Freedom from TV license oppression

[Funk]

There is no way a 'detector' can could work. It's smoke and mirrors and why they have always backed out of court cases where it became apparent that there may be a risk that they would have to prove their 'evidence'. TVL are scum, pure and simple.

Do not under any circumstances talk to them or let them into your home, even if you are, like me, law-abiding. There are many examples of stitch-ups and lying from TVL 'enforcement' officers. They are there to try and get money from you on any way possible. They are salesmen and will stop at nothing to try and stitch you up.

Do not engage them.

[Bill]

Do not engage them, and look evasive, or explain the situation and have them leave happy. I know what I have done.

[Funk]

One should not have to engage them just to be left in peace.

I'm guessing you also don't have a TV licence Bill?

[mph1977]

Funk said:

There is no way a 'detector' can could work. It's smoke and mirrors and why they have always backed out of court cases where it became apparent that there may be a risk that they would have to prove their 'evidence'. TVL are scum, pure and simple.

Do not under any circumstances talk to them or let them into your home, even if you are, like me, law-abiding. There are many examples of stitch-ups and lying from TVL 'enforcement' officers. They are there to try and get money from you on any way possible. They are salesmen and will stop at nothing to try and stitch you up.

Do not engage them.

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

[AA999]

mph1977 said:

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

You'd have to watch their old detector van adverts where they state something along the lines of "yes, he watching TV now, and he's watching columbo"....
it was always a total scam on the public, and always will be if they choose to continue the lies.

[mph1977]

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

You'd have to watch their old detector van adverts where they state something along the lines of "yes, he watching TV now, and he's watching columbo"....
it was always a total scam on the public, and always will be if they choose to continue the lies.

you do understand the role of a local frequency in decoding sound and/or vision signals sent by 'radio' / 'microwave'?

[Bill]

Funk said:

One should not have to engage them just to be left in peace.

I'm guessing you also don't have a TV licence Bill?

I haven't had in the past, but do now. When I haven't I've filed any letters where they belong and been civil to anyone who's turned up.

[GTiRichTea]

Its is possible to view what you are watching i don't think they actually do it though.
I am sure its not perfect and also i don't know how they would be able to prove that it was your TV they could see, if it was not visible as they were doing it, otherwise it could very well be your neighbors TV as all they are doing is picking up a signal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

But still i agree with Funk why should he be harassed at all, the sooner they get rid of the license and the BBC all the better.

[AA999]

mph1977 said:

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

You'd have to watch their old detector van adverts where they state something along the lines of "yes, he watching TV now, and he's watching columbo"....
it was always a total scam on the public, and always will be if they choose to continue the lies.

you do understand the role of a local frequency in decoding sound and/or vision signals sent by 'radio' / 'microwave'?

Are you telling me that a van, even in the days of transistor TVs, could detect what an individual was watching in isolation to all the other TVs that may have been turned on?.... even if it was a solitary TV, that they'd be able to pin-point it to a particular property and room....all as advertised by their fear provoking 'adverts'?

If so, then happy to stand corrected.

Edited by AA999 on Sunday 20th July 11:55

[gpo746]

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

You'd have to watch their old detector van adverts where they state something along the lines of "yes, he watching TV now, and he's watching columbo"....
it was always a total scam on the public, and always will be if they choose to continue the lies.

you do understand the role of a local frequency in decoding sound and/or vision signals sent by 'radio' / 'microwave'?

Are you telling me that a van, even in the days of transistor TVs, could detect what an individual was watching in isolation to all the other TVs that may have been turned on?.... even if it was a solitary TV, that they'd be able to pin-point it to a particular property and room....all as advertised by their fear provoking 'adverts'?

If so, then happy to stand corrected.

Edited by AA999 on Sunday 20th July 11:55

Only if they were watching Columbo

[mph1977]

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

AA999 said:

mph1977 said:

detection technology might have worked in the valved / transistorised era but it's smoke and mirrors now with solid state electronics and no CRT in the average telly.

You'd have to watch their old detector van adverts where they state something along the lines of "yes, he watching TV now, and he's watching columbo"....
it was always a total scam on the public, and always will be if they choose to continue the lies.

you do understand the role of a local frequency in decoding sound and/or vision signals sent by 'radio' / 'microwave'?

Are you telling me that a van, even in the days of transistor TVs, could detect what an individual was watching in isolation to all the other TVs that may have been turned on?.... even if it was a solitary TV, that they'd be able to pin-point it to a particular property and room....all as advertised by their fear provoking 'adverts'?

If so, then happy to stand corrected.

Edited by AA999 on Sunday 20th July 11:55

RDF anyone ?

[Funk]

If they're able to catch you in the act without alerting you, why do they need to knock on your door and inspect the equipment (which could be legally connected to an aerial for digital radio and tells them nothing at all)? The 'detector' vans are empty lies (literally) and the reason they knock on the door is to try and catch the stupid in the act or - mostly - to try and trick you into 'admitting' you were or need a licence.

They're scum.

[jmorgan]

Fartomatic5000 said:

jmorgan said:

If you think you are in the right then let them in?

Why let a complete stranger working for a private company in to snoop around my private home and my kids' bedrooms? I work for a large software company, so why not post your address here and I'll have someone call round next week to make sure you aren't using our software without a license. If you think you are in the right you should let them in.

Why not, everyone is saying how right they are, thought it would be an elegant solution.....

[Tunku]

Funk said:

Today I had the pleasure of a visit. I wasn't in, they left an ominous-looking document that inferred all sorts and was promptly binned. I wonder how many visits they'll make? I'm never here in the day and I don't bother answering the door unless I'm expecting someone, I wonder how much each visit costs and if they finally decide it's not worth the money pursuing? Rather than leave me in peace, they're now actually spending money on me. Morons.

What'll be interesting is to see how this plays out. I don't watch live TV at all. Although it would be perfectly legal to do so, I don't have any form of connection to a signal either. The screen cannot be seen from outside (2nd floor) and cannot be seen from the front door even if it were wide open. Their only way of actually getting in to the property would be with a warrant, and in order to obtain said warrant they would have to provide 'evidence' that I was watching live TV. Even gaining entry proves nothing because, as has been said before, it's not illegal to have a TV connected to a digital aerial for the purposes of receiving digital radio. Even if they found a TV connected it wouldn't be breaking the law. There is no way they possibly COULD observe me breaking the law (even if I were doing so), so I'm not really sure why they want to visit.

Either way they're not coming in which will serve to anger them I'm sure.

I decided 6 months ago that live TV was too expensive to maintain afer being made redundant and wanting to keep living in my home by hook or by crook, decided live telly was one of the things we could live without in the interim. I did not expect the accusatory "you are under investigation" which followed. I have at the moment enough stress in my life without these clowns adding to it.

[McWigglebum4th]

BUMP

the TV license will be dead in 15 years time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31623...


To be replaced by a mandatory tax on everyone whether you watch the idiot box or not



Be careful what you wish far

[Martin4x4]

Yet another example of the Tories wreaking everything that is good in Britain.

[anonymous-user]

Martin4x4 said:

Yet another example of the Tories wreaking everything that is good in Britain.

Yeah.......


Culture, Media and Sport Committee – membership


Mr John Whittingdale (Chair) Conservative
Mr Ben Bradshaw Labour
Angie Bray Conservative
Conor Burns Conservative
Tracey Crouch Conservative
Philip Davies Conservative
Paul Farrelly Labour
Mr John Leech Liberal Democrat
Steve Rotheram Labour
Jim Sheridan Labour
Mr Gerry Sutcliffe Labour

[grumbledoak]

An honest government mouthpiece has got to be better than Labour's PR department pretending it is impartial.

As for 'wreaked', I think the lefties wrecked the BBC long ago.

[Funk]

McWigglebum4th said:

BUMP

the TV license will be dead in 15 years time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31623...


To be replaced by a mandatory tax on everyone whether you watch the idiot box or not



Be careful what you wish far

I won't pay it. Simple as that.

[BlackLabel]

It's only a recommendation - and it sounds like they've picked the '15 year' figure from thin air. Shirley a non story?