Winnie Johnson Dies
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But why conflate two things that have nothing to do with each other?
I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
Eric Mc said:
But why conflate two things that have nothing to do with each other?
I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
Are we reading the same thread?I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
You insinuate that yet you are the one who said you'd rather have the mars rover than have a young boy found and given a descent burial.
longshot said:
Eric Mc said:
But why conflate two things that have nothing to do with each other?
I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
Are we reading the same thread?I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
You insinuate that yet you are the one who said you'd rather have the mars rover than have a young boy found and given a descent burial.
I thought all burials were of a "descent" nature.
Eric Mc said:
longshot said:
Eric Mc said:
But why conflate two things that have nothing to do with each other?
I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
Are we reading the same thread?I would wager that the entire cost of the Moors case over the 50 years would already be quite substantial. There have been quite a few searches over the decades and ALL of teh children were found - except for one. Are people trying to insinuate that the authoriies didn't care and didn't try?
I think that is a gross insult to everyone involved in this half century old case.
You insinuate that yet you are the one who said you'd rather have the mars rover than have a young boy found and given a descent burial.
I thought all burials were of a "descent" nature.
Being buried in a hole up on the moors which he was dumped in after being murdered isn't descent in my opinion. What about yours?
Getragdogleg said:
Getting all petty about spelling on this topic thread is pretty poor form.
You knew what the guy meant, stop being a dick.
Eric has a point though.You knew what the guy meant, stop being a dick.
The technology to do what NASA do isn't necessarily applicable to finding a small amount of remains in The Moors. You noted that the location is "known". It is not. Quite obviously so as he would have been found ages ago.
You're talking a massive, massive area of unforgiving terrain. Attempts have been made in the past and failed. Regardless of what you think technology can now do, it would still take immense amounts of manpower and money to do a thorough enough job of searching The Moors without first being able to narrow the search area down to a relatively small zone.
It's sad that he may never be found. But I'm afraid putting the resources to the task makes no sense unless it can be fully privately funded.
Part of me wonders whether Brady even knows now. And also whether technology advances in extracting information might be better employed...
Eric Mc said:
Murph7355 said:
longshot said:
Is that a promise?
Being buried in a hole up on the moors which he was dumped in after being murdered isn't descent in my opinion. What about yours?
"Decent" is what Eric is getting at.Being buried in a hole up on the moors which he was dumped in after being murdered isn't descent in my opinion. What about yours?
k me, my sides have split.What a dick you are.
No, Eric does not have a point, nit picking the difference between Decent and Descent is a bit of a tts trick and make no mistake.
The point is that although the moors are huge only little bits of them were used as burial sites, these were accessable from the road and quite close to eachother.
Enough people and technology ought to be able to sort this loose end out. If its cold hard cash that is lacking here then remember that money is a creation of mankind, we ought to make the money fit the problem.
ts trick and make no mistake.The point is that although the moors are huge only little bits of them were used as burial sites, these were accessable from the road and quite close to eachother.
Enough people and technology ought to be able to sort this loose end out. If its cold hard cash that is lacking here then remember that money is a creation of mankind, we ought to make the money fit the problem.
Getragdogleg said:
No, Eric does not have a point, nit picking the difference between Decent and Descent is a bit of a tts trick and make no mistake.
The point is that although the moors are huge only little bits of them were used as burial sites, these were accessable from the road and quite close to eachother.
Enough people and technology ought to be able to sort this loose end out. If its cold hard cash that is lacking here then remember that money is a creation of mankind, we ought to make the money fit the problem.
I'm sure the experts who have already looked several times would very much welcome your expertise, shovel and multi-million pound donation. ts trick and make no mistake.The point is that although the moors are huge only little bits of them were used as burial sites, these were accessable from the road and quite close to eachother.
Enough people and technology ought to be able to sort this loose end out. If its cold hard cash that is lacking here then remember that money is a creation of mankind, we ought to make the money fit the problem.
Perhaps you have a radar equipped aircraft in your lock up capable of scanning every inch of The Moors and able to spot a small boy's remains after being up there for 50yrs?
I have no doubt Eric is hugely empathetic with the situation. As am I. But I'm afraid comments like yours and longshots are very easy to make when one doesn't have to commit to the resources to actually execute a "plan".
Is there even any guarantee the poor kid is even up there?
I don't mind being called names. I always look on it as a mark of the intellect of the name caller.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
Eric Mc said:
I don't mind being called names. I always look on it as a mark of the intellect of the name caller.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
I called you a "name" because that is how you were acting with the whole spelling smugness, you were acting like a dick so I let you know.Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
I know you have a good PH reputation but be careful you don't damage it with ill thought out attempts at humour that backfire. Get over yourself a bit. You are coming across badly and this is not the first time I have read posts from you where you seem like a smug know it all. I am sure you don't want to be that poster.
Back to the discussion, Mr Brady knows where the child is, he is a very mentally able manipulator who is playing a long game. It's not like he has anything else to do while he sits in his prison all day, It is a big case and still "almost 50 years later" attracts huge media attention. The areas the children were buried in were recognised as being close to one another and close to the road. This is not a search of the whole of Saddleworth moor, just a better modern going over of areas that both Hindley and Brady led the Police to previously.
The other missing people do matter as much but how many cases do you know of where the location of the body is known to be in a certain area a few hundred yards from a road that the killers other victims were found near ?
Eric Mc said:
I don't mind being called names. I always look on it as a mark of the intellect of the name caller.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
Funny you should say that.Hundreds, if not thousands, of people go missing in the UK every year. In the almost 50 years since this poor little chap was abducted and murdered, tens of thousands must have disappeared completely.
Are people seriously advocating that massive national resources should be devoted to the search for all these people?
Or if they are advocating a special case for this particular missing person, how would you explain the lack of commitment of the same level of resources to the families of all those other missing persons?
I've certainly built an impression of you, a man who plays childish pranks on a thread like this.
+100 cool points. Nice one.
I tell you what. further up the page is a link to the Keith Bennett website.
If you go on there, there is a forum about him and the case.
Why don't you go on that forum and post your opinions. I'm sure Alan Bennett who be interested in reading them.
What opinions are those then?
The opinion I expressed here was that it was silly to compare the search for a missing child with a space exploration project. Venturing to the website of a relative of the missing child to tell them that would be just as nonsensical as the original linking of the two totally unrelated activities.
As for name calling, others can engage in that if they want to. If you look back at the many posts I have made on this site over a 10 year period, you will see that it is something I have never sunk to.
Brady is an evil psycopath who obviously gets his kicks from trying to exercise control and administering pain - whether that pain is physical or mental. Unfortunately, I do fear that the last piece of this puzzle is going to remain forever missing due to his inhumane personality.
The opinion I expressed here was that it was silly to compare the search for a missing child with a space exploration project. Venturing to the website of a relative of the missing child to tell them that would be just as nonsensical as the original linking of the two totally unrelated activities.
As for name calling, others can engage in that if they want to. If you look back at the many posts I have made on this site over a 10 year period, you will see that it is something I have never sunk to.
Brady is an evil psycopath who obviously gets his kicks from trying to exercise control and administering pain - whether that pain is physical or mental. Unfortunately, I do fear that the last piece of this puzzle is going to remain forever missing due to his inhumane personality.
Eric Mc said:
What opinions are those then?
The opinion I expressed here was that it was silly to compare the search for a missing child with a space exploration project. Venturing to the website of a relative of the missing child to tell them that would be just as nonsensical as the original linking of the two totally unrelated activities.
As for name calling, others can engage in that if they want to. If you look back at the many posts I have made on this site over a 10 year period, you will see that it is something I have never sunk to.
Brady is an evil psycopath who obviously gets his kicks from trying to exercise control and administering pain - whether that pain is physical or mental. Unfortunately, I do fear that the last piece of this puzzle is going to remain forever missing due to his inhumane personality.
The opinion that large anounts of resources shouldn't be used to find lost people?The opinion I expressed here was that it was silly to compare the search for a missing child with a space exploration project. Venturing to the website of a relative of the missing child to tell them that would be just as nonsensical as the original linking of the two totally unrelated activities.
As for name calling, others can engage in that if they want to. If you look back at the many posts I have made on this site over a 10 year period, you will see that it is something I have never sunk to.
Brady is an evil psycopath who obviously gets his kicks from trying to exercise control and administering pain - whether that pain is physical or mental. Unfortunately, I do fear that the last piece of this puzzle is going to remain forever missing due to his inhumane personality.
To be honest, I'm not going to try to explain the comparison between to 2 because you either can't or don't want to see it.
A thread about Winnie and Keith has been reduced to this.
I'm not going to post on this thread anymore in the hope it gets back to it's intended purpose.
Hopefully you will do the same but I suspect you will want the last word.
Ozzie Osmond said:
For goodness sake. You could make a list of the top 1,000 PH idiots and Eric's name would still be nowhere near it.
This ^^Secondly none of you, I'd wager, have actually ever been on Saddleworth moor engaged in a search, usual PH keyboard rattlers. It's a bloody grim place I tell you.
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