CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)

[Harrison Bergeron]

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Vaccine injured musician has to cancel shows as he still caught covid anyway

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10826607/...

Sing it with me

The vaccines are safe and effective !

Also if you want a rugged look into a lockdowners wk bank. Reddit.com/r/Shanghai

[anonymous-user]

Boringvolvodriver said:

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Vaccine injured musician has to cancel shows as he still caught covid anyway

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10826607/...

Interesting how they call him an anti vaxxer when he has been vaccinated! Although I suppose just speaking out with views on things like that can make you an anti vaxxer these days I suppose.

Why isn’t it called being pro choice? I have no problems with people having the vaccine when they are given full information and fully consent - It is when the coercion starts that I have an issue.

Agree. It's a lazy, inaccurate and purposely misleading description designed to wrongfully portray an individual as something they clearly are not.

Par for the course these days for any situation where an outcome/viewpoint does not agree with the "The science" (TM) or official message and meeds to be manipulated accordingly.

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Boringvolvodriver said:

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Vaccine injured musician has to cancel shows as he still caught covid anyway

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10826607/...

Interesting how they call him an anti vaxxer when he has been vaccinated! Although I suppose just speaking out with views on things like that can make you an anti vaxxer these days I suppose.

Why isn’t it called being pro choice? I have no problems with people having the vaccine when they are given full information and fully consent - It is when the coercion starts that I have an issue.

Because calling him “anti-Vax” “refusenik” etc dehumanises the individual. The baying mob of jab enthusiasts then laugh and wish death/severe illness on him because he’s anti-science/an idiot etc without questioning what caused him to speak out against the covid injections in the first place.

Don’t you just love manipulation and society?

It’s the same reason that healthcare staff were hailed as heroes. It pulled them into Team Jab do that they’d be fully supportive and not question it.

[Rufus Stone]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Interesting how they call him an anti vaxxer when he has been vaccinated! Although I suppose just speaking out with views on things like that can make you an anti vaxxer these days I suppose.

Why isn’t it called being pro choice? I have no problems with people having the vaccine when they are given full information and fully consent - It is when the coercion starts that I have an issue.

More a conspiracy loon than an anti-vaxxer.

[johnboy1975]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Eric's gone all in

We're not going to issue 7b smallpox vaccines (surely?)

[grumbledoak]

johnboy1975 said:

Eric's gone all in

We're not going to issue 7b smallpox vaccines (surely?)

Oh well, if Feigl-Derp is in a tizzy it must be scary.

Fortunately the FDA has only recently approved a Monkeypox vaccine -

FDA approves first live, non-replicating vaccine to prevent smallpox and monkeypox (2019)
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcement...

Get jabbin'.

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Funny, conspiracy theorists suggested smallpox outbreak would be next

[vixen1700]

https://www.statnews.com/2022/05/17/cdc-expresses-...

Monkeypox in gay-sex transmission shock!

[cliffe_mafia]

Harrison Bergeron said:

Sing it with me

The vaccines are safe and effective !

Also if you want a rugged look into a lockdowners wk bank. Reddit.com/r/Shanghai

The Nation's favourite virus guru apparently.

Or scaremonger according to the comments.

[Roderick Spode]

Rufus Stone said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

Interesting how they call him an anti vaxxer when he has been vaccinated! Although I suppose just speaking out with views on things like that can make you an anti vaxxer these days I suppose.

Why isn’t it called being pro choice? I have no problems with people having the vaccine when they are given full information and fully consent - It is when the coercion starts that I have an issue.

More a conspiracy loon than an anti-vaxxer.

A gentleman who has had a number of the magic life-saving jabs, has had resultant side effects from them, and then amends his views based on his experiences, is a conspiracy loon in your view?

Rufus, you're hilarious. Based on that mindset, you must make the same mistakes every single day, because to change your approach based on experienced learning would make you a conspiracy loon.

"Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no..."

[cliffe_mafia]

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Funny, conspiracy theorists Bill Gates suggested smallpox outbreak would be next

FTFY.

Isn't the monkey thing a little early? I was expecting it 3 minutes after the WHO Pandemic Treaty was enforced.

It must have "escaped" the lab too early.

Edited by cliffe_mafia on Thursday 19th May 15:24

[Rufus Stone]

Roderick Spode said:

A gentleman who has had a number of the magic life-saving jabs, has had resultant side effects from them, and then amends his views based on his experiences, is a conspiracy loon in your view?

Rufus, you're hilarious. Based on that mindset, you must make the same mistakes every single day, because to change your approach based on experienced learning would make you a conspiracy loon.

"Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no..."

Is that your conclusion from reading the article or simply the headline posted here?

[Roderick Spode]

Rufus Stone said:

Roderick Spode said:

A gentleman who has had a number of the magic life-saving jabs, has had resultant side effects from them, and then amends his views based on his experiences, is a conspiracy loon in your view?

Rufus, you're hilarious. Based on that mindset, you must make the same mistakes every single day, because to change your approach based on experienced learning would make you a conspiracy loon.

"Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no I've burned my toast..." next day "Oh no..."

Is that your conclusion from reading the article or simply the headline posted here?

You're the one claiming that Mr Clapton is a conspiracy loon...

[g4ry13]

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Funny, conspiracy theorists suggested smallpox outbreak would be next

Fortunately that story about the Smallpox sample being found outside of the two authorised labs has been thoroughly researched and now classed as 'misinformation'.

[Boringvolvodriver]

Rufus Stone said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

Interesting how they call him an anti vaxxer when he has been vaccinated! Although I suppose just speaking out with views on things like that can make you an anti vaxxer these days I suppose.

Why isn’t it called being pro choice? I have no problems with people having the vaccine when they are given full information and fully consent - It is when the coercion starts that I have an issue.

More a conspiracy loon than an anti-vaxxer.

Maybe, maybe not. There was certainly an attempt to manipulate people to some degree through increasing fear levels quote from SAGE minutes

“. Perceived threat: A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened; it could be that they are reassured by the low death rate in their demographic group (8), although levels of concern may be rising (9). Having a good understanding of the risk has been found to be positively associated with adoption of COVID-19 social distancing measures in Hong Kong (10). The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging. To be effective this must also empower people by making clear the actions they can take to reduce the threat (11).”

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

And don’t get me started on some of the adverts that they had to pull because of the misinformation that was contained in them.

So yes, there is a nugget of truth that government have attempted to manipulate people through fear and if you can’t see that then you too have been manipulated to a degree.

[johnboy1975]

JCVI release "interim" advice for autumn boosters

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-provides-i...

Seems to be common sense, vunerable and over 65's. With a slight deviation from the sensible to throw health care workers under the bus (again) - hopefully without mandates this time. (Although with the shortness of sterilising immunity seen, it won't protect them all winter)

Have they accepted that healthy 5-11, 12-18, 18-39 and 40-64 year olds don't need repeat boosters forevermore? I guess we could see this as progress of sorts, but I'd be interested in why their thinking has changed so drastically.

For me, they went for vaccine herd immunity, and kept going long after it was proved to be an impossible dream.

[tannhauser]

johnboy1975 said:

JCVI release "interim" advice for autumn boosters

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-provides-i...

Are these s ever going to give it up?

[johnboy1975]

tannhauser said:

johnboy1975 said:

JCVI release "interim" advice for autumn boosters

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-provides-i...

Are these s ever going to give it up?

Correct, the negative aspect which I hadn't fully grasped when I posted, is that this is a green light to NHS covid testing before ops etc until well into 2023. Plus weekly testing for NHS workers I assume, which will see c5% off at any one time (perhaps more?). So expect the current backlog to be bigger this time next year

Although if you mean the JCVI, I (still) think that's a rather balanced and nuanced assessment, and one I heartily wish they'd done (or stuck to) initially. We all remember "15m jabs to freedom" (that's the eldest most vunerable 7.5m double jabbed twice....). At which point did it pivot from that, to everyone? Must have been some point in around Feb/ March 2021 at a guess....?

Not been on twitter this evening, I expect the "jab everyone" brigade are raging?

Edited by johnboy1975 on Thursday 19th May 21:47

[Boringvolvodriver]

johnboy1975 said:

tannhauser said:

johnboy1975 said:

JCVI release "interim" advice for autumn boosters

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-provides-i...

Are these s ever going to give it up?

Correct, the negative aspect which I hadn't fully grasped when I posted, is that this is a green light to NHS covid testing before ops etc until well into 2023. Plus weekly testing for NHS workers I assume, which will see c5% off at any one time (perhaps more?). So expect the current backlog to be bigger this time next year

Although if you mean the JCVI, I (still) think that's a rather balanced and nuanced assessment, and one I heartily wish they'd done (or stuck to) initially. We all remember "15m jabs to freedom" (that's the eldest most vunerable 7.5m double jabbed twice....). At which point did it pivot from that, to everyone? Must have been some point in around Feb/ March 2021 at a guess....?

Not been on twitter this evening, I expect the "jab everyone" brigade are raging?

Edited by johnboy1975 on Thursday 19th May 21:47

I note that the phrase being used is “protection against Severe Covid” - I wonder how long the protection actually lasts for………

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Boringvolvodriver said:

I note that the phrase being used is “protection against Severe Covid” - I wonder how long the protection actually lasts for………

Doesn’t matter if it works or how long it lasts. This is about protecting granny and doing the right thing.