Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

Jeremy Clarkson suspended by BBC...

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Hackney

6,873 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Moonhawk said:
ZOLLAR said:
This is what annoys me, why is that a problem? why does everything have to appeal to both men and women? You have programs like "loose women" you don't see men arguing for a male presenter etc
Why can't they just accept that men and women like different things and that sometimes a man is better at presenting a certain show just as much as a woman is presenting other shows?

Why force it upon us, if Sabine Schmidt was to present it I would probably be great but not when it's forced and we're told to like it because it's equal.
That's one thing I don't get - why do people assume that for a programme or movie to appeal to women - it has to be presented by or headlined by women.

My wife loved top gear as it was - she doesn't think it has to be made more "female friendly". She finds female comedians in general rather less funny than their male counterparts and dislikes the BBCs new policy of insisting panel shows have at least one female comedian. I told her about the new 'all female' Ghostbusters - and her reply "it'll be st".

Top gear could be good with the right female presenter - but I think it would be a mistake to put a female presenter in just to make it appeal to women more - or because it's seen at the thing to do. Whoever gets the new slot in TG (assuming there is one) - should be chosen based on merit alone (car knowledge and enthusiasm, humour etc), not to fulfill some sort of PC agenda.
This creates another problem for the women that actually get the job.
Dara O'Briain made the point when the BBC announced it's token woman policy. (And for some reason he was villified by the hard of thinking)

As soon as you make the announcement the woman that gets the job is a quota filler, a token.
Don't make the announcement, employ a woman and she's there because she's right for the job.

If the BBC are going to make Top Gear they should look at all candidates and then (for example) give it to VBH because she's the best person for the job.

irocfan

40,804 posts

192 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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but that's the issue isn't it... PC (and to be seen being PC) comes first

puts me in mind of this...


Moonhawk

10,730 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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ofcorsa

3,534 posts

245 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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irocfan said:
but that's the issue isn't it... PC (and to be seen being PC) comes first

puts me in mind of this...

Scroobius Pip on his podcast made a comment that everyone looks up when screaming equality, people rarely look down and say it.

djdest

6,542 posts

180 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Chris Evans was saying this morning that they're filming the LaFerrari on the TG track today for his TFI Friday one off being broadcast tonight

WestyCarl

3,300 posts

127 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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djdest said:
Chris Evans was saying this morning that they're filming the LaFerrari on the TG track today for his TFI Friday one off being broadcast tonight
and JC is on TFI tonight

Impasse

15,099 posts

243 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Just watching Evans on TFI Friday doing his "Top Gear" bit with Hamilton and Plato. It's dire, he's dire as a TG style presenter.

NicD

3,281 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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I made the OH turn it off when I came into the room, now she isn't talking to mefrown

she must like the squeaky annoyer.

who thought resurrecting the sad and irritating formula was a good idea?

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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NicD said:
I made the OH turn it off when I came into the room, now she isn't talking to mefrown

she must like the squeaky annoyer.

who thought resurrecting the sad and irritating formula was a good idea?
All of the rest of us smile

jshell

11,112 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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St John Smythe said:
NicD said:
I made the OH turn it off when I came into the room, now she isn't talking to mefrown

she must like the squeaky annoyer.

who thought resurrecting the sad and irritating formula was a good idea?
All of the rest of us smile
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pork911

7,289 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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NicD said:
who thought resurrecting the sad and irritating formula was a good idea?
Top gear or TFI?

NicD

3,281 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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pork911 said:
Top gear or TFI?
I meant TFI, but would apply to any changed TG also

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Anyone noticed the Top Gear adverts on the BBC, with the tagline, 'only on the BBC.' biggrin

pacman1

7,322 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Might I suggest a left field entry?

Rowan Atkinson.

He'd bring a new dimension all of his own, and he'd work well with the other two.

Top Gear would become a right laugh again for sure! smile

NicD

3,281 posts

259 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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I can only speak for myself but i found TG only tolerable because of the interaction, and JC's over acting and sound bites. Oh, and the superb foreign locations.
Replace that and I don't think I would watch.
Replace it with Chris Evans hyper squeaking and mates/'posses' and that would be lights out.

98elise

26,916 posts

163 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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pacman1 said:
Might I suggest a left field entry?

Rowan Atkinson.

He'd bring a new dimension all of his own, and he'd work well with the other two.

Top Gear would become a right laugh again for sure! smile
As has been said before, he's not an outgoing funny person in real life.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

263 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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98elise said:
As has been said before, he's not an outgoing funny person in real life.
We are talking about Top Gear here.

pacman1

7,322 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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98elise said:
As has been said before, he's not an outgoing funny person in real life.
Ok, not read the entire mahoosive thread (apologies), but all I'd say is that he'd work well with the other two.

I can just see him giving a piece to camera, followed by a retort from James or Richard, and they'd either get a Black Adder retort or a Mister Bean look.

In the mould of Jack Dee, just a look or a well placed backhanded comment is all it takes to create comedy genious, and great TV.

Rowan wouldn't have to reinvent himself too much at all (we know he's got the passion for cars), and we'd be all laughin' in the ailes,
including them, which is what makes the show!

I'd say it would work.

Hell, I'd even start watchin' again..

Edited by pacman1 on Sunday 14th June 16:12

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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pacman1 said:
98elise said:
As has been said before, he's not an outgoing funny person in real life.
Ok, not read the entire mahoosive thread (apologies), but all I'd say is that he'd work well with the other two.

I can just see him giving a piece to camera, followed by a retort from James or Richard, and they'd either get a Black Adder retort or a Mister Bean look.

In the mould of Jack Dee, just a look or a well placed backhanded comment is all it takes to create comedy genious, and great TV.

Rowan wouldn't have to reinvent himself too much at all (we know he's got the passion for cars), and we'd be all laughin' in the ailes,
including them, which is what makes the show!

I'd say it would work.

Hell, I'd even start watchin' again..
Don't think Baldrick's boils would go down too well.

carinaman

21,395 posts

174 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Atkinson and May are a bit similar.

Both wrote for CAR Magazine in the mid to late 90s, with Atkinson doing a piece on specifying his Ferrari 456 in green with red leather and the experience being sullied by being asked for the cheque, and May more recently doing a piece for The Engineer on how designing a Supermini is more difficult than designing a Hypercar.

Atkinson got his HGV licence so he could drive his Edinburgh fringe sets to Scotland himself reportedly.

With regard to TG having to adhere to BBC Tick Box quotas, haven't they got a get out there due to Hammond having a bump on the head in that dragster?

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 14th June 18:29