Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 5
Discussion
Big Rod said:
But it'll make it fairer!
Equality FTW, eh.Saw some "abusive partner" stuff floating about the Facebook earlier on, not sure if it's come directly from Yes Scotland but it had their logo on it - was along the lines of "would you stay with a partner who made threats about you leaving?" Etc
The usual emotional yet factually challened stuff.
simoid said:
Saw some "abusive partner" stuff floating about the Facebook earlier on.....
Just looking at their FB page now. How come when anyone outside Scotland voices an opinion that the union is better together - they get told to keep their nose out - yet they are happy to accept support from such people. They currently have a picture of Frank Skinner with a quote attributed to him:
"If I was Scottish I think i'd probably vote Yes"
I wonder how much bile Frank got from unionists for saying that......I wonder if it was on par with JK?
simoid said:
Equality FTW, eh.
Saw some "abusive partner" stuff floating about the Facebook earlier on, not sure if it's come directly from Yes Scotland but it had their logo on it - was along the lines of "would you stay with a partner who made threats about you leaving?" Etc
The usual emotional yet factually challened stuff.
I know. It's tiresome.Saw some "abusive partner" stuff floating about the Facebook earlier on, not sure if it's come directly from Yes Scotland but it had their logo on it - was along the lines of "would you stay with a partner who made threats about you leaving?" Etc
The usual emotional yet factually challened stuff.
Axionknight said:
Out of interest, has anyone seen any turn out predictions/estimations they could share? I'd be interested to see what percentage of the voting population are going to make the trip to the ballot box on voting day.
I think it'll be high (compared to the usual Westminster turnout). Having talked locally, almost everyone in our village will vote. I know of only 3 people that intend to vote yes. Two of those are English! All the native Scots bar one that I've spoken to will vote no. But that's a Highland thing, it's lowland Scotland that host most of the yes voters. Having looked at the demographic, it's male 20s 30s in Glasgow & surrounds that are most likely to vote yes. (There are lots of them mind!)bigkeeko said:
GetCarter said:
it's lowland Scotland that host most of the yes voters.
I`m about as south as it gets and at my workplace for example it`s 70-80% No.GetCarter said:
I think it'll be high (compared to the usual Westminster turnout). Having talked locally, almost everyone in our village will vote. I know of only 3 people that intend to vote yes. Two of those are English! All the native Scots bar one that I've spoken to will vote no. But that's a Highland thing, it's lowland Scotland that host most of the yes voters. Having looked at the demographic, it's male 20s 30s in Glasgow & surrounds that are most likely to vote yes. (There are lots of them mind!)
Interesting, I'm also looking forward to seeing the stats for the younger voters included in the referendum, /nerdGetCarter said:
But that's a Highland thing, it's lowland Scotland that host most of the yes voters.
At first I found that statement a little puzzling. Much of the Yes campaign seems to be based on socialist ideals and anti-tory rhetoric - yet the lowland areas close to the border with England have usually gained reasonable support for the Conservatives.Indeed their only MP in Scotland was from one of these areas - and the two neighbouring areas also on the border saw Tory support exceed 30% of the popular vote.
I guess however when you consider the lowlands as a whole (including the large metropolitan area of Glasgow - overall the Yes campaign probably does have a lot of support.
Moonhawk said:
GetCarter said:
But that's a Highland thing, it's lowland Scotland that host most of the yes voters.
At first I found that statement a little puzzling. Much of the Yes campaign seems to be based on socialist ideals and anti-tory rhetoric - yet the lowland areas close to the border with England have usually gained reasonable support for the Conservatives.Indeed their only MP in Scotland was from one of these areas - and the two neighbouring areas also on the border saw Tory support exceed 30% of the popular vote.
I guess however when you consider the lowlands as a whole (including the large metropolitan area of Glasgow - overall the Yes campaign probably does have a lot of support.
GetCarter said:
It's also a numbers thing... there are very few of us up here. Wester Ross.... population 6001 (the one is my dog I think), so we'll have little impact on the vote as a whole.
It is ironic that one of the key things that the Yes voters seem to have a problem with (i.e. the large population of England holding apparent sway over the politics of the entire UK) - could actually play itself out in miniature during the referendum.Or doesn't that matter to yes voters because "we're all Scottish".
bigkeeko said:
GetCarter said:
Last Poll I saw said most likely to vote yes was Glasgow, male, 20-40, little education. Most likely to vote no was educated, female, over 40, rural.
Alarming but entirely believable. Is there a link for this?GetCarter said:
bigkeeko said:
GetCarter said:
Last Poll I saw said most likely to vote yes was Glasgow, male, 20-40, little education. Most likely to vote no was educated, female, over 40, rural.
Alarming but entirely believable. Is there a link for this?Something to think about for some people in this thread
Daniel Hannan said:
“It’s not so much the stats that have convinced me,” says a friend in Aberdeen, “it’s the people”. She has voted for three different parties including the SNP, enthusiastically backed devolution in 1998, and was open-minded about independence. What settled her into the No camp in the end was that its spokesmen came across as more reasonable. “Both lots will tell you that Scotland would be better off their way, but the ‘Yes’ folk just sound so angry all the time”.
When I mentioned our conversation to another friend, this one a strong SNP supporter, he groaned with the air of a man who had had the point put to him many times. “If we lose this thing – and I’m not saying we will, but if we do – it’ll be because of the ****ing cybernats”.
When I mentioned our conversation to another friend, this one a strong SNP supporter, he groaned with the air of a man who had had the point put to him many times. “If we lose this thing – and I’m not saying we will, but if we do – it’ll be because of the ****ing cybernats”.
Guam said:
Very useful, looks like the idea of having the teenagers given the vote might backfire on my new brethren.
Who would have thought the kids appear more mature then their elders? Go figure.
Plus - they don't have the baggage of Thatcherism weighing them down. Who would have thought the kids appear more mature then their elders? Go figure.
The whole poll tax thing for which there is still much resentment amongst older members, was 25 years ago. Well before many who now have the vote were even born.
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