Trump son on safari kills variety of wildlife...
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VinceFox said:
Pesty said:
carmonk said:
Bravo!
To the Op.If you had posted a link I would have whole hearted agreed with you.
No objection to shooting antelope etc etc No need in m y opinion to go after the "big 5"
Why anybody would want to shoot a leopard is beyond me.
You can't eat it.
What we have here, ladies and gentlemen, is a thread by an inveterate vermin enthusiast trying to make a song-and-dance out of a couple of rich Septics carving up or wrestling with stuff probably shot by someone else, presumably in order to promote his agenda regarding how we should conduct our domestic affairs, and frankly, making a piss-poor job of it.
eharding said:
VinceFox said:
eharding said:
VinceFox said:
Keep going, i'm nearly there.
No, you were on the vinegar strokes when you started the topic.Now, about that link?
king link? Find your own porn you lazy fker.Is that so difficult. Really?
I was in SA just before christmas I was working with a guy who owned what he called a 'farm'
What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and the money went into the running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post. We needed the facts man just the facts
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and the money went into the running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post. We needed the facts man just the facts
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
Pesty said:
I was in SA just before christmas I was working with a guy who owned what he called a 'farm'
What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and teh money went into teh running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post.
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
Like i said, anyone who lives with or knows anything about wildlife can't deny the need for population control. I'm just an inveterate vermin lover though, so i'll have to bow to the superior knowledge of others here. Ad hominem rules, ok.What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and teh money went into teh running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post.
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
eharding said:
No idea why you'd shoot a Leopard either, unless it was trying to kill an Antelope you'd already drawn a bead on, and simply got in the way.
Not sure those are the best reasons I've ever heard. One reason might be that it was rushing at you (no st on miniTrump's pants so that wasn't the case) and another might be... No, that's it.Vince,
come on you can't complain your first post was vague and we could'nt make an informed judgement as to what you were on abbout because we couldn't guess as to your point.
anybody who did not instantly agree with you was also labled a neanderthol remember, ad homs went both ways on this thread. Not by me I might ad.
come on you can't complain your first post was vague and we could'nt make an informed judgement as to what you were on abbout because we couldn't guess as to your point.
anybody who did not instantly agree with you was also labled a neanderthol remember, ad homs went both ways on this thread. Not by me I might ad.
eharding said:
VinceFox said:
Pesty said:
carmonk said:
Bravo!
To the Op.If you had posted a link I would have whole hearted agreed with you.
No objection to shooting antelope etc etc No need in m y opinion to go after the "big 5"
Why anybody would want to shoot a leopard is beyond me.
You can't eat it.
What we have here, ladies and gentlemen, is a thread by an inveterate vermin enthusiast trying to make a song-and-dance out of a couple of rich Septics carving up or wrestling with stuff probably shot by someone else, presumably in order to promote his agenda regarding how we should conduct our domestic affairs, and frankly, making a piss-poor job of it.
Pesty said:
Vince,
come on you can't complain your first post was vague and we could'nt make an informed judgement as to what you were on abbout because we couldn't guess as to your point.
anybody who did not instantly agree with you was also labled a neanderthol remember, ad homs went both ways on this thread. Not by me I might ad.
At no point did i call anyone a neanderthal. If you look, i actually attempted to correct the use of that as an insult. I'd actually welcome a reasoned discussion about what is considered acceptable and unacceptable by people on here regarding the killing of animals. It's also worth pointing out my reference to ad hominem insults was not directed at you. You've been a lot more reasoned and fair than some and for that, thanks.come on you can't complain your first post was vague and we could'nt make an informed judgement as to what you were on abbout because we couldn't guess as to your point.
anybody who did not instantly agree with you was also labled a neanderthol remember, ad homs went both ways on this thread. Not by me I might ad.
carmonk said:
Bravo!
and a lovely clean shirt with no blood on his knife. Almost like he's a cowardly little fk who got handed a piece of a dead animal so he can pretend to be a great white hunter.
If you look closely you can see the blood on his trousers where it looks like he has wiped the knife.and a lovely clean shirt with no blood on his knife. Almost like he's a cowardly little f
k who got handed a piece of a dead animal so he can pretend to be a great white hunter.Donald Trumps kids are well known for being hunters and Donald disagrees with it.
If you do a bit of research you will find that these are fenced off reserves where the animals are bred to be hunted. Alot of the money goes back into the 'community' and pays towards the tribes. Its not a case of hunting wild animals as you'd think.
I'd like to add I'm not for or against hunting but a few pictures don't paint a thousand true words.
Pesty said:
I was in SA just before christmas I was working with a guy who owned what he called a 'farm'
What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and the money went into the running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post. We needed the facts man just the facts
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
I'm working down in SA right now. Hunting is normal where I am based, as Pesty mentions the meat collected is used in Biltong and also braaied.What it turned out to be was a huge amound of land with various species of antelope. they needed to control it and had to cull an amount of the live stock every year.
They decided to get extra money by having 'hunters' come and pay for doing it. All the meat was used for food biltong etc etc and the money went into the running of the farm
They managed it very well and all shooters were tested first to make sure they were capable of shooting.
Seemed logical to me which is why I was not outraged by your first post. We needed the facts man just the facts
He told me stories about people turning up and not being able to shoot anything just paying and leaving. He also said quite a lot of people go there shoot one and then feel so guilty they can't sleep for days and just go home without shooting anything else.
We have a very strange view on hunting in the UK, but the guys here eat what they shoot and don't waste it. I've already been invited by a few a local chaps to their farms and to go hunting with them. I'm looking forward to it to be honest.
However, I cannot condone the killing of a big cat. It is just a senseless waste of a beautiful animal.
bobskii said:
I'm working down in SA right now. Hunting is normal where I am based, as Pesty mentions the meat collected is used in Biltong and also braaied.
We have a very strange view on hunting in the UK, but the guys here eat what they shoot and don't waste it. I've already been invited by a few a local chaps to their farms and to go hunting with them. I'm looking forward to it to be honest.
However, I cannot condone the killing of a big cat. It is just a senseless waste of a beautiful animal.
^^^^*This. There is a world of difference to culling antelope and deer which are not endangered and killing a large cat or any of the Big 5. We have a very strange view on hunting in the UK, but the guys here eat what they shoot and don't waste it. I've already been invited by a few a local chaps to their farms and to go hunting with them. I'm looking forward to it to be honest.
However, I cannot condone the killing of a big cat. It is just a senseless waste of a beautiful animal.
Killing leopards , lions and such for "sport" is quite disgusting - there are not that many big cats - especially leopards which are relatively scarce on the game parks such as Kruger or South Luangwa etc.
Kudu biltong on the other hand IS very tasty
alfaman said:
Kudu biltong on the other hand IS very tasty
Some of the lads brought some in for me last week. Absolutely lovely!Plus Kudu are a real problem in these parts, we had a couple of fatalities and several collisions with guys heading into work in the morning and again in the evening. One of the buggers ran across the road in front of me last week and it was huge! Would have made a real mess of the bakkie.
alfaman said:
bobskii said:
I'm working down in SA right now. Hunting is normal where I am based, as Pesty mentions the meat collected is used in Biltong and also braaied.
We have a very strange view on hunting in the UK, but the guys here eat what they shoot and don't waste it. I've already been invited by a few a local chaps to their farms and to go hunting with them. I'm looking forward to it to be honest.
However, I cannot condone the killing of a big cat. It is just a senseless waste of a beautiful animal.
^^^^*This. There is a world of difference to culling antelope and deer which are not endangered and killing a large cat or any of the Big 5. We have a very strange view on hunting in the UK, but the guys here eat what they shoot and don't waste it. I've already been invited by a few a local chaps to their farms and to go hunting with them. I'm looking forward to it to be honest.
However, I cannot condone the killing of a big cat. It is just a senseless waste of a beautiful animal.
Killing leopards , lions and such for "sport" is quite disgusting - there are not that many big cats - especially leopards which are relatively scarce on the game parks such as Kruger or South Luangwa etc.
Kudu biltong on the other hand IS very tasty
What if it was already injured and was put out of it's mysery?
So many what if's not enough answers.
However I strongly disagree with the "gory photographs" brigade, period.
I remember buying a large bag of biltong to snack on driving from the Drakensberg to Nelspruit ..was meant to last a few days.
I finished the whole bag in an hour or so
.... It is unbelievably addictive ....but so much dried red meat in one leads to massive constipation !!!! nnnnnnnnnn!
I finished the whole bag in an hour or so
.... It is unbelievably addictive ....but so much dried red meat in one leads to massive constipation !!!! nnnnnnnnnn!Mojocvh said:
What if there are too many and the natural balance had shifted towards the towards the predators and they were at a level that was unsustainable viz food chain?
What if it was already injured and was put out of it's mysery?
So many what if's not enough answers.
However I strongly disagree with the "gory photographs" brigade, period.
if you get too many predators for the amount of food available ...they tend to starve , which then reduces numbers.What if it was already injured and was put out of it's mysery?
So many what if's not enough answers.
However I strongly disagree with the "gory photographs" brigade, period.
(this is what tended to happen where I grew up (Alaska) ... Hunting moose and such was generally OK , but bear hunting very heavily restricted .
Also - large cats are generally quite scarce and help cull the antelope ( I have seen a leopard in action inZambia ...was fascinating to watch the not so clever deer go foraging for breakfast right underneath the leopard !)
alfaman said:
I remember buying a large bag of biltong to snack on driving from the Drakensberg to Nelspruit ..was meant to last a few days.
I finished the whole bag in an hour or so .... It is unbelievably addictive ....but so much dried red meat in one leads to massive constipation !!!! nnnnnnnnnn!
I'm heading over that way with a few mates at the end of April for a few days of hooning. I can't wait! I finished the whole bag in an hour or so
.... It is unbelievably addictive ....but so much dried red meat in one leads to massive constipation !!!! nnnnnnnnnn!I haven't eaten that much biltong yet, though I could see my self doing so. Didn't know it can stop you up, now't several Windhoeks couldn't sort out though.
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