Give us a fracking break!

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Mr Whippy

29,159 posts

243 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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I'm amazed it's taken so long for someone to do that hehe

Three words.

Fast neutron reactor.

hidetheelephants

25,521 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Mr Whippy said:
I'm amazed it's taken so long for someone to do that hehe

Three words.

Fast neutron reactor.
Why the enthusiasm for fast reactors? Various fast reactor programmes have soaked up billions and produced very little except a lot of radioactive NaK and a lot of knowledge about how not to build a fast reactor. That money could have produced useful results in thermal spectrum reactor research and given a practical alternative to PWRs and their endemic inefficiencies.

Mr Whippy

29,159 posts

243 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Mr Whippy said:
I'm amazed it's taken so long for someone to do that hehe

Three words.

Fast neutron reactor.
Why the enthusiasm for fast reactors? Various fast reactor programmes have soaked up billions and produced very little except a lot of radioactive NaK and a lot of knowledge about how not to build a fast reactor. That money could have produced useful results in thermal spectrum reactor research and given a practical alternative to PWRs and their endemic inefficiencies.
Various programmes have likely done the same for any new method of tapping energy resources.

Maybe I shouldn't have isolated one method of fission, but the spirit of the point is the same.

I'm 100% against fracking unless the wealth that is generated from it goes towards a brighter energy future for the UK.

Dave

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

162 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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This just came up on my FB feed:

http://wrongmove.org/

rolleyes








Du1point8

21,620 posts

194 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Strange that if I put my central london postcode in there Im in for bad news as they will be fracking very close to my post code.

Its also awful that they will be doing it next to 10 downing street according to that site.

nelly1

5,631 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Its also awful that they will be doing it next to 10 downing street according to that ste.
EFA

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

206 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Strange that if I put my central london postcode in there Im in for bad news as they will be fracking very close to my post code.

Its also awful that they will be doing it next to 10 downing street according to that site.
Put our works address in and we are safe

No oil and gas development near aberdeen

HD Adam

5,155 posts

186 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Hello. Oil Biz person here.

No need for post codes. If you want a rough idea, here's where the Shale is in the UK.

If you live in the Red bit, you're over it but you obviously wouldn't drill right in the middle of Oxford and start Fracking there.



Better make a start soon because once the sanctions start with Russia over the Crimea, we could start getting a bit short of gas scratchchin

Blib

44,482 posts

199 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Hello oil person. wavey

What's the conservative estimate for accessible shale gas? I've seen numbers for the Blackpool deposits. But, not for those down south.

mrpurple

2,624 posts

190 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Wonder if the IOW will have a referendum and seek independence to keep their revenues?

Catweazle

1,320 posts

144 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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mrpurple said:
Wonder if the IOW will have a referendum and seek independence to keep their revenues?
Duty free on the IOW ferry.

hidetheelephants

25,521 posts

195 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Blib said:
Hello oil person. wavey

What's the conservative estimate for accessible shale gas? I've seen numbers for the Blackpool deposits. But, not for those down south.
How long is a piece of string? Until they do test bores and flow tests it's a complete guess, as the nature of the shale is different to the stuff they've got in the states.

mrpurple

2,624 posts

190 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Catweazle said:
mrpurple said:
Wonder if the IOW will have a referendum and seek independence to keep their revenues?
Duty free on the IOW ferry.
Duty free was banned a few years ago.. but on 2nd thoughts it would be outside the EU and have to apply to join just like Scotland will.

HD Adam

5,155 posts

186 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Blib said:
Hello oil person. wavey

What's the conservative estimate for accessible shale gas? I've seen numbers for the Blackpool deposits. But, not for those down south.
How long is a piece of string? Until they do test bores and flow tests it's a complete guess, as the nature of the shale is different to the stuff they've got in the states.
Current estimates are 1300 Trillion Cubic Feet and with current technology, only about 10% of that is recoverable so so say 130 Trillion Cubic Feet.

At current gas usage in the UK, that's about 50 years worth of self sufficiency.

There will be oil recoverable from that too.

Blib

44,482 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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Fifty years of self sufficiency. That offers the government the biggest no-brainer so far his century. It's a pity that the Green "tail" is wagging the political dog at the moment. frown

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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Blib said:
Fifty years of self sufficiency. That offers the government the biggest no-brainer so far his century. It's a pity that the Green "tail" is wagging the political dog at the moment. frown
Yep - at least 50 years of cheap, self-sufficient energy. Plenty of breathing space to develop new and better forms of energy in the meantime.

But of course, that won't happen. frown

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

162 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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hidetheelephants

25,521 posts

195 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Gogoplata said:
What a fking tool; free energy? Thank you, you drug-addled twonk; via the medium of this ridiculous BBC article you've introduced me to a font I hate more than Comic Sans. What the fk is that st? Chalkboard? Kristen? Whatever it is, it makes my teeth itch.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

206 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
Gogoplata said:
What a fking tool; free energy? Thank you, you drug-addled twonk; via the medium of this ridiculous BBC article you've introduced me to a font I hate more than Comic Sans. What the fk is that st? Chalkboard? Kristen? Whatever it is, it makes my teeth itch.
I'd vote for him happily

hidetheelephants

25,521 posts

195 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Which of his two clearly well considered manifesto points are you in favour of? Free energy or no fracking? Think carefully now...