Election 2019

[Nickgnome]

voyds9 said:

I am willing to give a living wage if the government will drop my taxes by an equal amount
(and the government should then be better of as I've paid the wage and they haven't had to do the paperwork etc).

Exactly. It’s not difficult.


BUT the government will not be seen to help the working person so no political kudos.

[Sway]

R Mutt said:

Interesting the figure of 88% of Tory ads being misleading v zero Labour but how do you classify this ad on Facebook?

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This is an emergency. To boot out the Tories, vote tactically for the candidate with the best chance of beating them.

Or this one (where both claims are flat out false):

[Nickgnome]

R Mutt said:

Interesting the figure of 88% of Tory ads being misleading v zero Labour but how do you classify this ad on Facebook?

InFacts
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This is an emergency. To boot out the Tories, vote tactically for the candidate with the best chance of beating them.

Are you surprised?

Most voters have neither the time or will to carry out some validation of statements.

Even if they do where will they look?

[Nickgnome]

Sway said:

Or this one (where both claims are flat out false):

The analysis I heard what that Labour had conflated lots of different potential savings and there would be a few families who could end up aligning with the claim.

However the vast majority of families would not.

Perhaps false claims should attract a penalty or better still not be allowed to be posted without a fact check by a couple of independent bodies.

[otolith]

Nickgnome said:

The analysis I heard what that Labour had conflated lots of different potential savings and there would be a few families who could end up aligning with the claim.

They also mixed up inflation adjusted and flat figures as convenient.

[Earthdweller]

Holy st .. local fb feeds are going batst mental tonight !

Apparently Corbyn brought peace to NI, and is saviour of the world !

I pointed out to one poster that 15 Labour MP’s have said Corbyn is unfit to lead and this is the reply ..

“15 former labour is working with Zionist obviously. Shame on 15 mp's.
I'm very much support corbyn. None of this will change my mind at all.
you fail”

Then I got ...

Yes , but Maggie Thatcher was a good friend & supporter of general Pinochet of chilly . Now there's a traditional tyrant. Corbin went on to negatiote a peace treaty with the IRA & ever since we haven't had to send any more soldiers over to N.I. to been blown to bits or have the IRA come over here blowing us up. If BoJo gets in & renages on the 'no border' deal that he probably will then it's back to square one .

On pointing out Corbyn had nothing to do with GFA

I got ...

“ I support Labour but not zionist.
Go fk yourself
You Islamophobia yourself u fkwit
Simple answer

far far less evil than 2 = tory/ liberal so im voting labour, it'll big difference to the homeless and children, adult, workers, they only target the billionaire, NOT YOU! get it?!”

It’s really is a batst mental world out there .. and even worse these people have a vote

[Earthdweller]

I’m staying on here from now on ...

We may have different views but not bat st mental ones

And these people are going to decide our future !!

Edited by Earthdweller on Wednesday 11th December 19:36

[Digga]

Nickgnome said:

otolith said:

We operate in the system we have. We vote for the system we want. Lots of people appear to want a system in which the range and quantity of free stuff is improved by means of other people paying more tax. If you asked them whether the range and quantity of free stuff available should be improved by them paying more tax, you might find that it's not quite as popular.

Unfortunately that’s never changes. The political parties want to be sen as our benevolent masters. They are politically dishonest.

To admit that our system of tax and benefits across business and the public need a huge overhaul would scare most.

We have an unsustainable state pension system and care system but will any of them actually take it on. Probably not in my lifetime.

One of the elephants in the room for the UK economy is productivity. My take on this is that government, in general, and collectively, is far too short-term to encourage our firms to invest as they do overseas, this is a problem which impacts remuneration.

[anonymous-user]

Earthdweller said:

I’m staying on here from now on ...

We may have different views but not bar st mental ones

And these people are going to decide our future !!

You have to admire Momentum's massive spam and control of google content to the hard of thinking, unfortunately a majority will believe it

[booboise blueboys]

IanH755 said:

vaud said:

Breaking news: Tory activist attacked with acid in Barnet

https://order-order.com/2019/12/11/tory-activist-a...

Apologies for single source, can't see any other reporting yet so caveated.

Not acid as originally thought but perfume according to Conservative Committee HQ as reported in Daily Mail just.

Tories start melting if they come in to contact with a bit of perfume? Hahaha. Says a lot about their personal hygiene I think and probably why they support a leader who looks like he has just crawled out of a sewer.

But seriously, this Tory activist may have just stank and a member of the public was giving a helping hand? Nothing to see here.

[vaud]

booboise blueboys said:

Tories start melting if they come in to contact with a bit of perfume? Hahaha. Says a lot about their personal hygiene I think and probably why they support a leader who looks like he has just crawled out of a sewer.

But seriously, this Tory activist may have just stank and a member of the public was giving a helping hand? Nothing to see here.

Or you could try a balanced post.

To be fair, if you squirt perfume (if that is what it is) in your eyes, it frickin well hurts! Either way, and whichever party you follow, it is assault.

[Earthdweller]

digimeistter said:

You have to admire Momentum's massive spam and control of google content to the hard of thinking, unfortunately a majority will believe it

I don’t admire them .. the potential outcome mildly terrifies me

[Jordan210]

Cant believe people have been calling 999 to report Laura Kuenssberg.

Some of the abuse she gets is vile. Yet its ok according to some people.

[booboise blueboys]

Jordan210 said:

Cant believe people have been calling 999 to report Laura Kuenssberg.

Oh dear. Has she been spraying perfume in the vicinity of a Tory?

[Sway]

Digga said:

Nickgnome said:

otolith said:

We operate in the system we have. We vote for the system we want. Lots of people appear to want a system in which the range and quantity of free stuff is improved by means of other people paying more tax. If you asked them whether the range and quantity of free stuff available should be improved by them paying more tax, you might find that it's not quite as popular.

Unfortunately that’s never changes. The political parties want to be sen as our benevolent masters. They are politically dishonest.

To admit that our system of tax and benefits across business and the public need a huge overhaul would scare most.

We have an unsustainable state pension system and care system but will any of them actually take it on. Probably not in my lifetime.

One of the elephants in the room for the UK economy is productivity. My take on this is that government, in general, and collectively, is far too short-term to encourage our firms to invest as they do overseas, this is a problem which impacts remuneration.

Agreed.

It would seem simplistic to reward companies driving improvements in efficiency through a tax relief on Corp tax... But I'd like to see it tried.

[booboise blueboys]

vaud said:

booboise blueboys said:

Tories start melting if they come in to contact with a bit of perfume? Hahaha. Says a lot about their personal hygiene I think and probably why they support a leader who looks like he has just crawled out of a sewer.

But seriously, this Tory activist may have just stank and a member of the public was giving a helping hand? Nothing to see here.

Or you could try a balanced post.

To be fair, if you squirt perfume (if that is what it is) in your eyes, it frickin well hurts! Either way, and whichever party you follow, it is assault.

Come off it. Just another desperate attempt from them to blame the opposition and make things up.

“ The campaigner was shocked and in pain at the time so attended a police station.”

So shocked and in pain from perfume he went straight to a police station rather than a hospital? haha.

[Halb]

Jordan210 said:

Cant believe people have been calling 999 to report Laura Kuenssberg.

Some of the abuse she gets is vile. Yet its ok according to some people.

whhhhaaa?

[pingu393]

Halb said:

Just realised Nadhim Zahawi reminds me of the Shop Keeper from Mr Benn.

Well spotted...

If Mr Johnson pops into the changing room will he come out of the front door of No 10?

[98elise]

booboise blueboys said:

IanH755 said:

vaud said:

Breaking news: Tory activist attacked with acid in Barnet

https://order-order.com/2019/12/11/tory-activist-a...

Apologies for single source, can't see any other reporting yet so caveated.

Not acid as originally thought but perfume according to Conservative Committee HQ as reported in Daily Mail just.

Tories start melting if they come in to contact with a bit of perfume? Hahaha. Says a lot about their personal hygiene I think and probably why they support a leader who looks like he has just crawled out of a sewer.

But seriously, this Tory activist may have just stank and a member of the public was giving a helping hand? Nothing to see here.

Please please stay around tomorrow to collect your second place badge

Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 11th December 19:58

[pequod]

Earthdweller said:

Holy st .. local fb feeds are going batst mental tonight !

Apparently Corbyn brought peace to NI, and is saviour of the world !

I pointed out to one poster that 15 Labour MP’s have said Corbyn is unfit to lead and this is the reply ..

“15 former labour is working with Zionist obviously. Shame on 15 mp's.
I'm very much support corbyn. None of this will change my mind at all.
you fail”

Then I got ...

Yes , but Maggie Thatcher was a good friend & supporter of general Pinochet of chilly . Now there's a traditional tyrant. Corbin went on to negatiote a peace treaty with the IRA & ever since we haven't had to send any more soldiers over to N.I. to been blown to bits or have the IRA come over here blowing us up. If BoJo gets in & renages on the 'no border' deal that he probably will then it's back to square one .

On pointing out Corbyn had nothing to do with GFA

I got ...

“ I support Labour but not zionist.
Go fk yourself
You Islamophobia yourself u fkwit
Simple answer

far far less evil than 2 = tory/ liberal so im voting labour, it'll big difference to the homeless and children, adult, workers, they only target the billionaire, NOT YOU! get it?!”

It’s really is a batst mental world out there .. and even worse these people have a vote

I thought you were more sensible that to take any notice of 'kids' on social media winding up the adults? Must you re-post their nonsense on here?