Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!

[uk66fastback]

No you can't but what Gove failed to do was consult enough, and then listen to the views on the ground and take them into account. It's fine and dandy believing what you're doing is right - but if it contradicts with what those at the coalface think and they should know - surely it isn't *right*?

[shoestring7]

uk66fastback said:

Go speak to some teachers ...

The ones responsible for a couple of generations of children with lower levels of literacy and numeracy than their grandparents, or the ones producing 20% of kids functionally illiterate after 9 years in their care? Don't tell, me, they'd do a lot better without all that political interference.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/may/...

SS7

[Mermaid]

Whereas Brand can be branded the twit, the loser, one stand out winner last night.

[pork911]

Digga said:

crofty1984 said:

Digga said:

So you're one of those pigeon-holers who thinks women can be intelligent or shaggable but not both?

Yes - too smart and my rubbish chat-up lines would never work!

The original line someone posted last night was simply "Did anyone else fall in love with her? Tiny bit?" to which someone else responded in the positive "Eye wood".

It's hardly sexist, objectification, rather a complimentary remark, so I fail to understand how people were getting so irate about it. It's not like anyone tried to belittle her (frankly impressive) performance in the debate.

do you make similar comments to blokes?

[MarshPhantom]

Scuffers said:

otolith said:

MarshPhantom said:

In fact it would make a lot of sense to move farming away from the over crowded (in your opinion) South East.

It would make more sense to move people. Farming happens where it happens for many reasons, but being a good place to grow stuff is a fairly fundamental one.

I wondered if anybody would pick up on this!

Agriculture needs sun, and surprise surprise, the south gets more sun than the north!

not seen any vineyards in Scotland lately?

if your all so keen on concreting over land, why not go and do it in scotland, there's only some 5M people on 30% of the UK land mass up there.

why everybody choices to centre on the great toilet that is london I will never understand.

Because there are no farms oop North or in Scotland obviously. Who mentioned vineyards?

[JensenA]

Scuffers said:

otolith said:

MarshPhantom said:

In fact it would make a lot of sense to move farming away from the over crowded (in your opinion) South East.

It would make more sense to move people. Farming happens where it happens for many reasons, but being a good place to grow stuff is a fairly fundamental one.

I wondered if anybody would pick up on this!

Agriculture needs sun, and surprise surprise, the south gets more sun than the north!

not seen any vineyards in Scotland lately?

if your all so keen on concreting over land, why not go and do it in scotland, there's only some 5M people on 30% of the UK land mass

I used to live north of Aberdeen. Farmland and agriculture everywhere, and in the summer it's still light at 11pm!

[shoestring7]

Mermaid said:

Whereas Brand can be branded the twit, the loser, one stand out winner last night.

Well she got a first in PPE from Brasenose, Oxford, so according to current thinking she must be an out of touch, elitist etc. idiot.

SS7

[Scuffers]

JensenA said:

I used to live north of Aberdeen. Farmland and agriculture everywhere, and in the summer it's still light at 11pm!

not much arable north of the borders compared to the south/east/west (excluding wales)

[Halb]

shoestring7 said:

Mermaid said:

Whereas Brand can be branded the twit, the loser, one stand out winner last night.

Well she got a first in PPE from Brasenose, Oxford, so according to current thinking she must be an out of touch, elitist etc. idiot.

SS7

Not if she went out and got a real job...which she did.
Doing well at it too.

[Halb]

Derek Smith said:

Got to hand it to the BBC: the other channels must be hating the coverage.

It goes all over: right and left. Brilliant marketing. Using Murdoch's ire to up the viewing figures and comment is rather pleasant as well.

It is what the BBC does best.

What has Murdoch's Empire said?

[MarshPhantom]

JensenA said:

Scuffers said:

otolith said:

MarshPhantom said:

In fact it would make a lot of sense to move farming away from the over crowded (in your opinion) South East.

It would make more sense to move people. Farming happens where it happens for many reasons, but being a good place to grow stuff is a fairly fundamental one.

I wondered if anybody would pick up on this!

Agriculture needs sun, and surprise surprise, the south gets more sun than the north!

not seen any vineyards in Scotland lately?

if your all so keen on concreting over land, why not go and do it in scotland, there's only some 5M people on 30% of the UK land mass

I used to live north of Aberdeen. Farmland and agriculture everywhere, and in the summer it's still light at 11pm!

David Archer is relocating from Borsetshire to Northumberland, thanks to that wretched bypass.

[eharding]

Northern Munkee said:

HonestIago said:

Did enjoy the disabled chap leaping to Farage's defence after the st Brand started saying about him.

Call me a cynic but I could imagine that man would be the perfect UKIP plant. I mean Brand couldn't call a disabled man racist (that's the level politics has reached). And a loud enough disabled man, that he just couldn't shout him down. Shout down a disabled man?! Brand stumped how would that play, and stumped for the rest of the show.

Nice one "mate".

I'm not saying the bloke was a 'kipper stooge, but....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/question-time...

[whoami]

eharding said:

I'm not saying the bloke was a 'kipper stooge, but....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/question-time...

So what?

He asked a pertinent question and didn't let Brand fob him off with nonsense.

[Mermaid]

whoami said:

eharding said:

I'm not saying the bloke was a 'kipper stooge, but....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/question-time...

So what?

He asked a pertinent question and didn't let Brand fob him off with nonsense.

Mirror readers think Brand won over Farage....

[Axionknight]

Sounds more like a supporter than a stooge to me - he had the right to be there and ask questions just like anybody else. I think Brand is one of the biggest tossers going but I'm sure he had his close supporters there too, which, also, is fine - no big deal.

[JustAnotherLogin]

Mermaid said:

Mirror readers think Brand won over Farage....

Metro thinks he did too

http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/12/russell-brand-ripped...

[NicD]

an alternative reality.

[JustAnotherLogin]

NicD said:

an alternative reality.

Telegraph reckons Brand beat Farage as well. Not known for the left-leaning

I didn't watch it, but just a thought, is it perhaps the Kippers who are the only ones that think Farage won?

[eharding]

JustAnotherLogin said:

Mermaid said:

Mirror readers think Brand won over Farage....

Metro thinks he did too

http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/12/russell-brand-ripped...

To be fair though, a Brand vs. Farage popularity contest is on a par with a poll asking "Which do you think is the least disgusting type of turd - is it a) dog, b) cat or c) some cheeky fox crap your Labrador has just rolled in"?

You wouldn't want to spend time in close proximity of any of them.

[NicD]

This from the Telegraph (no friends of UKIP btw):

“You should stand [as an MP], Russell!” honked Mr Farage, gesturing towards a woman at the back baying accusations of racism. “These are your voters! Lovely people, aren’t they?”
After this, Mr Brand was disappointingly subdued. He did not in the least appear to have ruffled Mr Farage – although, to be fair, Mr Farage did have the advantage of experience, having appeared on this programme on a record 743 previous occasions.“

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-far...

This seems a win for Mr Farage, what is your source?

Edited by NicD on Friday 12th December 20:28