How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 10)
Discussion
mike9009 said:
NoNeed said:
digimeistter said:
They've gone very quiet, maybe they realise?
It is a question that can't be answered as there is nothing good about the EU that actually requires a political union, they also struggle with what does remain mean? is it more of the same? closer integration? a completely reformed EU that nobody knows what it will look like? what other countries will join in the next couple of generations and how much of a strain on our resources will it be.christian-ohtc3 said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
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Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
That sounds like a Nazi party quote not something we should hear from a current politician Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
If you think that I fear you've lost any sense of perspective.
GTEYE said:
Or is the alternative “Little Britain”....?
I really hope we can move past this nightmare, TM has to be gone in a week and perhaps a new plan for Brexit can form.
Only people like you (remainer) looks from a negative to another negative.I really hope we can move past this nightmare, TM has to be gone in a week and perhaps a new plan for Brexit can form.
Leavers want to join THE WORLD not hide inside and be assimilated.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Guy Verhofstadt 
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Russia will destroy the European Union, according to a chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels.
Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
The former Belgian Prime Minister, 66, compared Boris Johnson to France's Marine Le Pen, as he emerged as the favourite to replace Theresa May.
Mr Verhofstadt slammed his regular European Parliament enemy Nigel Farage, claiming he secretly doesn't want Brexit to happen as it would make him irrelevant.
His scathing attack also included accusations that Russia has been manipulating the European elections - 'like they did with the Brexit referendum'.
Well. it appears it's not just the Remainers here that are in 'meltdown'.Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Russia will destroy the European Union, according to a chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels.
Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
The former Belgian Prime Minister, 66, compared Boris Johnson to France's Marine Le Pen, as he emerged as the favourite to replace Theresa May.
Mr Verhofstadt slammed his regular European Parliament enemy Nigel Farage, claiming he secretly doesn't want Brexit to happen as it would make him irrelevant.
His scathing attack also included accusations that Russia has been manipulating the European elections - 'like they did with the Brexit referendum'.
Is GV slowly getting there? It appears that he wants the populist movements to have a new vision - a step in the right direction but still it appears to him that it's everybody else's fault not the EU's! All he (and his chums) need to do now is accept that this will only happen if the EU reforms its ways. Can they/will they do that before it's all too late?
Garvin said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Guy Verhofstadt
Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Russia will destroy the European Union, according to a chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels.
Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
The former Belgian Prime Minister, 66, compared Boris Johnson to France's Marine Le Pen, as he emerged as the favourite to replace Theresa May.
Mr Verhofstadt slammed his regular European Parliament enemy Nigel Farage, claiming he secretly doesn't want Brexit to happen as it would make him irrelevant.
His scathing attack also included accusations that Russia has been manipulating the European elections - 'like they did with the Brexit referendum'.
Well. it appears it's not just the Remainers here that are in 'meltdown'.Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Russia will destroy the European Union, according to a chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels.
Guy Verhofstadt has told The Times the rise of populism and the far-right could bring down the Union by 2024 if they cannot be replaced by a 'new vision of the EU'.
The former Belgian Prime Minister, 66, compared Boris Johnson to France's Marine Le Pen, as he emerged as the favourite to replace Theresa May.
Mr Verhofstadt slammed his regular European Parliament enemy Nigel Farage, claiming he secretly doesn't want Brexit to happen as it would make him irrelevant.
His scathing attack also included accusations that Russia has been manipulating the European elections - 'like they did with the Brexit referendum'.
Is GV slowly getting there? It appears that he wants the populist movements to have a new vision - a step in the right direction but still it appears to him that it's everybody else's fault not the EU's! All he (and his chums) need to do now is accept that this will only happen if the EU reforms its ways. Can they/will they do that before it's all too late?
Squiddly Diddly said:
digimeistter said:
I have yet to hear any positives FOR staying in the EU?
The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
I suspect it does not matter what people stated, you would not accept them as a positive.The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
One of my closest friends is a massive remain supporter. I asked him for some positives but all he could do was focus on the speculation/unknowns of leaving. He just quoted all the soundbites round project fear. The impression I got was that he was frightened of change, and I get that.
I then explained why I voted leave and he understood my justification.
It was all very boring and civilised with no milkshakes in sight and I wasn't throwing a beer away. Neither of us changed our opinions but I was slightly disappointed in his lack of reasoning when I openly asked him.
Hoink said:
Squiddly Diddly said:
digimeistter said:
I have yet to hear any positives FOR staying in the EU?
The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
I suspect it does not matter what people stated, you would not accept them as a positive.The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
Squiddly Diddly said:
Hoink said:
Squiddly Diddly said:
digimeistter said:
I have yet to hear any positives FOR staying in the EU?
The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
I suspect it does not matter what people stated, you would not accept them as a positive.The whole change from within is never going to happen, so come on Remainers, convince us?
Crackie said:
mike9009 said:
NoNeed said:
digimeistter said:
They've gone very quiet, maybe they realise?
It is a question that can't be answered as there is nothing good about the EU that actually requires a political union, they also struggle with what does remain mean? is it more of the same? closer integration? a completely reformed EU that nobody knows what it will look like? what other countries will join in the next couple of generations and how much of a strain on our resources will it be.gooner1 said:
Squiddly Diddly said:
Hoink said:
Hardly. But you generally tar everyone who voted Brexit with the same brush so happy to answer.
I do not.The tar's same, he often changes the brush though.
and yet again his plan for today is stay in bedB'stard Child said:
gooner1 said:
Squiddly Diddly said:
Hoink said:
Hardly. But you generally tar everyone who voted Brexit with the same brush so happy to answer.
I do not.The tar's same, he often changes the brush though.
and yet again his plan for today is stay in bed
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