Uk Goverment to block Internet porn by default
Discussion
Bing o said:
I personally wouldn't hold too much truck with a very vague article - nothing wrong with consulting over how to make things safer for kids. With this government we'll no doubt see a damp squib of a suggestion, followed by a back track at some point.
So; Deal with real dangers like faith schools and processed foods...
fluffnik said:
Bing o said:
I personally wouldn't hold too much truck with a very vague article - nothing wrong with consulting over how to make things safer for kids. With this government we'll no doubt see a damp squib of a suggestion, followed by a back track at some point.
So; Deal with real dangers like faith schools and processed foods...
V88Dicky said:
I'm going to be completely honest here and say, I couldn't give a f
k if the internet shut down tomorrow. I preferred it when you couldn't instantly uaccess information at the flick of a mouse, very liberating. Likewise mobile phones.
Is the internet any good for anything other than watching porn and getting free music?
Honestly?
Free Motoring Advice?k if the internet shut down tomorrow. I preferred it when you couldn't instantly uaccess information at the flick of a mouse, very liberating. Likewise mobile phones.Is the internet any good for anything other than watching porn and getting free music?
Honestly?
YouTube?
Ebay?
Online Shopping?
Google Earth/Maps?
etc etc etc
I can see the argument, but I think it would be better to have an "opt-in block", although that would mean wifey ringing up to block it so little Timmy cant see naughty pictures and the husband becoming so sexually frustrated he has an affair/turns into a transvestite, leading to divorce, which could be more damaging to little Timmy.....
It might also lead to pressure to share "Picture messages" in school between teenage lads, and for girls to send "Picture Messages" rather than lads just downloading porn, leading to further problems for girls, depression etc....
Oh and what about file sharing sites, they share porn, although they are getting closed down at a fair old lick...
Proxy Sites to avoid, sharing of CD's in schools/Colleges/Work...
I might start downloading now to cash in on the future block.
I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about to be honest. The government isn't going to stop any adult from looking at porn if that's what you want (and personally, I do!). It's a removable filter, not full-on censorship.
And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
What pissed me off the most about this was the reasoning. A "concerned parent" was wheeled out on the BBC complaining that it was impossible to block the websites at their computer.
I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
davepoth said:
What pissed me off the most about this was the reasoning. A "concerned parent" was wheeled out on the BBC complaining that it was impossible to block the websites at their computer.
I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
Indeed. Apparently there is free software available to download from the internet which allows you to block adult content. I guess it becomes more difficult when there are multiple ways of accessing the internet beyond your home PC (phones, i-pads, Blackberrys, etc).I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
lauda said:
I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about to be honest. The government isn't going to stop any adult from looking at porn if that's what you want (and personally, I do!). It's a removable filter, not full-on censorship.
And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
My problem with it is that it won't work and they'll likely piss a bunch of public money up the wall finding this out for themselves. If people don't want their kids looking at porn they should sort out their own filters. They won't work either for half way bright kids but at least they won't cost me money.And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
lauda said:
davepoth said:
What pissed me off the most about this was the reasoning. A "concerned parent" was wheeled out on the BBC complaining that it was impossible to block the websites at their computer.
I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
Indeed. Apparently there is free software available to download from the internet which allows you to block adult content. I guess it becomes more difficult when there are multiple ways of accessing the internet beyond your home PC (phones, i-pads, Blackberrys, etc).I was thinking to myself - "so you let your 10 year old use the internet without supervision? would you let your child loose in the newsagent with one of those wheeled stepladders so they could get to the top shelf?"
Abdication of responsibility again. Grr.
Now, in this PC world (pardon the pun), people don't have to expect to take personal responsibility as they have been educated for the last 13 years that the Government is responsible for them.
As for phones, and stuff, how about parents take the phones off their kids after a certain time? Damn, it's that personal responsibility thing again.
hairykrishna said:
lauda said:
I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about to be honest. The government isn't going to stop any adult from looking at porn if that's what you want (and personally, I do!). It's a removable filter, not full-on censorship.
And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
My problem with it is that it won't work and they'll likely piss a bunch of public money up the wall finding this out for themselves. If people don't want their kids looking at porn they should sort out their own filters. They won't work either for half way bright kids but at least they won't cost me money.And to be honest, I think the ease of availablility of hardcore porn on the internet probably isn't doing much good for kids' understanding of what a real sexual relationship is like. There was an article in the Sunday Times yesterday looking at the impact of porn on kids and teenagers and there does seem to be some fairly convincing evidence that early exposure is normalising some quite 'niche' behaviour and practices. As with a lot of other things (films generally and videogames), a child's ability to assess porn within the context of broader social norms is less well developed than an adults.
Would anyone here really propose the removal of age ratings for other films, or is it ok for a 10 year old kid to watch Saw? Unfortunately, most porn is consumed via the internet and that is much more difficult to regulate than over the counter DVD sales or entry to a cinema. Therefore whilst the proposal may seem intrusive, ultimately it doesn't limit any adults freedom to access porn on the internet and may help to keep unsuitable, and potentially harmful, material away from kids. So I really don't have a problem with it.
Having said that, some parents should perhaps take a bit more responsibility for what their kids look at on the internet.
And by the way, I know next to nothing about computers so am more than happy to be corrected if it is much more complicated than that!
lauda said:
I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about to be honest. The government isn't going to stop any adult from looking at porn if that's what you want (and personally, I do!). It's a removable filter, not full-on censorship.
The fuss is about being treated like fking children and the possibility of having to call your fking ISP cap in hand "Please sir, I want some porn".f
k that. It should be an opt in system, not opt out. If parents want to block the internet, they should have to take action themselves, not treat the entire nation like fking children.
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