How many have been vaccinated so far?

[FiF]

Andy 308GTB said:

Roman Rhodes said:

Your safe space is on the CV19 cure thread. Not sure why you and a few other inhabitants of that echo chamber have eloped to a thread about vaccination numbers?

Because no one dares to post an opposing opinion on that thread, so it's probably got a bit boring.

Probably not that people don't dare to post but, like so many other threads these days, just CBA trying to push against fog and end up mentally noting the relevant posters whose input is now automatically ignored on every other thread they join. Even if it is, usually very rarely, about cars.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

No idea what you are on about. I've pointed out that posters from the echo chamber that is the CV19 cure thread (where "agitprops" and "bolshevik warnings" fit in nicely) are posting OT on this thread.

I'll not be aiding you by continuing with the derailing. Cheers.

[isaldiri]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

I saw the Pfizer are seeking emergency approval to vaccinate 2-11 years olds. Has anybody got a justification for children of that age to be vaccinated?

Look at it on the bright side. At least it's looking unlikely that the government will push out using the AZN vaccine on everyone, their kids and their cat as well given the MHRA yellow card data recording yet another clear rise in ViTT events.....

[Zoon]

vaud said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

I saw the Pfizer are seeking emergency approval to vaccinate 2-11 years olds. Has anybody got a justification for children of that age to be vaccinated?

Primary school and preschool have flu vaccinations. Same argument?

It's a nasal spray, but does the same thing.

[Steve vRS]

Zoon said:

vaud said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

I saw the Pfizer are seeking emergency approval to vaccinate 2-11 years olds. Has anybody got a justification for children of that age to be vaccinated?

Primary school and preschool have flu vaccinations. Same argument?

It's a nasal spray, but does the same thing.

And only if they have a clinical need such as being asthmatic.

[Toyoda]

As someone in the next cohort of being eligible for vaccination, I've received my letter from the NHS to tell me how to book and they've provided the exact same leaflet you can access here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

However, nowhere in there does it say that all adults should have it. There's a long list of "You should have the covid 19 vaccination if you are..." however most people in my cohort wont meet these. It then goes on to say who can't have it, so it basically leaves a big chasm where you're neither in need of it nor unable to have it.

[anonymous-user]

Steve vRS said:

And only if they have a clinical need such as being asthmatic.

Incorrect.

[Zoon]

Steve vRS said:

Zoon said:

vaud said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

I saw the Pfizer are seeking emergency approval to vaccinate 2-11 years olds. Has anybody got a justification for children of that age to be vaccinated?

Primary school and preschool have flu vaccinations. Same argument?

It's a nasal spray, but does the same thing.

And only if they have a clinical need such as being asthmatic.

All children are offered it at my son's school

[vaud]

Steve vRS said:

And only if they have a clinical need such as being asthmatic.

Preschool and primary are now routinely vaccinated with a nasal spray (c.60% for all primary ages)
Source here

[anonymous-user]

What relevance is the flu vaccine here? The flu vaccine is fully tested and approved with a track record. Children can suffer from flu and are vectors of it. The risk/reward profile is very different to the Covid vaccines. Happy to let my children take the flu vaccine.

Can anybody list the direct health benefits to children from taking the Covid vaccines?

[vaud]

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

What relevance is the flu vaccine here? The flu vaccine is fully tested and approved with a track record. Children can suffer from flu and are vectors of it. The risk/reward profile is very different to the Covid vaccines. Happy to let my children take the flu vaccine.

Can anybody list the direct health benefits to children from taking the Covid vaccines?

It was purely an analogy that wide spread flu vaccination is common in children, that was being disputed further up.

I will assess if my kids take a coronavirus vaccine based on data closer to the time.

There is a view (I will try to find the link) that to get to wider immunity you need >90% (?) of the population vaccinated, in which case you need to go into the younger population.

[anonymous-user]

vaud said:

It was purely an analogy that wide spread flu vaccination is common in children, that was being disputed further up.

I will assess if my kids take a coronavirus vaccine based on data closer to the time.

There is a view (I will try to find the link) that to get to wider immunity you need >90% (?) of the population vaccinated, in which case you need to go into the younger population.

That was Fauci inexplicably changing the goalposts on the conversation about getting kids vaccinated.

[Steve vRS]

vaud said:

Preschool and primary are now routinely vaccinated with a nasal spray (c.60% for all primary ages)
Source here

Every day is a school day. My son has had it as he is asthmatic but I don’t recall my daughter having one.

[NerveAgent]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57021738

Under 40s to be offered alternative to AZ. Reading the small print however...”if available” hmmm

[rover 623gsi]

Numbers continue to tick along nicely

https://mobile.twitter.com/HugoGye/status/13906534...

[skeggysteve]

Like others on here I've had a couple of letters inviting me to book my jab. I've also had several texts.

Just now I've had a phone call asking me when I was going to book my jab, when I said I wasn't the woman politely asked if I would mind saying why. I told her and she thanked me for my time and said bye.

I wonder how many times they are going to call, one more and I'll be blocking the number!

[Terminator X]

vaud said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

What relevance is the flu vaccine here? The flu vaccine is fully tested and approved with a track record. Children can suffer from flu and are vectors of it. The risk/reward profile is very different to the Covid vaccines. Happy to let my children take the flu vaccine.

Can anybody list the direct health benefits to children from taking the Covid vaccines?

It was purely an analogy that wide spread flu vaccination is common in children, that was being disputed further up.

I will assess if my kids take a coronavirus vaccine based on data closer to the time.

There is a view (I will try to find the link) that to get to wider immunity you need >90% (?) of the population vaccinated, in which case you need to go into the younger population.

From the ONS - this year in the UK 57k Covid deaths and of those 6 were aged under 14.

TX.

[frisbee]

skeggysteve said:

Like others on here I've had a couple of letters inviting me to book my jab. I've also had several texts.

Just now I've had a phone call asking me when I was going to book my jab, when I said I wasn't the woman politely asked if I would mind saying why. I told her and she thanked me for my time and said bye.

I wonder how many times they are going to call, one more and I'll be blocking the number!

Make up a different answer every time, see how far fetched you can go, immortal, space alien, robot etc.

I wish I hadn't bothered having it. My reaction to the bloody thing was far worse than my reaction to COVID!

[vaud]

Terminator X said:

From the ONS - this year in the UK 57k Covid deaths and of those 6 were aged under 14.

TX.

I don't disagree, but vaccination isn't just about mortality. It's about the ability to spread the disease, and also for children their educational outcomes of lost school time.

As I noted, I will assess closer to the time, I'm not someone who has decided yay or nay as yet.

[Terminator X]

vaud said:

Terminator X said:

From the ONS - this year in the UK 57k Covid deaths and of those 6 were aged under 14.

TX.

I don't disagree, but vaccination isn't just about mortality. It's about the ability to spread the disease, and also for children their educational outcomes of lost school time.

As I noted, I will assess closer to the time, I'm not someone who has decided yay or nay as yet.

Whilst anyone can catch Covid it seems probable that the older you are the more likely you are to get it "bad" and even die from it barring rare events such as the 6 kids who did die. Is it really a "problem" spreading Covid when all the vulnerable are vaccinated and kids generally remain un-impacted by it as a rule? Cases up but deaths pretty much zero is of no concern surely.

TX.

Edit - o/t but about 30k people die every year from flu / pneumonia in the UK and pretty much no one sheds a tear vs Covid where we have "not one death" ...

Edited by Terminator X on Friday 7th May 16:04