This a*se should be arrested

[anonymous-user]

Ridgemont said:

Likewise the RNLI is not there to be an assist when someone decides to do a little extreme sport. It’s there to save lives at the risk of their own life.
If you want to get a extreme sport support service eff off and pay for it.

Yes and your point is? Ironically the people who use the sea I know all regularly contribute a reasonable amount of money to the RNLI. They are one of the best funded charities out there.

[anonymous-user]

Ridgemont said:

They may well be. The conditions for vessels on the other hand were not regular.

What would you class as 'regular' conditions?

[Johnny Raydome]

If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price.

[eharding]

Andy20vt said:

eharding said:

Please, do stroll on....when was the last time we had these sort of conditions around UK coasts that he could have been "fairly experienced" in?

Fairly regularly throughout the winter. Although messy, those waves were small fry compared to the kind of stuff that regularly gets surfed.

In which case, how did your mate lose his equipment, drift several miles to shore and cause a lifeboat to be launched?

Frankly, I'm not sure who is the bigger idiot here. Your mate for causing this, or you trying to apologise for him.

[rallycross]

Johnny Raydome said:

If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price.

50 year storm bro’.

What an idiot for putting other people at risk due to his own stupidity.

[Ridgemont]

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

Likewise the RNLI is not there to be an assist when someone decides to do a little extreme sport. It’s there to save lives at the risk of their own life.
If you want to get a extreme sport support service eff off and pay for it.

Yes and your point is? Ironically the people who use the sea I know all regularly contribute a reasonable amount of money to the RNLI. They are one of the best funded charities out there.

My point should be obvious. This man put himself in stupid harms way. The RNLI is dedicated to rescuing such people and he was bloody lucky, but could have easily been a statistic tomorrow morning. A statistic the RNLI is there to keep as low as possible by intervening. That he chose to go out and then frankly by luck survived, while assists were scrambled (and pointlessly despite the obvious peril) is just double stupid. I have no idea why you are arguing this.

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

Andy20vt said:

Purely hypothetical, but should the boat be more needed elsewhere then they could have easily diverted. In fact it would possibly have been quicker as they'd have already been launched, crewed up and in the sea.

They could have been miles away in the opposite direction and in seas such as those, progress would be slow.

But equally they might have been much nearer!

Still, a good job they have two spare boats at Hastings then isn't it - plus additional boats located at Rye and Eastbourne, a few miles in either direction along the coast.

[Johnny Raydome]

rallycross said:

Johnny Raydome said:

If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price.

50 year storm bro’.

What an idiot for putting other people at risk due to his own stupidity.

Throws badge into the surf...

"He's not curming back"

[anonymous-user]

eharding said:

Andy20vt said:

eharding said:

Please, do stroll on....when was the last time we had these sort of conditions around UK coasts that he could have been "fairly experienced" in?

Fairly regularly throughout the winter. Although messy, those waves were small fry compared to the kind of stuff that regularly gets surfed.

In which case, how did your mate lose his equipment, drift several miles to shore and cause a lifeboat to be launched?

Frankly, I'm not sure who is the bigger idiot here. Your mate for causing this, or you trying to apologise for him.

Sorry I lost you at the 'idiot' bit. Perhaps stick to flying your model aeroplanes instead.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 10th February 01:26

[Ridgemont]

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

They may well be. The conditions for vessels on the other hand were not regular.

What would you class as 'regular' conditions?

Not storm force?

[Digby]

Andy20vt said:

The lifeboat chose to go and look for him - that was completely their choice, and an admirable one at that.

"The Coastguard helicopter, Hastings RNLI Lifeboat, Bexhill Coastguard Rescue Team and Ryde Bay Coastguard Rescue Team carried out the search for him."

There was more involved than just a boat. But then when a board appears and a body doesn't, what do you do?

They also tried four or five times to retrieve the boat on their return but had to abandon their attempts due to the conditions. It then had to divert to Eastbourne harbour.

Quite an expensive outing.

[anonymous-user]

Ridgemont said:

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

Likewise the RNLI is not there to be an assist when someone decides to do a little extreme sport. It’s there to save lives at the risk of their own life.
If you want to get a extreme sport support service eff off and pay for it.

Yes and your point is? Ironically the people who use the sea I know all regularly contribute a reasonable amount of money to the RNLI. They are one of the best funded charities out there.

My point should be obvious. This man put himself in stupid harms way. The RNLI is dedicated to rescuing such people and he was bloody lucky, but could have easily been a statistic tomorrow morning. A statistic the RNLI is there to keep as low as possible by intervening. That he chose to go out and then frankly by luck survived, while assists were scrambled (and pointlessly despite the obvious peril) is just double stupid. I have no idea why you are arguing this.

Because just because you can't comprehend someone being able to look after themselves in these conditions it doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who are able to cope perfectly well. Okay on this occasion things didn't go to plan for him and I'm sure he learned a lot from it but regardless no one put the RNLI in danger. They took that risk upon themselves.

[Digby]

Andy20vt said:

But equally they might have been much nearer!

Still, a good job they have two spare boats at Hastings then isn't it - plus additional boats located at Rye and Eastbourne, a few miles in either direction along the coast.

It's a good job the number of experienced surfers out losing their boards wasn't higher, yes.

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

Andy20vt said:

The lifeboat chose to go and look for him - that was completely their choice, and an admirable one at that.

"The Coastguard helicopter, Hastings RNLI Lifeboat, Bexhill Coastguard Rescue Team and Ryde Bay Coastguard Rescue Team carried out the search for him."

There was more involved than just a boat. But then when a board appears and a body doesn't, what do you do?

They also tried four or five times to retrieve the boat on their return but had to abandon their attempts due to the conditions. It then had to divert to Eastbourne harbour.

Quite an expensive outing.

And also a valuable coordination & training excersise for them all. These teams are well funded but they don't become experts by sitting indoors drinking tea, polishing their helicopter to keep it shiny, or only going out in nice conditions. You can rest assured that some very valuable lessons/experience will have been gained all round here and that the regions rescue teams will be all the stronger for it.

[eharding]

Andy20vt said:

no one put the RNLI in danger. They took that risk upon themselves.

Jesus wept.

Can you not understand that if your idiot mate had not decided to go out in these conditions today, then nobody else would have willingly airborne or on the water, and hence had to do so to try any find him?

Self-entitled, deluded 2@ doesn't even start to cover this one.

Edited by eharding on Monday 10th February 01:35

[anonymous-user]

Ridgemont said:

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

They may well be. The conditions for vessels on the other hand were not regular.

What would you class as 'regular' conditions?

Not storm force?

Can you equate that to wind speed/direction, wave size, surfer experience/ability, boat/equipment type/capability and swell direction please?

[anonymous-user]

eharding said:

Andy20vt said:

no one put the RNLI in danger. They took that risk upon themselves.

Jesus wept.

Can you not understand that if your idiot mate had not decided to go out in these conditions today, then nobody else would have willingly airborne or on the water try any find him?

Self-entitled, deluded 2@ doesn't even start to cover this one.

Can you not understand that if the lifeboat crew had not volunteered to become lifeboat crew then they would not have had to go out in tricky sea conditions? What did you think they expected when they signed up - to only to have to go to sea in calm, summer conditions?

[Digby]

Andy20vt said:

And also a valuable coordination & training excersise for them all. These teams are well funded but they don't become experts by sitting indoors drinking tea, polishing their helicopter to keep it shiny, or only going out in nice conditions. You can rest assured that some very valuable lessons/experience will have been gained all round here and that the regions rescue teams will be all the stronger for it.

Absolutely. A huge chunk of donators money was used up due to someone doing something stupid, despite being advised not to do something stupid. A valuable lesson indeed.

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

Andy20vt said:

And also a valuable coordination & training excersise for them all. These teams are well funded but they don't become experts by sitting indoors drinking tea, polishing their helicopter to keep it shiny, or only going out in nice conditions. You can rest assured that some very valuable lessons/experience will have been gained all round here and that the regions rescue teams will be all the stronger for it.

Absolutely. A huge chunk of donators money was used up due to someone doing something stupid, despite being advised not to do something stupid. A valuable lesson indeed.

If you'd bothered to read anything about this over and above your own opinions, you would find that the RNLI have received donations into the 10's of thousands directly as a result of the video of this incident being publicised.

[Ridgemont]

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

Andy20vt said:

Ridgemont said:

They may well be. The conditions for vessels on the other hand were not regular.

What would you class as 'regular' conditions?

Not storm force?

Can you equate that to wind speed/direction, wave size, surfer experience/ability, boat/equipment type/capability and swell direction please?

I don’t think I will. I’m out of this discussion: none of these parameters will predicate whether or not a lifeboat launches, unlike your fking idiotic mate, and that is the point.