride? I 'could' also accuse you of being a traitor for damaging the economic prospects of the UK and thus the quality of life (long term) of the British people. But I will not challenge you to this - or expect a reply because I can respect your decision and POV. (...and as yet this political/ economic 'experiment' has yet to play out.....)
It is good to have a debate - but I do find your posts overly personal and disrespectful.
Mike
PS How is your import/ export business going? (genuinely interested if you have been impacted by price rises and whether business has picked up?)
Edited by mike9009 on Wednesday 26th October 19:41
Business is very good at the moment.
Imports are costing more, so I have had to put up prices. This isn't a problem as all of my competitors are in the same boat. Domestic customers are either understanding, or unaware of the price rises.
On the export front, it feels busier. However, we don't do a huge amount, so it will take some time to be certain.
However, for July-Sept the figures do look pretty convincing.
July-Sept 2016 Thirteen orders with a value of £20.7k
July-Sept 2015, Five orders with a total value of £10.09k.
So, although the figures are low, they do seem to be pretty convincing.
Our overall profit margins are up.
October isn't quite over yet, but it is already the best month that we have had in two years. September was also quite good.
JawKnee said:
WinstonWolf said:
bmw535i said:
WinstonWolf said:
It's a pretty st news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it
I love how he disappears for a few days and then slides back in. t news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it Maybe we shouldn't joke, the "national suicide" may have started.......
UK economy grows 0.5% in three months after Brexit vote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37786467
JawKnee said:
SeeFive said:
JawKnee said:
We will remain full members of the EU for at least the next 2 and a half years. No wonder Nissan decided what they have. No tariffs at all whilst in the EU.
The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Yes, 'cos as has been stated as the bleeding obvious, major international vehicle manufacturing companies don't plan infrastructure further out than 2 and a bit years. The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Let's take the hurt Brexit loser approach and ignore / minimise what has actually happened to the positive and bring in pure hypotheses driven by a personal agenda, and then restate a flawed and unsubstantiated opinion as the final line.
Dangerous precedent to set.
You don't think that Nissan (and UK government) could possibly be thinking that with the facts and indicators that they have, success is likely, and payouts would be unnecessary? You truly believe that Nissan would plan to fail and have to start again quickly somewhere else?
Sounds like agenda driven opinion to me, minimising the positive news on pure hypotheses again. Only dangerous if they believe it will fail, which in case you don't know, very few companies as successful globally as Nissan actually do in business.
JawKnee said:
Good news? Economic growth is slowing and that's good news?
Economic growth is above what people like you and the "experts" predict d at this stage, yes that is good news. Economic growth slowed far more prior to the referendum.Again, negative spin.
Edit - not clear, economic growth has slowed many times for many different reasons over time (before the referendum). People want to blame it on one thing.
Edited by SeeFive on Thursday 27th October 13:52
JawKnee said:
Nissan wouldn't have thought twice about investing had we voted to remain. No problem at all. Now to keep them here the government will have to subsidise a foreign company if we don't get a favourable Brexit deal. Is this how our money should be spent post Brexit?
Dangerous precedent to set.
Haven't Nissan always received subsidies from the UK government though? Dangerous precedent to set.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17273462
http://www.thejournal.co.uk/business/business-news...
IIRC Nissan threatened to close the Sunderland plant in the 90's if the UK didn't join the Euro currency.
SeeFive said:
JawKnee said:
Good news? Economic growth is slowing and that's good news?
Economic growth is above what people like you and the "experts" predict d at this stage, yes that is good news. Economic growth slowed far more prior to the referendum.Again, negative spin.
Edit - not clear, economic growth has slowed many times for many different reasons over time (before the referendum). People want to blame it on one thing.
t. We will surely follow. Nothing to do with Brexit.If western economies were in any kind of decent shape interest rates would have been raised at least a couple of percentage points over half a decade ago. We're on life support.
JawKnee said:
WinstonWolf said:
bmw535i said:
WinstonWolf said:
It's a pretty st news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it
I love how he disappears for a few days and then slides back in. t news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it Maybe we shouldn't joke, the "national suicide" may have started.......
Banks are happy, I'm very happy, the signs are all there you just refuse to see them.
JawKnee said:
WinstonWolf said:
bmw535i said:
WinstonWolf said:
It's a pretty st news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it
I love how he disappears for a few days and then slides back in. t news day if you're a Remoaner, I bet ///ajd hates it Maybe we shouldn't joke, the "national suicide" may have started.......
Economic growth is absolutely on target. That's according to this forecast from the British Chambers of Commerce which assumed we wouldn't leave the EU.
SeeFive said:
JawKnee said:
SeeFive said:
JawKnee said:
We will remain full members of the EU for at least the next 2 and a half years. No wonder Nissan decided what they have. No tariffs at all whilst in the EU.
The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Yes, 'cos as has been stated as the bleeding obvious, major international vehicle manufacturing companies don't plan infrastructure further out than 2 and a bit years. The real test will be whether they continue to invest once we have left. Perhaps one of TMs assurances was that our primary aim in negotiations is to remain members of the single market.
In short. Being members of the EU is good for business. Leaving isn't.
Let's take the hurt Brexit loser approach and ignore / minimise what has actually happened to the positive and bring in pure hypotheses driven by a personal agenda, and then restate a flawed and unsubstantiated opinion as the final line.
Dangerous precedent to set.
You don't think that Nissan (and UK government) could possibly be thinking that with the facts and indicators that they have, success is likely, and payouts would be unnecessary? You truly believe that Nissan would plan to fail and have to start again quickly somewhere else?
Sounds like agenda driven opinion to me, minimising the positive news on pure hypotheses again. Only dangerous if they believe it will fail, which in case you don't know, very few companies as successful globally as Nissan actually do in business.
And why should Nissan get special treatment? Every other business in the UK will want exactly the same subsidies. Can we really afford that?
What a shambles this is turning into.
WinstonWolf said:
The economy out performed the predictions and is growing. We've all seen how wrong the 'experts' and their predictions are...
Banks are happy, I'm very happy, the signs are all there you just refuse to see them.
Banks are far from happy. Some want to leave, others are seeing declines in revenue because of low interest rates.Banks are happy, I'm very happy, the signs are all there you just refuse to see them.
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