Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[johnboy1975]

JagLover said:

CivicDuties said:

"Sunak’s Eat Out to Help Out drove second Covid wave, Vallance tells inquiry"

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunaks-eat-out-t...

Much as I am no fan of most of Sunak's recent moves the claim by Vallance is b*llox in my opinion and ignores similar second waves throughout the western world. All part of a pretence to claim infection was within the control of government and all we needed to do was lock down harder, longer, faster.

Surely as a scientist, Vallance would agree the best possible time to have a second wave would be August. Build up that previous infection protection for the upcoming winter? For another thread, perhaps

Back on topic. Rishi cutting taxes...wouldn't that be inflationary? Not that I'm against having a few extra quid in my pocket but he's spent most of the year trying various ingenious ways of removing the same, to dampen inflation



Oh and I see it's a promise again, rather than a hope, now the target has been hit. Well, Rishis "easy" target of halving the ten percent inflation of earlier in the year (which was always going to fall naturally , to a greater or lesser extent). Still some way off the BoE target if 2%

[z4RRSchris]

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

[JagLover]

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

100%

[Gecko1978]

turbobloke said:

JagLover said:

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

100%

The 100 to 120k claw back needs to go. Either you get a tax free allowance or you don't taking it back takea the p

[Rivenink]

Tax cuts before an election?

Groundbreaking.

[anonymoususer]

turbobloke said:

Rufus Stone said:

CivicDuties said:

"Sunak’s Eat Out to Help Out drove second Covid wave, Vallance tells inquiry"

https://inews.co.uk/news/politiucs/sunaks-eat-out-...

Well they are certainly keen to blame others.

The timeline iirc had Eat Out around July 2020 while schools reopened June - September 2020 with a new variant December 2020.

With so many variables impacting on transmission around that time, Vallance needs to spell out which fag packet modelling provides such certainty.

"eat-out-to-help out "

The very name deserves derision
I really can't remember but wasn't this around the time the virus had an inbuilt height catchment area. Or was it more catchable after a certain time.

[JagLover]

anonymoususer said:

"eat-out-to-help out "

The very name deserves derision
I really can't remember but wasn't this around the time the virus had an inbuilt height catchment area. Or was it more catchable after a certain time.

The virus had many interesting qualities. Like how it could be stopped dead by a fabric mask with a pretty pattern off Etsy, or warded off by a Scotch egg. For some reason six was a number pleasing to it as well.

[PlywoodPascal]

JagLover said:

The virus had many interesting qualities. Like how it could be stopped dead by a fabric mask with a pretty pattern off Etsy, or warded off by a Scotch egg. For some reason six was a number pleasing to it as well.

this is pathetic

[Rufus Stone]

JagLover said:

anonymoususer said:

"eat-out-to-help out "

The very name deserves derision
I really can't remember but wasn't this around the time the virus had an inbuilt height catchment area. Or was it more catchable after a certain time.

The virus had many interesting qualities. Like how it could be stopped dead by a fabric mask with a pretty pattern off Etsy, or warded off by a Scotch egg. For some reason six was a number pleasing to it as well.

The covid thread is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[CivicDuties]

How is the Covid pandemic not pertinent to a discussion of Rishi Sunak? He was Chancellor at the time, a position to which he rose from out of (pretty much) nowhere. It's quite a big part of his political story.

[Rufus Stone]

CivicDuties said:

How is the Covid pandemic not pertinent to a discussion of Rishi Sunak? He was Chancellor at the time, a position to which he rose from out of (pretty much) nowhere. It's quite a big part of his political story.

Discussing his actions is fair game. There is a dedicated thread to discus the virus.

[captain_cynic]

CivicDuties said:

How is the Covid pandemic not pertinent to a discussion of Rishi Sunak? He was Chancellor at the time, a position to which he rose from out of (pretty much) nowhere. It's quite a big part of his political story.

The pandemic, yes it's quite relevant... Conspiracy theories are not.

[z4RRSchris]

Gecko1978 said:

turbobloke said:

JagLover said:

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

100%

The 100 to 120k claw back needs to go. Either you get a tax free allowance or you don't taking it back takea the p

They are not going to do that, they need to target floating voters so moving the bands from the bottom helps everyone.

15k bottom one
65k middle one
200k top one

[turbobloke]

z4RRSchris said:

Gecko1978 said:

turbobloke said:

JagLover said:

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

100%

The 100 to 120k claw back needs to go. Either you get a tax free allowance or you don't taking it back takea the p

They are not going to do that, they need to target floating voters so moving the bands from the bottom helps everyone.

15k bottom one
65k middle one
200k top one

[Dunclane]

z4RRSchris said:

They are not going to do that, they need to target floating voters so moving the bands from the bottom helps everyone.

15k bottom one
65k middle one
200k top one

Agreed something close to the above would definitely help but I don't think they'll do it to that level.

What they should look at is the Higher Income Child Benefit Charge it's a sneaky tax that normal PAYE wouldn't be aware of then get hit by.

[IroningMan]

turbobloke said:

z4RRSchris said:

Gecko1978 said:

turbobloke said:

JagLover said:

z4RRSchris said:

id take moving the bands up, helps everyone and even the rich get a nice bonus.

Yes.

all this talk of "tax cuts" (which will give back a little of what has been taken) and what is really needed is the routine raising of tax allowances in line with inflation.

100%

The 100 to 120k claw back needs to go. Either you get a tax free allowance or you don't taking it back takea the p

They are not going to do that, they need to target floating voters so moving the bands from the bottom helps everyone.

15k bottom one
65k middle one
200k top one

...which is why he won't do it: no 'wedge' value in a tax cut that will be universally welcomed. He'll opt for something that Labour would have to promise to reverse.

[Timothy Bucktu]

CivicDuties said:

"Sunak’s Eat Out to Help Out drove second Covid wave, Vallance tells inquiry"

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunaks-eat-out-t...

Maybe a bit. But in general, the Covid waves were in sync around the world. So it was insignificant really.

[frisbee]

turbobloke said:

You would still vote for them even if they introduced a 100% Turbobloke only tax.

[captain_cynic]

Dunclane said:

z4RRSchris said:

They are not going to do that, they need to target floating voters so moving the bands from the bottom helps everyone.

15k bottom one
65k middle one
200k top one

Agreed something close to the above would definitely help but I don't think they'll do it to that level.

What they should look at is the Higher Income Child Benefit Charge it's a sneaky tax that normal PAYE wouldn't be aware of then get hit by.

Sneaky taxation is the Tory MO.

They like to claim they're lowering taxes but really are hitting you by raising things like insurance premium tax, air passenger duties, import duties, et al.