Protesters blocking various M25 Junctions

[nikaiyo2]

turbobloke said:

Yes. Those items don't belong to other people whose lifestyle choices are there to be criticised and controlled.

Nor does your comment recognise the Zil Lane principle of anti-capitalist hypocrites who yet consider themeselves 'with the angels'.

So you are suggesting that a lot of those behind the green movement are just vaguely disguised lefties? How very dare you, their ideology is what everyone wants they have no need to hide their intentions, every one would want to live in a workers paradise.

I dont understand why groups like this are allowed to protest without funding the police presence? Would it not make sense to make protestors jointly and severally liable for the costs of the deomnstration? If you put on a music event or sports event the police will charge you to attend..

[808 Estate]

nikaiyo2 said:

I dont understand why groups like this are allowed to protest without funding the police presence? Would it not make sense to make protestors jointly and severally liable for the costs of the deomnstration? If you put on a music event or sports event the police will charge you to attend..

I think I will put on an illegal rave and call it a peaceful protest. Therefore the Police cant shut it down.

[Digga]

808 Estate said:

nikaiyo2 said:

I dont understand why groups like this are allowed to protest without funding the police presence? Would it not make sense to make protestors jointly and severally liable for the costs of the deomnstration? If you put on a music event or sports event the police will charge you to attend..

I think I will put on an illegal rave and call it a peaceful protest. Therefore the Police cant shut it down.

In Yer Face!

[Langweilig]

I think "Zen and the Art of the Bloody Good Kicking" would be a good response to this.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/it-s-not-fai...

[s p a c e m a n]

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

[turbobloke]

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

[swisstoni]

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

[trackdemon]

swisstoni said:

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

Article suggests it's more likely a potential jumper rather than JSO. But that could just be obfuscation

[turbobloke]

trackdemon said:

swisstoni said:

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

Article suggests it's more likely a potential jumper rather than JSO. But that could just be obfuscation

Good job conditional wording was used ^ (apparently, could be, and if).

Somebody in crisis...hopefully they get help in time, and hopefully traffic is flowing normally,

Also, the article was updated at 12.28 after replies on PH, the original version article may have been different.

Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 12th March 14:24

[s p a c e m a n]

Yeah the original article and most of the other sources stated people on the carriageway. That's all that the jso lot have managed to achieve, as soon as something like this happens around here it's assumed that it's those dheads

[Louis Balfour]

trackdemon said:

swisstoni said:

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

Article suggests it's more likely a potential jumper rather than JSO. But that could just be obfuscation

Reporting can be awry with the reasons for stuff, if it is politically sensitive. The repairs to a local road were delayed here recently because "drivers had threatened road workers". It wasn't "drivers" it was Gypsies who thought the road repairs were a bit too noisy next to their unlawful encampment.

[trackdemon]

turbobloke said:

trackdemon said:

swisstoni said:

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

Article suggests it's more likely a potential jumper rather than JSO. But that could just be obfuscation

Good job conditional wording was used ^ (apparently, could be, and if).

Somebody in crisis...hopefully they get help in time, and hopefully traffic is flowing normally,

Also, the article was updated at 12.28 after replies on PH, the original version article may have been different.

Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 12th March 14:24

tbf any idiot following the JSO doctrinine is definitely suffering a crisis

[turbobloke]

trackdemon said:

turbobloke said:

trackdemon said:

swisstoni said:

turbobloke said:

s p a c e m a n said:

They're out on the Dartford bridge again apparently

https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/m25-dar...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Tuesday 12th March 07:33

It could be raining, and if the protest is disrupting a major transport route (again) it's law-breaking wets getting wet.

It’s raining alright. What a pity.

Article suggests it's more likely a potential jumper rather than JSO. But that could just be obfuscation

Good job conditional wording was used ^ (apparently, could be, and if).

Somebody in crisis...hopefully they get help in time, and hopefully traffic is flowing normally,

Also, the article was updated at 12.28 after replies on PH, the original version article may have been different.

Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 12th March 14:24

tbf any idiot following the JSO doctrinine is definitely suffering a crisis

GPWM

[turbobloke]

Some good news emerged from the Appeal Court yesterday.

-Court of Appeal has ruled climate change activists and similar protesters will be unable use “political or philosophical beliefs” as a defence against criminal damage



Three judges ruled a cc protester defence - which led to their acquittal - should not have been allowed



-somehow a ruling emerged that claimed a property owner would have consented to damage if they had been aware of the full impact of climate change



-the Court of appeal said this was “too remote” to be classed as a “lawful excuse" (being away with the climate fairies is certainly remote)



-the muppet, identified as XX for legal reasons, successfully used the daft defence but Attorney General Victoria Prentis required the Court of Appeal to review the judgement, and they kicked it into the long grass



Potentially there's still the Supreme Court with its infinite wisdom to navigate, so no cigar yet.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/political-beli...

[turbobloke]

There are a couple of short, sweet and peachy comments from Kat Pat and danmg if you can get in to read them.

[CT05 Nose Cone]

Casper and Genevieve, enough said.


https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1770093336...

[Biggy Stardust]

CT05 Nose Cone said:

Casper and Genevieve, enough said.


https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1770093336...

If their point is vaid then why the need to scatter confetti?

[turbobloke]

Biggy Stardust said:

CT05 Nose Cone said:

Casper and Genevieve, enough said.


https://twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1770093336...

If their point is vaid then why the need to scatter confetti?

It's not valid and I won't move very far away from the protesters and their feeble excuses, nor any longer than necessary, to show why.

In the climate politics thread (related) there have been inter alia two peer-reviewed papers posted and discussed (briefly) recently, at least one may have disappeared as it looks as though one of the few climate crisis activists over there has been complaining that I 'copy and paste' from copyright research papers contrary to Rule 16 when I don't, in an attempt to get them removed from the thread. It may have worked. Pathetic.

Anyway, the two 2023 & 2024 research papers, one or none of which may still be there, concluded by examining actual data (rather than making assumptions / using tuned parameterisations in place of complex science within inadequate climate models) that:

-the top of atmosphere (TOA) radiative imbalance over recent decades - this is the 'is earth heating up' thing - is explained by solar SW radiative change rather than the basis in inadequate models
-the so-called enhanced greenhouse effect, when explored via LW radiative change over the last 100 years, has shown no discernible effect from the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide from fossil fuels over that entire time - this is the manmade climate change thing

These two results alone, consistent and relevant, show that the supposed case these muppets have is imaginary and dogma / faith-based. You won't find this in BBC coverage (so far) and now you might not find it on PH due to frit censorious types looking to stifle debate.

ETA I trust that the above is clearly seen as relevant to the excuses being peddled by protesters, and the post I replied to, so no O/T icon is needed.

Edited by turbobloke on Wednesday 20th March 12:29

[Biggy Stardust]

CAUTION. Facts which might be upsetting to some posters:

[turbobloke]

Biggy Stardust said:

CAUTION. Facts which might be upsetting to some posters:

By 50m years ago, Just Stop Ice had done a good job.

Then the polar ice sheets returned, naturally, just as they vanished, naturally.