Black Lives Matter activist critical after London shooting.

Black Lives Matter activist critical after London shooting.

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Touring442

3,096 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Legacywr said:
A friend of mine got shot with a starting pistol. Police think it’s race related.
DaBoom-Tish! laugh

dudleybloke

19,991 posts

188 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Touring442 said:
Legacywr said:
A friend of mine got shot with a starting pistol. Police think it’s race related.
DaBoom-Tish! laugh
Police say they've drawn a blank.

Touring442

3,096 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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FFS.












laugh

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Legacywr said:
A friend of mine got shot with a starting pistol. Police think it’s race related.
That’s bang out of order..

Jazzy Jag

3,443 posts

93 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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markcoznottz said:
Legacywr said:
A friend of mine got shot with a starting pistol. Police think it’s race related.
That’s bang out of order..
The race was black flagged.


Vizsla

924 posts

126 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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irc said:
anonymoususer said:
Quite right they are a menace next thing they will want is the 1973 album renaming to

BLACK side of the moon
By Black Floyd
Plenty more scope there:
Simply Black
Black Hot Chili Peppers
Black Day
The Moody Blacks
CeeLo Black
Professor Black
Deep Black
Black Oyster Cult
Alecia Beth Moore aka Black (? Bl!ck in SA)
The Black Stripes
Blacksnake
Average Black Band
James Black

etc (I'm bored now)

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9642125/M...

Nice. Do the police have no intelligence on these people? They must have walked a fair distance with zombie knifes and metal poles to get to Hyde park. Last time I checked, young black gang members don’t live in Knightsbridge, Mayfair, Kensington etc so they aren’t local to the area. Oh yea, stop and search is racialist.

anonymoususer

6,019 posts

50 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers

JagLover

42,644 posts

237 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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anonymoususer said:
"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers
Yep

Her race is entirely irrelevant to the controversy. All professional tennis players are required to take part in press conferences, otherwise they will be fined. I have sympathy for her as she seems to be suffering from anxiety, but her race seems irrelevant to this particular issue.

gruffalo

7,554 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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anonymoususer said:
"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers
She is not black either.

pquinn

7,167 posts

48 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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gruffalo said:
anonymoususer said:
"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers
She is not black either.
Japanese Haitian is black. But still irrelevant.


Northernboy

12,642 posts

259 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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JagLover said:
Yep

Her race is entirely irrelevant to the controversy. All professional tennis players are required to take part in press conferences, otherwise they will be fined. I have sympathy for her as she seems to be suffering from anxiety, but her race seems irrelevant to this particular issue.
I’m not so sure. Look at how the sport conspired to keep the Williams sisters down for so long. After they showed early promise the sport closed ranks against them ensuring they never made it to a grand slam final or had the opportunity to make a living from the sport.

We saw the same in golf with Tiger Woods.

Thankyou4calling

10,637 posts

175 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Yes!

Same with Shaquille, Kobe, Usain, Pele, all held back because of there race.

What utter nonsense.

rodericb

6,823 posts

128 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Countdown said:
blackrabbit said:
Looks like Sasha has pissed off some in her own BLM community who actually know her :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziExfMwDwGk

Edited by blackrabbit on Sunday 30th May 11:51
That looks completely legit and not a load of vindictive racist bullst.

From the same loon......

White people are not of this earth
If she (Sasha) knows you're sticking up for her you might be in with a chance! Go get 'em Tiger!

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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JagLover said:
anonymoususer said:
"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers
Yep

Her race is entirely irrelevant to the controversy. All professional tennis players are required to take part in press conferences, otherwise they will be fined. I have sympathy for her as she seems to be suffering from anxiety, but her race seems irrelevant to this particular issue.
Indeed. Wasn't this published in the Independent too?

I can remember Johanna Konta getting abuse for a surly post match interview having just been dumped out of a competition. I do have some sympathy, I wouldn't necessarily want to talk to the press after a match either, or face the same asinine questions about how you must be feeling or is there anything you felt you could have done differently.

The other criticism is that lots of journalists are no longer specialists in the sport or even sports journalists (thanks to the squeeze on newspaper finances) so you'll often get some journeyman who doesn't follow or show any interest in the sport.

g4ry13

17,214 posts

257 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Pretty much sums the whole thing up except the black community don't care about black lives if violence is between the community:

"But ever since the circumstances surrounding the shooting have become clearer, the anger seems to have dissipated. One can only imagine the sustained outrage if Johnson had been shot for her politics. Yet there is no national outrage now. No demonstrations on the streets. When George Floyd was killed by police on the streets of Minneapolis, parliament held a minute’s silence. Labour leader Keir Starmer was photographed taking the knee alongside his deputy, Angela Rayner. For Sasha Johnson? Nothing.

It is almost as if people are relieved that Johnson was allegedly caught up in an ‘altercation’, rather than a targeted assassination attempt. The reaction to her shooting is an example of how society really does disregard black lives. We no longer seem to care about this kind of violence. We are no longer shocked that five men, one of whom is just 18, stand accused of opening fire at a birthday party. We treat the nihilistic violence of young men with indifference. What greater indictment could there be of our treatment of young black people than society treating such appalling violence as unexceptional."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/03/has-every...

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

43 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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g4ry13 said:
Pretty much sums the whole thing up except the black community don't care about black lives if violence is between the community:

"But ever since the circumstances surrounding the shooting have become clearer, the anger seems to have dissipated. One can only imagine the sustained outrage if Johnson had been shot for her politics. Yet there is no national outrage now. No demonstrations on the streets. When George Floyd was killed by police on the streets of Minneapolis, parliament held a minute’s silence. Labour leader Keir Starmer was photographed taking the knee alongside his deputy, Angela Rayner. For Sasha Johnson? Nothing.

It is almost as if people are relieved that Johnson was allegedly caught up in an ‘altercation’, rather than a targeted assassination attempt. The reaction to her shooting is an example of how society really does disregard black lives. We no longer seem to care about this kind of violence. We are no longer shocked that five men, one of whom is just 18, stand accused of opening fire at a birthday party. We treat the nihilistic violence of young men with indifference. What greater indictment could there be of our treatment of young black people than society treating such appalling violence as unexceptional."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/03/has-every...
Spot on.

Left wing selective outrage at it's finest. Absolutely no different to the (rightful) outrage at Sarah Everard versus the silence on the Muslim grooming gangs.

jimPH

3,981 posts

82 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Newarch said:
JagLover said:
anonymoususer said:
"Naomi Osaka’s radical act of self-care showed exactly what the world thinks of Black women"

Headlines such as this are just pot stirrers
Yep

Her race is entirely irrelevant to the controversy. All professional tennis players are required to take part in press conferences, otherwise they will be fined. I have sympathy for her as she seems to be suffering from anxiety, but her race seems irrelevant to this particular issue.
Indeed. Wasn't this published in the Independent too?

I can remember Johanna Konta getting abuse for a surly post match interview having just been dumped out of a competition. I do have some sympathy, I wouldn't necessarily want to talk to the press after a match either, or face the same asinine questions about how you must be feeling or is there anything you felt you could have done differently.

The other criticism is that lots of journalists are no longer specialists in the sport or even sports journalists (thanks to the squeeze on newspaper finances) so you'll often get some journeyman who doesn't follow or show any interest in the sport.
Except to get a headline, or a soundbite that can be twisted out of context. Or be trapped with questioning and backed to a corner. The media and journos today really are despicable bunch.

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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Yep. Why can't we just be allowed to get away with casual racism & misogyny? Has it really come to this...
So what if the mask slips under questioning from some low-life journo?

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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g4ry13 said:
Pretty much sums the whole thing up except the black community don't care about black lives if violence is between the community:

"But ever since the circumstances surrounding the shooting have become clearer, the anger seems to have dissipated. One can only imagine the sustained outrage if Johnson had been shot for her politics. Yet there is no national outrage now. No demonstrations on the streets. When George Floyd was killed by police on the streets of Minneapolis, parliament held a minute’s silence. Labour leader Keir Starmer was photographed taking the knee alongside his deputy, Angela Rayner. For Sasha Johnson? Nothing.

It is almost as if people are relieved that Johnson was allegedly caught up in an ‘altercation’, rather than a targeted assassination attempt. The reaction to her shooting is an example of how society really does disregard black lives. We no longer seem to care about this kind of violence. We are no longer shocked that five men, one of whom is just 18, stand accused of opening fire at a birthday party. We treat the nihilistic violence of young men with indifference. What greater indictment could there be of our treatment of young black people than society treating such appalling violence as unexceptional."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/03/has-every...
It's a very good point. I don't agree with some of Sasha Johnsons views but I don't think she is a bad person and certainly didn't deserve to be shot. But the issue is that, now it seems certain that she was shot by another black person, there is no political capital to be made out of the story. I dislike the term 'black community' because it is an oversimplification like BAME, which doesn't reflect the reality, that there are huge number of disparate people in the UK who consider themselves black and who don't necessarily have the same social norms and values, or any social cohesion even within ethnic groups. All people in the UK tend to unite on common ground, what sport they like, what team they support, what interests they have, or on a basic level who lives in their community.

The only bit I disagree with is the demonstrations. Who would you be demonstrating against? I'm assuming the police have acted with alacrity to track down the suspects in this case, and there has no suggestion that the inquiry into this crime has been carried out with anything less than the usual gravity such a case would demand. I suppose you could demonstrate against social injustice but I believe this isn't simply a racial issue in the UK.