Trapped Chilean miners found alive, but...

[The real Apache]

thinfourth2 said:

As an seafarer i must admit the amount of horror expressed about them being trapped for 4 months is pretty hard to belive after doing 5 months on a supertanker which can easily spend 6 months without even tieing up to land and even if you do get to tie up it is unlikely you will be allowed off.

Mind you the company who ran the ship did send us some magazines

Golf monthly, gardeners world and a hill walking magazine


bunch of s

mind you being stuck in a black hole with no sunlight would give me the heebs

[mrmr96]

thinfourth2 said:

As an seafarer i must admit the amount of horror expressed about them being trapped for 4 months is pretty hard to belive after doing 5 months on a supertanker which can easily spend 6 months without even tieing up to land and even if you do get to tie up it is unlikely you will be allowed off.

Its no where near the same. Everyone but you can see that - dont make me list the reasons.

[thinfourth2]

mrmr96 said:

thinfourth2 said:

As an seafarer i must admit the amount of horror expressed about them being trapped for 4 months is pretty hard to belive after doing 5 months on a supertanker which can easily spend 6 months without even tieing up to land and even if you do get to tie up it is unlikely you will be allowed off.

Its no where near the same. Everyone but you can see that - dont make me list the reasons.

Please do list them as i can't see a huge difference yes i have access to outside and sunlight but how about submariners. Please do tell me the huge differences.

I'm not saying being stuck down a mineshaft would be pleasant, well apart from escaping X-factor but i don't see it being hugely terrible

[Engineer1]

Tinforth the examples you list went to work on monday knowing they wouldn't be home for 6 months or so and signed up for that, also if the worst happened to any of their family there is a good chance they could be sent home. The miners went to work on a monday expecting to go home again at the end of their shift, not sit in a safety refuge for several months waiting for rescue.

[The real Apache]

thinfourth2 said:

i don't see it being hugely terrible

good grief, did you have toilets, a change of clothes, washing facilities, a canteen, food, distractions, and most of all the knowledge that you were not going to be left to die?

[Killer2005]

Appears the rescue shaft has reached the miners

[anonymous-user]

can you imagine being the last man left and waiting for that rescue pod to come back down?....i hope that the shift leader writes a book about the ordeal because its going to be fascinating

[cqueen]

I can't wait to see the first (and last) one out. What a moment for them.

I had a similar experience once, - I lived in Swansea for a year.

But this is worse.

[Vipers]

I understand that the diameter of the rescue cage is only big enough for one, but why not weld another above it, then rescue two at a time?

[ewenm]

Vipers said:

I understand that the diameter of the rescue cage is only big enough for one, but why not weld another above it, then rescue two at a time?

Baggsy not being the bottom one when the top rescuee gets scared!

[Ross1988]

cqueen said:

I can't wait to see the first (and last) one out. What a moment for them.

I had a similar experience once, - I lived in Swansea for a year.

But this is worse.

I'm not so sure. I passed through there once on a train.

[cqueen]

Vipers said:

I understand that the diameter of the rescue cage is only big enough for one, but why not weld another above it, then rescue two at a time?

Why go add all that extra engineering/risk for the sake of speeding up the final moment by a few hours?

[Vipers]

cqueen said:

Vipers said:

I understand that the diameter of the rescue cage is only big enough for one, but why not weld another above it, then rescue two at a time?

Why go add all that extra engineering/risk for the sake of speeding up the final moment by a few hours?

With the engineering correctly done, no probs, it would shorten the rescue by 50%, but there is obvious reasons I guess.

[cqueen]

Vipers said:

With the engineering correctly done, no probs, it would shorten the rescue by 50%, but there is obvious reasons I guess.

If it were my dad/relative down there I would want this to be as straight forward as possible - no need for complications (this is not an easy operation remember!) and your sugguestion would only shorten the last day of resuce by 50%. They've been in there over 2 months, they can wait another 10 hours.

Edited by cqueen on Saturday 9th October 21:37

[AndrewW-G]

Vipers said:

I understand that the diameter of the rescue cage is only big enough for one, but why not weld another above it, then rescue two at a time?

It’s designed so that if the cage gets stuck, the occupant can lower himself out of the bottom

[cqueen]

AndrewW-G said:

It’s designed so that if the cage gets stuck, the occupant can lower himself out of the bottom

Ah yes I remember hearing that somewhere. Where exactly is he going to lower himself to? or is there a 700m winch on the on the cage?

[ewenm]

cqueen said:

AndrewW-G said:

It’s designed so that if the cage gets stuck, the occupant can lower himself out of the bottom

Ah yes I remember hearing that somewhere. Where exactly is he going to lower himself to? or is there a 700m winch on the on the cage?

Cage probably runs on a fixed wire or two...

[perdu]

It was an incredible picture to see the main drill breaking into their shaft today

And yes this is massively different to being in a sub

[Vipers]

Latest from the BBC

The evacuation of 33 miners trapped underground in Chile is likely to start on Wednesday, the country's mining minister says

[Parsnip]

The thing that made me smile was the bbc report which stated "all of the miners will be given special glasses to protect their eyes from the sun" So sunglasses then?