Election 2019

Poll: Election 2019

Total Members Polled: 1601

Conservative Party: 58%
Labour: 8%
Lib Dem: 19%
Green: 1%
Brexit Party: 7%
UKIP: 0%
SNP: 1%
Plaid Cymru: 0%
Other.: 2%
Spoil ballot paper. : 5%
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dreamcracker

3,220 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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HoHoHo said:
I suspect that sadly I will wake up tomorrow morning with a result that I don’t want, it’s a rerun of the Brexit morning when most thought it was a given we would stay in...
I think you will find that most thought we would leave, and that was the result.

Earthdweller

13,640 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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AJL308 said:
You definitely won't be. I hope they are not £Sterling accounts as that will tank. US$ is what is needed, I'd suggest?
No not sterling .. initially Euro as I’m currently resident in the EU and have it set up to do it instantly straight into my Euro bank accounts

But, I have family in the US so some may get sent that way

I’m just sitting to wait and see what happens tonight

Bit squeaky bum laugh

It wouldn’t surprise me if one of the first things Corbyn does is put in currency controls

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
egor110 said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
GBP still crashing.

Whilst I do have other currency accounts - I have a mortgage and career here so picking up and leaving isn't so straightforward.
Recommendations perhaps, Austria? Germany?
Gold ?
For I.T bods like myself, plenty of high-paying work in Dublin, NL and Belgium. There was plenty in Germany last year but it appears to have tanked unless you do SAP.

Going to vote once I pick the the other half up in about half an hour from work and then off to the supermarket to pick up some more beer and then its all eyes on the exit poll.

Whatever the result it will be one the TV event's of the year. Labour can't get into power this time, most likely outcome apart from a small majority will be a Con+Lib+DUP lineup with a second EU referendum as the calf given.



Edited by Carl_Manchester on Thursday 12th December 18:11
At least you will have the option as Corbyn would retain FoM.

Keoparakolo

987 posts

55 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Earthdweller said:
Absolutely I will .. I’ve prepared for it for several months

All my uk assets are now in places where I can move them immediately

It’s cost me a little in lost interest, but if push comes to shove it could save me a lot in the long term

smile
If you had liquid assets of any real value you’d have either dealt with this earlier, or never had to worry as risks like this can be hedged against well in advance. What are you doing with tour fixed assets? Have you sold your house? Car? Art?

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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stongle said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Helicopter123 said:
No it isn't.

If there was a sniff of Corbyn getting in we would below USD1.30 by now.

Turnout the unknown factor at this stage but no sense of panic from the FX markets which bodes well for a Boris majority.
Fair enough on the levels - I'm only looking at today for now on 30min ticks but we're down 0.76% just on the uncertainty alone.
Both EUR and GBP down Vs UD, and that's despite Lagardes upbeat assessment. GBP is UNDER sold, ot should be lower, it's been on a 4 day bull run.

It has to pair back next week regardless of whatever the result. Using highly liquid financial market data, but not understanding it in context is dangerous. It's also easy to risk reversal when the data looks st. Bit hard for the electorate.

Wafer thin right now, hopefully its 20, 10 is doable any less and it's a UK fail

I'd still vote LibDems a billion times over if it buried the Labour party (or the Momentum version) for good.

Squeaky bums.
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.

CAPP0

19,641 posts

204 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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The only miniscule crumb of comfort I could draw from a Corbyn victory is that he'll never be able to decide what to do about Brexit and therefore it will still be easy to bugger off and live in another EU country.

HoHoHo

15,000 posts

251 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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dreamcracker said:
HoHoHo said:
I suspect that sadly I will wake up tomorrow morning with a result that I don’t want, it’s a rerun of the Brexit morning when most thought it was a given we would stay in...
I think you will find that most thought we would leave, and that was the result.
Wasn’t the case in my neck of the woods and still isn’t, but I’m not getting into a leave not leave argument simply saying how it was for me.

philv

3,981 posts

215 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
stongle said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Helicopter123 said:
No it isn't.

If there was a sniff of Corbyn getting in we would below USD1.30 by now.

Turnout the unknown factor at this stage but no sense of panic from the FX markets which bodes well for a Boris majority.
Fair enough on the levels - I'm only looking at today for now on 30min ticks but we're down 0.76% just on the uncertainty alone.
Both EUR and GBP down Vs UD, and that's despite Lagardes upbeat assessment. GBP is UNDER sold, ot should be lower, it's been on a 4 day bull run.

It has to pair back next week regardless of whatever the result. Using highly liquid financial market data, but not understanding it in context is dangerous. It's also easy to risk reversal when the data looks st. Bit hard for the electorate.

Wafer thin right now, hopefully its 20, 10 is doable any less and it's a UK fail

I'd still vote LibDems a billion times over if it buried the Labour party (or the Momentum version) for good.

Squeaky bums.
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.
st!
The markets are spooked?
Is there something going on today?

Perhaps an election?

Earthdweller

13,640 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Keoparakolo said:
Earthdweller said:
Absolutely I will .. I’ve prepared for it for several months

All my uk assets are now in places where I can move them immediately

It’s cost me a little in lost interest, but if push comes to shove it could save me a lot in the long term

smile
If you had liquid assets of any real value you’d have either dealt with this earlier, or never had to worry as risks like this can be hedged against well in advance. What are you doing with tour fixed assets? Have you sold your house? Car? Art?
Yep .. house in UK sold

House in EU bought outright

Cars now owned outright and registered outside the UK apart from one which is old and not particularly valuable and the tax in the EU on it is mental because it’s got a big engine smile

What art I have is hanging on the wall .. think £500 is the most I’ve ever spent on a picture smile

The only thing I can’t control at the moment is that both my wife and I work in the UK and are paid in sterling

If the Tories get in tomorrow no worries .. I’ll reinvest in the UK

Most has gone .. there’s just some cash left

If not, I’m out smile

Robertj21a

16,487 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.
Bad post.

Keoparakolo

987 posts

55 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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CAPP0 said:
The only miniscule crumb of comfort I could draw from a Corbyn victory is that he'll never be able to decide what to do about Brexit and therefore it will still be easy to bugger off and live in another EU country.
I have to say that this hypocrisy did make me chuckle when others suggested leaving and named a few EU countries as their preferred choices.

I don’t see why everyone is panicking. This isn’t an “either / or” election. If the Tories don’t win outright they will still be the single biggest party. Labour won’t have the opportunity to form a government with any of the parties likely to have enough seats to mathematically allow it, as none of them will go onto coalition with Corbyn.

It would either be a Conservative + A N Other with a second referendum being the key reason they’ve meant support, or a minority Tory government where they eventually realise that Brexit is hurting not helping them.

stongle

5,910 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.
I think its hedging, way to close to call now. Better to lock in a small loss tonight, than a large one tomorrow if they got it wrong. Its jittery, but there is no data either way yet. The stringers might be counting students in and out, and anecdotally I also witnessed lots at the apolling station today. But nothing concrete, yet.

I'm repeating (market trick), wish that the Lib Dems capitalised better on Remain.

Terminator X

15,184 posts

205 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Sargeant Orange said:
Huge turnouts around my local area in the south west. The brexit party vote is going to split the Cons vote badly.

Get your trousers down & your wallets out lads, there's a Corbyn alliance coming over that hill
They aren't standing in Conservative strongholds though eg no Brexit party where I live as in 2017 it was 37k Tory 11k Labour.

TX.

Terminator X

15,184 posts

205 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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chrispmartha said:
Didn’t we have a few Brexiteers on here saying a drop in the value of the pound was a great thing when it happened after they had ‘won’
Great for tourism and exports?

TX.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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stongle said:
Helicopter123 said:
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.
I think its hedging, way to close to call now. Better to lock in a small loss tonight, than a large one tomorrow if they got it wrong. Its jittery, but there is no data either way yet. The stringers might be counting students in and out, and anecdotally I also witnessed lots at the apolling station today. But nothing concrete, yet.

I'm repeating (market trick), wish that the Lib Dems capitalised better on Remain.
Could be, but movement now around 1% which is on the very edge of concerning. I'm reading very small Conservative majority.

Lib Dems took a bold, principled stand on Brexit but were frozen out by the media - Jo never stood a chance without being in the leaders debate. No re-run of that "I agree with Nick" moment.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Earthdweller said:
Yep .. house in UK sold

House in EU bought outright

Cars now owned outright and registered outside the UK apart from one which is old and not particularly valuable and the tax in the EU on it is mental because it’s got a big engine smile

What art I have is hanging on the wall .. think £500 is the most I’ve ever spent on a picture smile

The only thing I can’t control at the moment is that both my wife and I work in the UK and are paid in sterling

If the Tories get in tomorrow no worries .. I’ll reinvest in the UK

Most has gone .. there’s just some cash left

If not, I’m out smile
A very kneejerk reaction against the odds to something that will most probably never happen. Or perhaps because you've moved to the EU in any case then it makes sense, in which case you'd have done what you'd have done anyway regardless of who won the election. So perhaps you're deliberately trying to obscure the real reasons for your transfers to show your support for the Tory's and Brexit? Still, a UK person living and working in the EU and somehow supporting Brexit! Can't be many of them? All in all a very strange situation/post which does not make sense or seem very credible on many levels.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Steve vRS said:
chrispmartha said:
It’s like a parody site sometimes on here :-)
I take everything in this particular sub forum with a huge pinch of salt.
Me too....but I can't stop reading it! hehe
I’ll be sleeping with one eye on the phone laptop

Terminator X

15,184 posts

205 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Earthdweller said:
Yep .. house in UK sold

House in EU Europe bought outright
Corrected for you, the EU is not Europe jester

TX.

Chris-xzk0j

36 posts

75 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Andy20vt said:
chrispmartha said:
Didn’t we have a few Brexiteers on here saying a drop in the value of the pound was a great thing when it happened after they had ‘won’
The Brexit lot change their tune according to whatever suits at the time. It's almost like they don't have a plan. Hmmmm.
Just a quick question Andy, do you have a Fiat 20v Turbo? I don’t want to assume anything.

768

13,770 posts

97 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Now below USD1.31.

If we get below USD 1.30 I think we can agree something is spooking the markets.

This was my fear all along. Boris could have swallowed his pride and called a Brexit referendum but instead went st or bust with a GE, risking Corbyn.
hehe
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