Tommy Robinson attacked at McDonald’s

[andr3w]

To those labelling Tommy Robinson racist.

I wonder how you would respond if a white, let's say cult, gradually began to make it's way into our culture and brought all the same nice things that Islam brings to the table. And a slightly uncouth, working class, brown person spoke up against it. Would you react the same? I suspect you would treat the situation differently. So in that case, who are the real racists?

[Boydie88]

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Alpinestars said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

Alpinestars said:

Boydie88 said:

Moderates are the ones that support the extremist action but won't have the guts to do it themselves.

I guess it comes down to what you class moderate as though.

The average Muslim on the street is generally moderate.

Needs to be qualified, one persons moderate and all that.

They shouldn’t need to qualify anything to you, me or TR. If he’s tainting and tarring them, it’s for him to prove.

Hopefully, your one man’s moderate mantra, applies equally to TR and his supporters.

I did not say anyone other than you need to qualify your statement by giving some edges to it. Go on then, tell me what a "Moderate" is.

Naturally I would and vigorously.

[IforB]

Boydie88 said:

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

This horse is smart enough to realise when it isn't water, but liquid manure that is being put in front of him...

[berlintaxi]

andr3w said:

To those labelling Tommy Robinson racist.

I wonder how you would respond if a white, let's say cult, gradually began to make it's way into our culture and brought all the same nice things that Islam brings to the table. And a slightly uncouth, working class, brown person spoke up against it. Would you react the same? I suspect you would treat the situation differently. So in that case, who are the real racists?

[ZedLeg]

Boydie88 said:

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

You can't make it profile a whole group of people based on the actions of a minority?

[Zod]

andr3w said:

To those labelling Tommy Robinson racist.

I wonder how you would respond if a white, let's say cult, gradually began to make it's way into our culture and brought all the same nice things that Islam brings to the table. And a slightly uncouth, working class, brown person spoke up against it. Would you react the same? I suspect you would treat the situation differently. So in that case, who are the real racists?

Well, the white members wouldn't be immigrants, so there could be no suspicion of a hidden anti-white immigrant agenda, so we'd just say they were nasty fascists, like Tommy Robinson (or Anjum Choudhury).

[Boydie88]

IforB said:

Boydie88 said:

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

This horse is smart enough to realise when it isn't water, but liquid manure that is being put in front of him...

Go and visit any where in Europe where the Muslim population has exploded and you'll see for yourself.

And to say the EU isn't in a mess is just comical.

[Boydie88]

ZedLeg said:

Boydie88 said:

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

You can't make it profile a whole group of people based on the actions of a minority?

Sadly it's a very loud and visible minority. Facts don't lie and the rise in populism across Europe sums up the attitudes of those that have endured it.

[Alpinestars]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Alpinestars said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

Alpinestars said:

Boydie88 said:

Moderates are the ones that support the extremist action but won't have the guts to do it themselves.

I guess it comes down to what you class moderate as though.

The average Muslim on the street is generally moderate.

Needs to be qualified, one persons moderate and all that.

They shouldn’t need to qualify anything to you, me or TR. If he’s tainting and tarring them, it’s for him to prove.

Hopefully, your one man’s moderate mantra, applies equally to TR and his supporters.

I did not say anyone other than you need to qualify your statement by giving some edges to it. Go on then, tell me what a "Moderate" is.

Naturally I would and vigorously.

You’d need to define radical first. And in the context of TR, that seems to be someone who wants to blow us all up and members of rape gangs for starters. So in that context it’s, someone who doesn’t want to blow us all up and isn’t a member of a rape gang - even though the latter has noting to do with Islam.

[anonymous-user]

Zod said:

Well, the white members wouldn't be immigrants, so there could be no suspicion of a hidden anti-white immigrant agenda, so we'd just say they were nasty fascists, like Tommy Robinson (or Anjum Choudhury).

People don't seem that keen on the eastern Europeans as well.

Perhaps after all, they are the last truly British people we will ever know.

As an aside I thought TR had moved on from Muslims now to make it all about free speech. He's working his tail off for your rights, Zod so show him some respect

And as a final general question are his friends all massive or is he a bit small?

[del mar]

ZedLeg said:

You can't make it profile a whole group of people based on the actions of a minority?

Course you can, everybody who opposes unskilled uneducated immigration is a racist failure in life.

[Zod]

del mar said:

ZedLeg said:

You can't make it profile a whole group of people based on the actions of a minority?

Course you can, everybody who opposes unskilled uneducated immigration is a racist failure in life.

It's not all about you, del mar.

[IforB]

Boydie88 said:

IforB said:

Boydie88 said:

"What warning?"

You can lead a horse to water.

This horse is smart enough to realise when it isn't water, but liquid manure that is being put in front of him...

Go and visit any where in Europe where the Muslim population has exploded and you'll see for yourself.

And to say the EU isn't in a mess is just comical.

Okey Dokey, so in 20 years as an airline pilot, I've been to many countries around the world. This means I definitely know you are spouting absolute garbage.

Where specifically are you talking about? For example, Germany that has taken in large numbers of refugees from war torn countries or are you talking about Libya or Syria? Both places I have been to many times in the past and absolutely loved, though wouldn;t be so keen to visit right now.
How about Beirut or the Lebanon, again, beautiful places filled with some of the kindest and most hospitable people you could ever meet?

I mean, I wouldn;t want to point out that you appear to simply be an anti-Muslim nutjob, but hell, you're doing a good job of impersonating one if not.

[Boydie88]

IforB said:

Okey Dokey, so in 20 years as an airline pilot, I've been to many countries around the world. This means I definitely know you are spouting absolute garbage.

Where specifically are you talking about? For example, Germany that has taken in large numbers of refugees from war torn countries or are you talking about Libya or Syria? Both places I have been to many times in the past and absolutely loved, though wouldn;t be so keen to visit right now.
How about Beirut or the Lebanon, again, beautiful places filled with some of the kindest and most hospitable people you could ever meet?

I mean, I wouldn;t want to point out that you appear to simply be an anti-Muslim nutjob, but hell, you're doing a good job of impersonating one if not.

Been to Stockholm, was eating breakfast while one Muslim stabbed a Policeman outside our hotel.

Witnessed a Muslim group screaming doctrine outside Cologne cathedral (they had a fun new year a year back) and the friends we were with said that's daily now.

Italy. Como, Milan and especially Genoa full of them begging and intimidating visitors.

France. Just got to look at the clips of the Paris suburbs and then the warnings I got about all those likely to be on the road as you approach Calais.

So no, not garbage. My own experience. And going by the increasing populism vote, other's don't like it either.

Facts don't care about your feelings, even if you are some holier than thou pilot.

[IforB]

andr3w said:

To those labelling Tommy Robinson racist.

I wonder how you would respond if a white, let's say cult, gradually began to make it's way into our culture and brought all the same nice things that Islam brings to the table. And a slightly uncouth, working class, brown person spoke up against it. Would you react the same? I suspect you would treat the situation differently. So in that case, who are the real racists?

Of course Yaxley-Lennon is racist. He might not be able to spell it, but he definitely meets the criteria. As are you if you think he's anything but.

Dress it up anyway you like to try and justify it to yourself and try and make yourself feel less like a scumbag, but that doesn't change the reality of what he and you are.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Alpinestars said:

You’d need to define radical first. And in the context of TR, that seems to be someone who wants to blow us all up and members of rape gangs for starters. So in that context it’s, someone who doesn’t want to blow us all up and isn’t a member of a rape gang - even though the latter has noting to do with Islam.

Ok, I "must", why ? twas you who used a term that was designed to let you direct the conversation toward your "normal" subjects.

What is Moderate ?

[colin_p]

IforB said:

What warning?

Seriously, I hear this all the time "oh you have to listen to these warnings and take them seriously etc.etc." However, the fact is that there is no coming Muslim apocalypse, the EU is not about to fail and the sun will continue to shine.

If you want warnings to take heed of, then look at the warnings with some basis in fact. Global warming, plastic pollution, deforestation, rising sea-levels etc.etc.

Those are the warnings we should be worried about, not some nebulous made up nonsense designed purely as a way of justifying awful behaviour as if it has a point.

You obviously don't quite get the fact that we live in a multi-cultural society and are scared witless of those who are a bit different. What exactly are you expecting to happen? Sharia law, ISIS marching up and down the high street beheading people left right and centre?

Come on man, that is just bonkers. I'll just ask, have you actually ever met someone who is Muslim?

What warning?

History.

It cannot be re-written and objects in time are closer than you think.

Fourteen hundred years of bloody conquest is a hard habit to break. The swords may not be drawn but the objective is still the same as it ever was.

Sun Tzu said:

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

LOL

[Boydie88]

IforB said:

Of course Yaxley-Lennon is racist. He might not be able to spell it, but he definitely meets the criteria. As are you if you think he's anything but.

Dress it up anyway you like to try and justify it to yourself and try and make yourself feel less like a scumbag, but that doesn't change the reality of what he and you are.

"a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."

What race? Utter bks IforB.

[e30m3Mark]

Boydie88 said:

IforB said:

Okey Dokey, so in 20 years as an airline pilot, I've been to many countries around the world. This means I definitely know you are spouting absolute garbage.

Where specifically are you talking about? For example, Germany that has taken in large numbers of refugees from war torn countries or are you talking about Libya or Syria? Both places I have been to many times in the past and absolutely loved, though wouldn;t be so keen to visit right now.
How about Beirut or the Lebanon, again, beautiful places filled with some of the kindest and most hospitable people you could ever meet?

I mean, I wouldn;t want to point out that you appear to simply be an anti-Muslim nutjob, but hell, you're doing a good job of impersonating one if not.

Been to Stockholm, was eating breakfast while one Muslim stabbed a Policeman outside our hotel.

Witnessed a Muslim group screaming doctrine outside Cologne cathedral (they had a fun new year a year back) and the friends we were with said that's daily now.

Italy. Como, Milan and especially Genoa full of them begging and intimidating visitors.

France. Just got to look at the clips of the Paris suburbs and then the warnings I got about all those likely to be on the road as you approach Calais.

So no, not garbage. My own experience. And going by the increasing populism vote, other's don't like it either.

Facts don't care about your feelings, even if you are some holier than thou pilot.

Why are so many victims of these attacks Muslims?