Food Stamps - What's the issue?

[Caulkhead]

rover 623gsi said:

Caulkhead said:

Once again, JSA wasn't mentioned in the OP.

then who are these people who "choose not to work"?

You'll have to ask the OP to be sure, but I'm pretty sure there'd be a fair number of long-term incapacity benefit claimants in there. . . . .

[rover 623gsi]

stitched said:

rover 623gsi said:

Caulkhead said:

Once again, JSA wasn't mentioned in the OP.

then who are these people who "choose not to work"?

If you really do not know the answer to this then I suggest you spend a couple of sessions at your local Magistrates court.
Listen to the bit where the scrote gets to pay his 12,000th fine for burglary/theft/dealing at @5p per week as he is on JSA.
Who knows you might meet some useful future employees there.
Caution, breath don't hold.

I am well aware that there are some people who take the piss and have no intention of working, or looking for work. However, these people are very much in the minority and there is no legal definition which sets them apart from those that are looking for work. If you are out of work and receiving benefits as a result it will be either JSA (which by definition means you are looking for work) or it will be Income Support (if you are on IS you do not have to be looking for work).

So, who are these people that “choose not to work”? How would you define them? How many are there?

[stitched]

rover 623gsi said:

stitched said:

rover 623gsi said:

Caulkhead said:

Once again, JSA wasn't mentioned in the OP.

then who are these people who "choose not to work"?

If you really do not know the answer to this then I suggest you spend a couple of sessions at your local Magistrates court.
Listen to the bit where the scrote gets to pay his 12,000th fine for burglary/theft/dealing at @5p per week as he is on JSA.
Who knows you might meet some useful future employees there.
Caution, breath don't hold.

I am well aware that there are some people who take the piss and have no intention of working, or looking for work. However, these people are very much in the minority and there is no legal definition which sets them apart from those that are looking for work. If you are out of work and receiving benefits as a result it will be either JSA (which by definition means you are looking for work) or it will be Income Support (if you are on IS you do not have to be looking for work).

So, who are these people that “choose not to work”? How would you define them? How many are there?

TBF some have found themselves in an income trap without intent, these simply cannot afford to take work at their payscale as they will lose enough income that their expenses will not be met.
Others have deliberately put themselves into this position.
I don't have sky as it seems an unnecessary expense to me. My sons schoolfriends are appalled at this. Including those whose parents do not work. Something I see as unnecessary luxury some see as a basic necessity.
Ditto expensive sportswear, phones, games consoles etc.
Benefits are supposed to provide basics such as roof and food.

[chris watton]

What about, just to be fair, giving food stamps to those who have been caught cheating the system, be it fake invalidity or just taking more than they should get?

[stitched]

chris watton said:

What about, just to be fair, giving food stamps to those who have been caught cheating the system, be it fake invalidity or just taking more than they should get?

Actually I don't think the commons bar accepts them.

[Caulkhead]

rover 623gsi said:

stitched said:

rover 623gsi said:

Caulkhead said:

Once again, JSA wasn't mentioned in the OP.

then who are these people who "choose not to work"?

If you really do not know the answer to this then I suggest you spend a couple of sessions at your local Magistrates court.
Listen to the bit where the scrote gets to pay his 12,000th fine for burglary/theft/dealing at @5p per week as he is on JSA.
Who knows you might meet some useful future employees there.
Caution, breath don't hold.

I am well aware that there are some people who take the piss and have no intention of working, or looking for work. However, these people are very much in the minority and there is no legal definition which sets them apart from those that are looking for work. If you are out of work and receiving benefits as a result it will be either JSA (which by definition means you are looking for work) or it will be Income Support (if you are on IS you do not have to be looking for work).

So, who are these people that “choose not to work”? How would you define them? How many are there?

Here's your starter for ten:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14280849

[DonkeyApple]

stitched said:

DonkeyApple said:

stitched said:

rover 623gsi said:

Caulkhead said:

Once again, JSA wasn't mentioned in the OP.

then who are these people who "choose not to work"?

If you really do not know the answer to this then I suggest you spend a couple of sessions at your local Magistrates court.
Listen to the bit where the scrote gets to pay his 12,000th fine for burglary/theft/dealing at @5p per week as he is on JSA.
Who knows you might meet some useful future employees there.
Caution, breath don't hold.

Why would a burglar be on JSA when he is demonstably self employed?

Because he inexplicably failed to register his business.

I hope they reprimanded him. I guess it means he may not have been paying tax on his income?

[Rude-boy]

stitched said:

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I don't have sky as it seems an unnecessary expense to me. My sons schoolfriends are appalled at this. Including those whose parents do not work. Something I see as unnecessary luxury some see as a basic necessity.
Ditto expensive sportswear, phones, games consoles etc.
Benefits are supposed to provide basics such as roof and food.

They are only a necessity if you have massive amounts of time to kill and nothing to do. If people treated looking for a job as a 9-5 job itself they would find that they have a lot less gaming and Sky time.

Apart from the cost of it I don’t have Sky as I’m perfectly capable of reading a book, doing something practical, talking or bonking if there isn’t something on one of the 10’s of Freeview channels and I have any time. I’ll only be getting it this year as I can ‘easily’ afford it and I want to watch as many GP’s live as I can. But that’s the point – I can afford it only because I am cutting a few other things to be able to do so. If I was out of contract and found myself unemployed I’d terminate it like a shot. How people who have been on JSA past a termination date can possibly say that it is a necessity it don’t know.