Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader

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vaud said:

Dan Jarvis is both mayor AND is still an MP for Barnsley. HTH.

Yup, he said he’s thinking of running too. In the article quoted.

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Comstock said:

They need to thin this field rapidly. No more than four to go forward to the final vote or it'll be chaotic.

I suppose the field is naturally self-limiting as candidates require 10% of the MPs support to stand.

Still wouldn't put it past Jesus Corbyn to rise from the dead if it looks like his choice of candidate might not win.

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janesmith1950 said:

I suppose the field is naturally self-limiting as candidates require 10% of the MPs support to stand.

Still wouldn't put it past Jesus Corbyn to rise from the dead if it looks like his choice of candidate might not win.

Well that would still theoretically allow for a field of 10 running, which would be far too many.

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JuanCarlosFandango said:

Quite significant Christian opposition to the holocaust. Probably most notably in the form of Mit brennender Sorge (With Burning Concern) which "condemned "pantheistic confusion", "neopaganism", "the so-called myth of race and blood", and the idolizing of the State." It was smuggled into the Third Reich and read from the pulpit of Catholic churches on Palm Sunday in 1937 (to reach the widest possible audience).

Or there's Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeff opposed the Nazis from the start and was hanged for his association with the plot to assassinate Hitler.

The churches were not without blame in Nazi Germany. No institution was. But cheerleaders or passive bystanders does not describe the above.

Although not a genocide the Archbishop of Lagos in 2002 offered to be stoned in place of a Muslim woman convicted of adultery. An act of astonishing humanity and courage which helped bring attention to the case and perhaps helped save the life of the woman accused.

Stalin and Mao were explicitly atheist and religious groups were often the targets of their brutality. Pol Pot was fiercely anti religious. The Dalai Lama has brought world wide attention to China's occupation of Tibet. Again it's impossible to say how much this international attention has reigned in Beijings worst excesses but "probably, some" is still better than none in my view.

More importantly though is the fact that religion, and particularly Christianity, has the power to give a direct link between the individual and a power higher and mightier than any state or earthly authority can ever be. There's no way of measuring what sort of a brake this provided, if any, on the genocides we did and didn't have since 1900 or in any other period. However simply from the point of view of a division of powers it seems worth having as an alternative to either state power or the rationalist conceit that all we know is all there is to know. Or the deadly combination of both.

sorry you lost me when I realised neither Mao Stalin or Hitler were still alive and hence unable to replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader

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Comstock said:

Well that would still theoretically allow for a field of 10 running, which would be far too many.

Why would that be too many?

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janesmith1950 said:

Comstock said:

Well that would still theoretically allow for a field of 10 running, which would be far too many.

Why would that be too many?

well...………….
cast your mind back to the recent tory thingey

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s2art said:

How about a long shot. Blair throws his hat into the ring, and awaits a by-election.

May not be a long shot.
Might just be from a few feet away

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vaud said:

I think the question less about Blair, and more as to why David Millililiband is not throwing his hat in...

Would you give up that cushy number he is on to sort that mess out, knowing momentum will be trying to damage you?

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If he hadn't already been leader, I'd suggest Ed Milliband, who has the advantage over his brother of actually being an MP and hence being eligible to run. But in any case we aren't short of candidates!

Daily Mirror today saying good things about Jess Philips. I'll take another look at her, but I think it'll be a no from me.

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He wont hang on past this election process, his plan is simply to control who succeeds him.

It's pretty obvious they (Corbyn, McDonell, Momentum) want Wrong Daily.

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David Lammy isnt running. First serious candidate to drop out

https://www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/labour-leadership...

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Got to be Sir Keir, the epitome of a Labour man:

“The human rights lawyer, who was made Queen's Counsel in 2002, served as head of the Crown Prosecution Service and accepted a knighthood in 2014, and has struggled to shake-off perceptions of privilege.”

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Troubleatmill said:

Starmer on Marr now cementing another 8 years of Tory government.

Prior to that we had Jess "vote for me I was tellin the truth" Phillips on
Hopeless hopeless hopeless

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Dan Jarvis

hidetheelephants said:

He's a bit busy being a regional mayor at the moment; not being an MP rather cramps his ability to stand in, never mind win a leadership contest.

When you realise he is an MP

hidetheelephants said:

Double dipping? I'm sure he's doing such a good job at both occupations. rolleyes This multitasking powerhouse must be capable of being party leader too! wobble.

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Keir’s career has been a bit more impressive than corbyn’s anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer?wprov=s...

Have there been other party leaders with knighthoods? It’s not something I’ve heard of before. I don’t mean people like IDS who got one for being an MP.

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A politician lying? Surely not!

They really are rather vile characters.

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Brexit should be more or less irrelevant by the next election.

Kier Starmer is about the only one with any gravitas who could take the party forward. All the others are either lightweight or stuck in the ancient crazy lefty past.

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turbobloke said:

spaximus said:

They still think it was Brexit alone

And it wasn't just Corbyn. Narxism with corbynomics/freebienomics, which could be peddled by anyone and still get rejected.

Narxism will do it........!

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pingu393 said:

CambsBill said:

El stovey said:

Have there been other party leaders with knighthoods? It’s not something I’ve heard of before. I don’t mean people like IDS who got one for being an MP.

I can think of one . . .

I think the point being made was that KS was knighted for work outside of politics. I can't recall any other politician being elected leader of a party who had been awarded a knighthood for work outside of politics.

Winston was awarded his knighthood in 1953 and he was already leader of the Conservative Party.

Yeah it wasn’t saying his knighthood was significant just that I can’t think of (m)any MPs who had knighthoods from outside politics.

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Troubleatmill said:

He's fked before he even starts.

Let’s hope so.