Missing Woman Sarah Everard
Discussion
MrBarry123 said:
g4ry13 said:
Out of interest, why has this story got so much publicity when other people go missing and it doesn't make national news? Or is it a case that the media suspect this is going to end up in bad news soon?
I would assume because the disappearance of an attractive young white woman is viewed especially sympathetically by much of the public and therefore will inevitably attract additional interest.ETA: All of which is great news for media companies as increased interest in their content means more exposure and extra advertising revenue!
With a quick Google search I found an article that around 6 children (aged 16 or under) have been missing in London in the last 14 days. I've honestly not noticed any articles in the national press about them.
Joey Deacon said:
I admit I put it a bit strongly, but I stand by my theory that Sarah knew the (now named) accused policeman. Time will tell, I am sure the whole story will come out soon.
I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
Your theory, so-called, was actually this: I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
Joey Deacon said:
My gut feel is that she knew the policeman and I further suspect she was having sex with him.
Either she met him in some way through her everyday life or they met through Tinder or some sort of swinger site.
A fair bit more than "She knew the accused". Either she met him in some way through her everyday life or they met through Tinder or some sort of swinger site.
Nothing in your facts so far supports the idea she knew him, much less that she was in a relationship with him.
Your theory has about as much basis right now as a theory that she was abducted by aliens.
g4ry13 said:
Out of interest, why has this story got so much publicity when other people go missing and it doesn't make national news? Or is it a case that the media suspect this is going to end up in bad news soon?
White missing woman syndrome.Media companies are there to make money. Writing about black people being murdered or going missing doesn't generate the same level of interest from the UK public as this. Loads of people die in London all the time and you barely hear about it, unless the press decide to bother, and they only usually do that when its one of the 'one murder a day' type things, or they're on a london knife crime hype (usually a couple of times a year despite it being a problem all. the time), or it is VERY shocking case.
Point in question was a kid half knifed to death the other day, I was with 4 people who all live within a mile of it and none of them heard anything about it.
Edited by okgo on Wednesday 10th March 12:23
BlackWidow13 said:
Coming at this from a slightly different angle:
The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
That is a massive leap.The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
FWIW I dont think Joey's post is attributing any blame to the woman at all. He is making suppositions based on various facts, partly indisputable ones that most murder victims are known to their murderer, but also ones based on his own experiences, which are far more disputable!
But it is naiive to think the cops will not have already been down that road at some point long ago and may well still be on it.
This is a discussion board, i dont think anything he has said isnt anything many other people may be thinking (not me BTW, but i am open to others' opinions), and certainly he does not seem to be saying it is in anyway her fault.
As for the naming of the suspect, it's been out there for some time, just hit the mainstream press now. It's not perfect but in the age of twitter etc, hardly a surprise.
But it is naiive to think the cops will not have already been down that road at some point long ago and may well still be on it.
This is a discussion board, i dont think anything he has said isnt anything many other people may be thinking (not me BTW, but i am open to others' opinions), and certainly he does not seem to be saying it is in anyway her fault.
As for the naming of the suspect, it's been out there for some time, just hit the mainstream press now. It's not perfect but in the age of twitter etc, hardly a surprise.
g4ry13 said:
Sure, it's good news that people may be on the lookout and it helps the investigation.
With a quick Google search I found an article that around 6 children (aged 16 or under) have been missing in London in the last 14 days. I've honestly not noticed any articles in the national press about them.
I don’t think my post made it clear however I’m very cynical that the media provides the coverage with good intentions.With a quick Google search I found an article that around 6 children (aged 16 or under) have been missing in London in the last 14 days. I've honestly not noticed any articles in the national press about them.
As you say, many people go missing each week, some of whom are never found, and they never get the coverage seen here for this unfortunate lady.
The media pick and choose which news stories they think are likely to generate the most interest and therefore revenue. It is a completely self-serving decision.
ETA: Beaten to it again, this time by okgo.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Magog said:
I really really hate this naming of suspects before they have even been charged. IF the guy is not guilty then his life is effectively over. Once convicted, fine, name shame and crucify him, but just based on an arrest? No.Hopefully Sarah will be found safe and well.
I can understand the public's interest but it must be awful for fiends and family to see such images.
Especially when they're filming you stopping and calling in stuff that could be potential evidence.
Now that the detained, and as yet, innocent person, has not only been named, his home address and occupation been splashed across the media ... so has his image
This is highly irresponsible and could seriously undermine any subsequent criminal case against him/them if charged
Let’s just hope the case doesn’t rest on identification issues
The media fest could in fact obstruct justice, and prejudice a fair trial
This is highly irresponsible and could seriously undermine any subsequent criminal case against him/them if charged
Let’s just hope the case doesn’t rest on identification issues
The media fest could in fact obstruct justice, and prejudice a fair trial
poo at Paul's said:
FWIW I dont think Joey's post is attributing any blame to the woman at all. He is making suppositions based on various facts, partly indisputable ones that most murder victims are known to their murderer, but also ones based on his own experiences, which are far more disputable!
But it is naiive to think the cops will not have already been down that road at some point long ago and may well still be on it.
This is a discussion board, i dont think anything he has said isnt anything many other people may be thinking (not me BTW, but i am open to others' opinions), and certainly he does not seem to be saying it is in anyway her fault.
As for the naming of the suspect, it's been out there for some time, just hit the mainstream press now. It's not perfect but in the age of twitter etc, hardly a surprise.
Thank you, as you say I was not attributing blame to this woman at all, I certainly don't think she deserved anything bad happening to her. If the policeman is involved then the first thing the police are going to investigate is if he knew her and if so how.But it is naiive to think the cops will not have already been down that road at some point long ago and may well still be on it.
This is a discussion board, i dont think anything he has said isnt anything many other people may be thinking (not me BTW, but i am open to others' opinions), and certainly he does not seem to be saying it is in anyway her fault.
As for the naming of the suspect, it's been out there for some time, just hit the mainstream press now. It's not perfect but in the age of twitter etc, hardly a surprise.
I was just, as has been noted crudely coming up with a situation as to how they knew each other. As for the personal experience element, put it this way it would not be the first time I had heard of a woman contacting a couple where the man was a policeman through a lifestyle website.
berlintaxi said:
BlackWidow13 said:
Coming at this from a slightly different angle:
The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
That is a massive leap.The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
Edited by mick987 on Wednesday 10th March 12:49
berlintaxi said:
BlackWidow13 said:
Coming at this from a slightly different angle:
The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
That is a massive leap.The arrested man lives in Kent. The area around where he lives is being searched. His partner has also been arrested.
A plausible scenario is that the young woman was hit by the arrested man driving his car. He was up in town visiting friends, knows he ought not to have been, panics, bundles the body into his car and drives off.
Suspect identified as an armed officer working at the Palace of Westminster by The Sun.
Twitter reveals his wife's name, a quick Facestalk shows usual pictures of mundane family life with two kids.
Various theories abound. We'll know more when we know more.
Phone/BiB techies: two questons
1) if her phone went off abruptly, is it possible to determine all the other phones in close proximity to her at that time?
2) assuming the mobile backs up to the cloud (I think mine does daily) would it theoretically be possible to access the cloud data of a missing person, to determine their recent-ish online activity/things going on in their life?
As regards media coverage, attractive white women disappearance = lots of clicks = ad revenue (sadly). If the disappeared woman is not so easy on the eye they don't tend to bother so much.
Twitter reveals his wife's name, a quick Facestalk shows usual pictures of mundane family life with two kids.
Various theories abound. We'll know more when we know more.
Phone/BiB techies: two questons
1) if her phone went off abruptly, is it possible to determine all the other phones in close proximity to her at that time?
2) assuming the mobile backs up to the cloud (I think mine does daily) would it theoretically be possible to access the cloud data of a missing person, to determine their recent-ish online activity/things going on in their life?
As regards media coverage, attractive white women disappearance = lots of clicks = ad revenue (sadly). If the disappeared woman is not so easy on the eye they don't tend to bother so much.
BlackTails said:
Joey Deacon said:
I admit I put it a bit strongly, but I stand by my theory that Sarah knew the (now named) accused policeman. Time will tell, I am sure the whole story will come out soon.
I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
Your theory, so-called, was actually this: I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
Joey Deacon said:
My gut feel is that she knew the policeman and I further suspect she was having sex with him.
Either she met him in some way through her everyday life or they met through Tinder or some sort of swinger site.
A fair bit more than "She knew the accused". Either she met him in some way through her everyday life or they met through Tinder or some sort of swinger site.
Nothing in your facts so far supports the idea she knew him, much less that she was in a relationship with him.
Your theory has about as much basis right now as a theory that she was abducted by aliens.
Regarding his point 1. Above - the policemanofficer hasn’t been charged yet has he?
Having read most of this thread and joining the dots, I reckon he's a part-time yoga teacher and she was one of his students. He ran an illegal indoor class for 8 people not in his household and while she thought it was fine at the time, she realised that it was breaking the law and she was threatening to grass him up thus ruining his career both as a yoga teacher and a police officer unless he paid for her 200 hour yoga teacher training course. He arranged to meet her but brought his wife, who is also a yoga teacher, they kidnapped her and transported her to Rishikesh where she has been forced to endure a 5 year yoga retreat.
I reckon my guess is closest to the truth.
I reckon my guess is closest to the truth.
milkround said:
Assuming an iPhone and assuming find my iPhone is switched on (which is is automatically I think). Then they will know exactly what route she took and exactly where and at what time things went ‘odd’. Apple will release this info nearly immediately to the police in an emergency situation and have a 24 hour team to do so. (I was told that by apple when I was failing a phd in a related field).
Not true. Your the relevant mobile phone data (when not in possession of the handset) comes from the service provider, not the manufacturer.
Joey Deacon said:
I admit I put it a bit strongly, but I stand by my theory that Sarah knew the (now named) accused policeman. Time will tell, I am sure the whole story will come out soon.
I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
Nothing like guessing the facts... I guess the facts so far are.
1)A 48 year old policeman has been named and charged.
2)A woman who is believed to be the 48 year old policeman's partner has also been arrested for assisting an offender.
3)Her boyfriend is 33 and not a policeman.
4)The policeman lives in Kent.
5)Police are searching woods in Kent.
6)Sarah's last sighting was not on the common but on a busy road.
The policeman and his partner could have nothing to do with this at all, but clearly the police believe they have evidence.
If he'd have been charged then there'd be a press release, as one example.
Hoofy said:
Having read most of this thread and joining the dots, I reckon he's a part-time yoga teacher and she was one of his students. He ran an illegal indoor class for 8 people not in his household and while she thought it was fine at the time, she realised that it was breaking the law and she was threatening to grass him up thus ruining his career both as a yoga teacher and a police officer unless he paid for her 200 hour yoga teacher training course. He arranged to meet her but brought his wife, who is also a yoga teacher, they kidnapped her and transported her to Rishikesh where she has been forced to endure a 5 year yoga retreat.
I reckon my guess is closest to the truth.
I reckon my guess is closest to the truth.
No, no, has to have been a hit run as stated above. Why else would they be interested in his car?
"Shall we seize the suspects car?"
"Hmm, do you think he accidentally ran her over, then panicked and bundled her in it?"
"Not really, no"
"Well, let’s not bother looking at it then, I can’t think of any other reason why it may be pertinent to our investigations."
PurpleTurtle said:
Suspect identified as an armed officer working at the Palace of Westminster by The Sun.
Twitter reveals his wife's name, a quick Facestalk shows usual pictures of mundane family life with two kids.
Various theories abound. We'll know more when we know more.
Phone/BiB techies: two questons
1) if her phone went off abruptly, is it possible to determine all the other phones in close proximity to her at that time?
2) assuming the mobile backs up to the cloud (I think mine does daily) would it theoretically be possible to access the cloud data of a missing person, to determine their recent-ish online activity/things going on in their life?
As regards media coverage, attractive white women disappearance = lots of clicks = ad revenue (sadly). If the disappeared woman is not so easy on the eye they don't tend to bother so much.
There was massive coverage for the two black women murdered when walking home in London recently.Twitter reveals his wife's name, a quick Facestalk shows usual pictures of mundane family life with two kids.
Various theories abound. We'll know more when we know more.
Phone/BiB techies: two questons
1) if her phone went off abruptly, is it possible to determine all the other phones in close proximity to her at that time?
2) assuming the mobile backs up to the cloud (I think mine does daily) would it theoretically be possible to access the cloud data of a missing person, to determine their recent-ish online activity/things going on in their life?
As regards media coverage, attractive white women disappearance = lots of clicks = ad revenue (sadly). If the disappeared woman is not so easy on the eye they don't tend to bother so much.
Coverage for black (or any colour) youths stabbing each other over turf or dissing each other doesn't interest many people for lots of reasons.
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