Unemployed ? Got 11 kids ? Fancy a new house ?
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
That is the toughest question of all. We now have third generation underclass f
kwits, with no aspirations, no interest in education, and no chance of getting out of "the life".
Most of them actually live on tiny amounts that us lot couldn't live on, maybe supplemented by some crime or black market work, but often not even supplemented by that. But what can we do, let children starve?
I have an idea. Won't sit well with the hand-wringing leftists though kwits, with no aspirations, no interest in education, and no chance of getting out of "the life". Most of them actually live on tiny amounts that us lot couldn't live on, maybe supplemented by some crime or black market work, but often not even supplemented by that. But what can we do, let children starve?
g3org3y said:
Is this not the real tragedy? Sensible people work out whether they can afford a child before trying. Often this means they leave it quite a bit later (early/mid 30s) and may suffer the unforutnate issues of later pregnancy (increased risk of miscarriages etc).
The peasants fk first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...
How can the cycle be broken?
THe only way it could be broken is with tough justice no guaranteed benefits or benefits only for 1 or 2 children but no government would have the guts to do this. The peasants f
k first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...How can the cycle be broken?
What I want to know is when all these 11 kids get their own council house and move out does the parent also move out therefore freeing up the council house or do they rattle around in it for years?
BoRED S2upid said:
g3org3y said:
Is this not the real tragedy? Sensible people work out whether they can afford a child before trying. Often this means they leave it quite a bit later (early/mid 30s) and may suffer the unforutnate issues of later pregnancy (increased risk of miscarriages etc).
The peasants fk first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...
How can the cycle be broken?
THe only way it could be broken is with tough justice no guaranteed benefits or benefits only for 1 or 2 children but no government would have the guts to do this. The peasants f
k first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...How can the cycle be broken?
What I want to know is when all these 11 kids get their own council house and move out does the parent also move out therefore freeing up the council house or do they rattle around in it for years?
joe_90 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
g3org3y said:
What I want to know is when all these 11 kids get their own council house and move out does the parent also move out therefore freeing up the council house or do they rattle around in it for years?
Thats what I wondered, if shes in it for the long game, is this house for life for her? Its on bbc2 at the moment.y2blade said:
Listening to this on BBC R2..... Pissboiling.
Thing is, what we tend to forget is that not everyone is of equal intelligence, but what can you actually do.. You could never enforce sterilizing etc.However without doubt, 80% of those kids will grown up, have loads of kids and live in a free council house.
Scuffers said:
well, I find it perverse we have people dropping kids without a care in the world that we (as in the state) have to pick up the tab for, yet at the same time we (the state again) pay huge money for IVF etc.
what am I missing?
We have someone in our family who works with families like the one referred to in the article and he thinks the only answer is to take the kids away from their parents and give them to 'nice' families. what am I missing?
He doesn't think it's a good idea to mention this idea when he's at work though.
g3org3y said:
Is this not the real tragedy? Sensible people work out whether they can afford a child before trying. Often this means they leave it quite a bit later (early/mid 30s) and may suffer the unforutnate issues of later pregnancy (increased risk of miscarriages etc).
The peasants fk first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...
How can the cycle be broken?
Scrap child benefit. All of it, none of this higher rate of tax payers this, limited to two children that, etc. Scrapped. End of.The peasants f
k first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...How can the cycle be broken?
If *YOU* want them, *YOU* pay for them.
Simple.
fiatpower said:
Saw this on the Mail and quite liked a quote one of her neighbours came up with:
Furious neighbour: 'It's a disgrace. She treats her womb like a clown car'
This is the funniest thing I have ever read. I was suppressing my laughter so hard I started to cry in the office hahaFurious neighbour: 'It's a disgrace. She treats her womb like a clown car'
joe_90 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
g3org3y said:
Is this not the real tragedy? Sensible people work out whether they can afford a child before trying. Often this means they leave it quite a bit later (early/mid 30s) and may suffer the unforutnate issues of later pregnancy (increased risk of miscarriages etc).
The peasants fk first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...
How can the cycle be broken?
THe only way it could be broken is with tough justice no guaranteed benefits or benefits only for 1 or 2 children but no government would have the guts to do this. The peasants f
k first and think later (if at all). Ultimately the state will sort them out, whatever happens. It's never just one or two kids either, it's five or six if not more. And thus it continues...How can the cycle be broken?
What I want to know is when all these 11 kids get their own council house and move out does the parent also move out therefore freeing up the council house or do they rattle around in it for years?
Jayyylo said:
fiatpower said:
Saw this on the Mail and quite liked a quote one of her neighbours came up with:
Furious neighbour: 'It's a disgrace. She treats her womb like a clown car'
This is the funniest thing I have ever read. I was suppressing my laughter so hard I started to cry in the office hahaFurious neighbour: 'It's a disgrace. She treats her womb like a clown car'
Its another example of our out of control benefit system.No point in blaming an idle brain dead "baby factory" for holding her hand out.Its the Councils who house and feed families like hers that are to blame,or the system they work to?
Poor old Duncan is trying hard but is more or less stuffed with all the libs around him.Successive Governments have created this "Benefits Monster" and no one will reduce it completely?? Wait till the end of the year when all the Romanian Gypsies arrive.
Poor old Duncan is trying hard but is more or less stuffed with all the libs around him.Successive Governments have created this "Benefits Monster" and no one will reduce it completely?? Wait till the end of the year when all the Romanian Gypsies arrive.
And just as the flames of outrage were dying down, the Maily Telegraph uncaps another can of petrol and shakes it vigorously:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9880720/Une...
" An unemployed mother-of-11 for whom a council is building a six-bedroom "eco mansion” is keeping her own horse despite being on benefits.
Heather Frost, 36, bought a grey mare called Annie last year and pays paddock fees, food and vet’s bills every month.
According to stable hands the animal, which Miss Frost keeps for her 16-year-old daughter Angel, costs about £200 per month to look after."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9880720/Une...
" An unemployed mother-of-11 for whom a council is building a six-bedroom "eco mansion” is keeping her own horse despite being on benefits.
Heather Frost, 36, bought a grey mare called Annie last year and pays paddock fees, food and vet’s bills every month.
According to stable hands the animal, which Miss Frost keeps for her 16-year-old daughter Angel, costs about £200 per month to look after."
Newc said:
And just as the flames of outrage were dying down, the Maily Telegraph uncaps another can of petrol and shakes it vigorously:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9880720/Une...
" An unemployed mother-of-11 for whom a council is building a six-bedroom "eco mansion” is keeping her own horse despite being on benefits.
Heather Frost, 36, bought a grey mare called Annie last year and pays paddock fees, food and vet’s bills every month.
According to stable hands the animal, which Miss Frost keeps for her 16-year-old daughter Angel, costs about £200 per month to look after."
Well cut her benefits and they won't starve thenhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9880720/Une...
" An unemployed mother-of-11 for whom a council is building a six-bedroom "eco mansion” is keeping her own horse despite being on benefits.
Heather Frost, 36, bought a grey mare called Annie last year and pays paddock fees, food and vet’s bills every month.
According to stable hands the animal, which Miss Frost keeps for her 16-year-old daughter Angel, costs about £200 per month to look after."
What really really fks me off about all this is, as someone who is single after a long term relationship, and house sharing, is where is my fking help?
If something were to happen and I had to find another place to rent/buy despite never being out of a job, never getting into any trouble of any kind, always paying my way, building up some savings etc, I would most likely struggle to find somewhere that was not a total st hole on my single income, I could get somewhere decent if I gave up/cut back on everything that made life enjoyable, car/holidays/social life etc or found another share, yet all she and others has to do is pop out a bunch of kids and never has to have those worries, ever.
Ok she may not have a car/Holidays etc but that sort always seem content with idling the days away gossiping with the other single mothers and watching the telly or whatever.
ks me off about all this is, as someone who is single after a long term relationship, and house sharing, is where is my fking help? If something were to happen and I had to find another place to rent/buy despite never being out of a job, never getting into any trouble of any kind, always paying my way, building up some savings etc, I would most likely struggle to find somewhere that was not a total s
t hole on my single income, I could get somewhere decent if I gave up/cut back on everything that made life enjoyable, car/holidays/social life etc or found another share, yet all she and others has to do is pop out a bunch of kids and never has to have those worries, ever. Ok she may not have a car/Holidays etc but that sort always seem content with idling the days away gossiping with the other single mothers and watching the telly or whatever.
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