How many have been vaccinated so far?

[EddieSteadyGo]

andrewh said:

s2kjock said:

Meanwhile, for viewers in Scotland, who only get invited to their vaccinations by a personal letter in a blue envelope from our glorious leader, 48 year olds have still received no notification of their appointments.

Perhaps there is considered to be a lower risk in scotland of contracting the virus so supplies are rationed accordingly?

Hardly. Doses given to each country are about the same. And prevalence is higher in Scotland (although still low).

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/13880992...

[rover 623gsi]

https://mobile.twitter.com/HugoGye/status/13881172...

Numbers still going strong

Almost 600k yesterday

[Matt..]

EddieSteadyGo said:

Each country has received pretty much the same amount of doses, based on their population. However, there is a decision to be made about how much buffer stock to hold back for 2nd doses. Wales are running down their buffer stock to a very low level - this is why they have been able to get further ahead with 1st doses.

The suggestion is that Wales know that, if the st hit the fan and they ran out of 2nd doses for some reason, they can probably look to England to bail them out. Hence why they can be more aggressive in their attitude to running a risk with the buffer stock. Whereas England probably need to be much more prudent.

If you’re taking that view then you should look at how Wales changed to second doses much earlier than other nations. It then has gone back to first/second doses being more equal.

Look at the graphs that clearly show this.

Wales failed badly at the start of the vaccine rollout but has been doing well since late February.

[spikeyhead]

65% of adults have now had their first jab, and 27.6 their second

[EddieSteadyGo]

Matt.. said:

EddieSteadyGo said:

Each country has received pretty much the same amount of doses, based on their population. However, there is a decision to be made about how much buffer stock to hold back for 2nd doses. Wales are running down their buffer stock to a very low level - this is why they have been able to get further ahead with 1st doses.

The suggestion is that Wales know that, if the st hit the fan and they ran out of 2nd doses for some reason, they can probably look to England to bail them out. Hence why they can be more aggressive in their attitude to running a risk with the buffer stock. Whereas England probably need to be much more prudent.

If you’re taking that view then you should look at how Wales changed to second doses much earlier than other nations. It then has gone back to first/second doses being more equal.

Look at the graphs that clearly show this.

Wales failed badly at the start of the vaccine rollout but has been doing well since late February.

I wasn't really giving a view on whether it was a good idea or not. I was just saying, the reason they are further ahead on 1st doses is because they are dipping into their buffer stock.

[Brave Fart]

Mrs BF and I have today had our invites for the second dose. We've booked them, and it'll be eleven weeks after the first injection. We're late 50's and in Hampshire.
At this rate, I'd have thought there won't be many UK adults remaining on June 21st who haven't had at least the first dose.

[zoom star]

My son had an invite for his vaccination for next week, here in Wales,
he's 29 fit and healthy.
My wife emailed declining the offer on his behalf.
He had his a month ago, he lives in Dubai.
His job is within the airline industry, and involves a lot of flying.
He told me it's going to be the norm for travelling international.
I saw on the wales online, that 20 percent 19-29 year olds in Wales have had a first jab.

[sim72]

Brave Fart said:

Mrs BF and I have today had our invites for the second dose. We've booked them, and it'll be eleven weeks after the first injection. We're late 50's and in Hampshire.
At this rate, I'd have thought there won't be many UK adults remaining on June 21st who haven't had at least the first dose.

27% of under-45s had already had the first jab before they opened it up to 40-44, so the number to be done is going to be smaller than earlier in the sequence, although of course there is that concentration on 2nd jabs at the moment.

[spikeyhead]

Today's jabs

First second total
129,657 405,456 535,113

[MG CHRIS]

I've had my invite arrive today for 17th may very surprised it come this early tbh. 28 with no health conditions in the South Wales area I was expecting mid June to July looks like they are confident of supply in the coming weeks.

[youngsyr]

With daily hospital admissions, positive tests and deaths now at incredibly low levels, it seems to me that waiting another 6 weeks to remove all restrictions is massively over cautious. These restrictions are hurting our population and the numbers can't possibly get much lower.

[youngsyr]

spikeyhead said:

Today's jabs

First second total
129,657 405,456 535,113

Happy to say I'm one of the 129,657 first doses!

[youngsyr]

youngsyr said:

With daily hospital admissions, positive tests and deaths now at incredibly low levels, it seems to me that waiting another 6 weeks to remove all restrictions is massively over cautious. These restrictions are hurting our population and the numbers can't possibly get much lower.

This is also very telling - we have been experiencing fewer deaths than expected at this time of year for over a month now...

[Vanden Saab]

youngsyr said:

With daily hospital admissions, positive tests and deaths now at incredibly low levels, it seems to me that waiting another 6 weeks to remove all restrictions is massively over cautious. These restrictions are hurting our population and the numbers can't possibly get much lower.

I agree... but... the top 9 priority groups which account for 99% of hospitalisations and deaths will be fully vaccinated by the 1st June. The 21st is three weeks after this. By the 21st of June most of the rest of the population will have had their first dose too. While I personally think it should be quicker I really think that if I was in charge and had seen 100,000 Covid deaths already and knowing full well that another lockdown would be completely devastating and largely ignored, I would follow the same path.

[spikeyhead]

I'm sure they're determined to stay the safe side of the line. My gut feel is that they're perhaps about two weeks later than they need to be, but I've got far too much other stuff that's important to me than worry about than an extra two weeks of restrictions.

[Matt..]

MG CHRIS said:

I've had my invite arrive today for 17th may very surprised it come this early tbh. 28 with no health conditions in the South Wales area I was expecting mid June to July looks like they are confident of supply in the coming weeks.

If you're Cardiff and Vale they're into the mid 20s now.

[saaby93]

youngsyr said:

This is also very telling - we have been experiencing fewer deaths than expected at this time of year for over a month now...

Have the expected deaths occurred early due to the virus?

[Vasco]

Vanden Saab said:

youngsyr said:

With daily hospital admissions, positive tests and deaths now at incredibly low levels, it seems to me that waiting another 6 weeks to remove all restrictions is massively over cautious. These restrictions are hurting our population and the numbers can't possibly get much lower.

I agree... but... the top 9 priority groups which account for 99% of hospitalisations and deaths will be fully vaccinated by the 1st June. The 21st is three weeks after this. By the 21st of June most of the rest of the population will have had their first dose too. While I personally think it should be quicker I really think that if I was in charge and had seen 100,000 Covid deaths already and knowing full well that another lockdown would be completely devastating and largely ignored, I would follow the same path.

Absolutely, patience is a virtue.

[isaldiri]

Vanden Saab said:

I agree... but... the top 9 priority groups which account for 99% of hospitalisations and deaths will be fully vaccinated by the 1st June. The 21st is three weeks after this. By the 21st of June most of the rest of the population will have had their first dose too. While I personally think it should be quicker I really think that if I was in charge and had seen 100,000 Covid deaths already and knowing full well that another lockdown would be completely devastating and largely ignored, I would follow the same path.

1st doses provide most of the overall protection. the marginal improvement over the 1st dose from the 2nd doses at this point with very low numbers of cases and transmission still reduced from being within the window where vaccination still likely has a strong effect is not so clearly worth the disruption and negative impact on people's lives any longer.

[spikeyhead]

saaby93 said:

youngsyr said:

This is also very telling - we have been experiencing fewer deaths than expected at this time of year for over a month now...

Have the expected deaths occurred early due to the virus?

It's far more likely to be due to very low flu levels, and lower traffic and hence pollution levels than the low hanging fruit falling early.