Winky and Bliar not invited to wedding. Thatcher and Major are.
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JonRB said:
off_again said:
As for Brown - he didnt get elected anyway
We don't have Presidential-style elections in the UK. You vote for the party, not for the leader; no Prime Minister has ever been elected. The voting public never had the opportunity to cast their judgement on clown.
tinman0 said:
So Blair gatecrashes 2 Royal funerals and promotes himself unmercifully, and he suddenly expects to be invited to a Royal wedding?
As for Brown, probably best we write him out of history.
This, 100%As for Brown, probably best we write him out of history.
When the media was in heat over Lady Diana's, Princess of Wales death - he somehow made himself media spokesman for the entire event.
Both Blair and Brown can f
k off and die quietly.DJRC said:
No I think you might find that is Brown. Blair won 3 elections.
Brown will go down in history as the most disliked and disastrous Prime Minister in history.
Whereas TB could easily go down as possibly the most evil. Winky was disastrous but that was easily explained by personal incompetence, whereas Lynton could probably give Beezlebub a genuine understanding of jealousy.Brown will go down in history as the most disliked and disastrous Prime Minister in history.
Then there's Cherry - Posh Twig without even a hint of reasonable attractiveness (with sufficient direction, of course). Camilla Rum must have been gutted upon reading the guest list.
phil-sti said:
The royal are most of our history. i like the fact we have a royal family, it reinforces the "Great" in great britain.
I love all the history of our kings and queens, how they link with royal families from europe, the tudors, the war of the roses, queen victoria.
our history is what make us different.
]I love all the history of our kings and queens, how they link with royal families from europe, the tudors, the war of the roses, queen victoria.
our history is what make us different.
Couldn't agree more..
thinfourth2 said:
No brown will simply be forgotten.
He wont. He will be mentioned in every history book that talks about British Prime Ministers and British politics. He was simply the fulcrum of too many "bad things" to ever be forgotton about. History will also make him the scapegoat for every disaster of the entire Labour govt over 13 years.Gordon Brown will never be forgotton, history will crucify him for generations.
That that is his legacy keeps me warm at night.
Busa_Rush said:
elster said:
If you really think that William chose people on the guest list you are clueless.
It has nothing to do with being a Labour PM.
Major & Thatcher are members of the Order of the Garter.
Major was William & Harry's guardian.
Blair is none of the above.
The current political leaders are there as they are the current government and opposition.
Bliar is about the most unpopular politician we've had in living memory. Hell, he's about the most unpopular person we've had full stop.It has nothing to do with being a Labour PM.
Major & Thatcher are members of the Order of the Garter.
Major was William & Harry's guardian.
Blair is none of the above.
The current political leaders are there as they are the current government and opposition.
I suspect the Telegraph blog is only the tip of the iceberg. If the country hates him with the passion it does then why should the Royal family be any different ?
thinfourth2 said:
No brown will simply be forgotten.
I sincerely hope that neither will be forgotten. One is almost certainly a perfect example of evil and the other a perfect example of desperate, wretched ambition outweighing any form of ability combined with deep seated self loathing. No. Such creatures must not be buried and forgotten but retained as examples of what can happen in society.
Gogoplata said:
Exactly, I keep on hearing the argument that they bring in more revenue than it costs to keep them, but I've not seen any reliable figures to back this argument up.
Cost of monarchy = c£40m
Income from Crown estates = £200m
£160m profit, ignoring any tourist related income.
The crown estate is owned by the monarch and the income is voluntarily given to the state in exchange for the civil list
ClintonB said:
Whereas TB could easily go down as possibly the most evil. Winky was disastrous but that was easily explained by personal incompetence, whereas Lynton could probably give Beezlebub a genuine understanding of jealousy.
Then there's Cherry - Posh Twig without even a hint of reasonable attractiveness (with sufficient direction, of course). Camilla Rum must have been gutted upon reading the guest list.
And yet, even after 13 years of "evilness" and "incompetence" the Tories still couldn't achieve an electoral majority.Then there's Cherry - Posh Twig without even a hint of reasonable attractiveness (with sufficient direction, of course). Camilla Rum must have been gutted upon reading the guest list.
Indeed. Very frightening to see that hooking as many people into welfare, employing as many people as possible in the State and opening the doors to key immigrants and furnishing them with plenty of money very nearly worked in keeping them in power.
If the money and the debt hadn't run out then we would never have shifted them.
But then the history books show us that this is how it always is.
Half this country will always vote Labour regardless. And the rest can be bought for a few pieces of silver of just the promise.
I do suspect that many are waiting for a new party to appear as you seem to het the feeling that a large number of people only vote for a party reluctantly or because they really can't stand the others. Not because they actually believe in that party.
If the money and the debt hadn't run out then we would never have shifted them.
But then the history books show us that this is how it always is.
Half this country will always vote Labour regardless. And the rest can be bought for a few pieces of silver of just the promise.
I do suspect that many are waiting for a new party to appear as you seem to het the feeling that a large number of people only vote for a party reluctantly or because they really can't stand the others. Not because they actually believe in that party.
turbobloke said:
JonRB said:
chris watton said:
I think the stupid and unsustainable size of the public sector would go a long way to explain that....
And also the Gerrymandering that Labour did on the Electoral boundaries. 
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