Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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valiant

10,425 posts

161 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Hereward said:
valiant said:
Not quite.

John McDonnell stood for the leadership when announced but failed to get enough votes to get on the ballot as per Labour rules...
And McDonnell is now in charge of the party despite no-one voting him in.
Corbyn resigned then?



biggbn

23,700 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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jakesmith said:
biggbn said:
Excellent point. But those who voted for labour had to swallow it, you don't vote for a person you vote for a party in theory if not in practice.

To be fair, anyone who doesn't believe Johnson was installed as premier is deluded, the farcical election was paying lip service to democracy, yet I would have had no problem had they just appointed him a la brown, why not, the party believe he is the right man for the job and they have the power
Hang on a minute what are you on about. It's hardly a conspiracy that one candidate was more popular for goodness sake.
Would you care to back up your frankly ludicrous assertion by naming some Tory candidates that did not run, or some procedural sharp practice that threw the contest?
If not I think you should appologise to your leader, Mr Boris Johnson.
Oh jakey boy, ever combatitive, I have no issue with how Boris came to power and would have had no problem had he been ceremoniously appointed for the reasons I gave. The election was farcical because of the quality of the candidates, an sad indictment of British politics today. That was the best the Tory Party could offer? It reminded me of Boris bowling over the ten year old playing rugby, he was obviously going to win but looked clumsy and foolish doing so. Right now I believe he would blow the labour party out of the water, particularly if he keeps shaking the bush, boss, shaking the bush, metaphorically speaking, and the magic money keeps appearing amongst the promissory unicorns. Again, a sad indictment of our parlous political class just now.

Edited by biggbn on Thursday 15th August 16:49

98elise

26,844 posts

162 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Le Controleur Horizontal said:
techiedave said:
Europa1 said:
What struck me this morning listening to Today was how many policies or plans of his are announced, yet how rarely he is interviewed in person about them. This morning it was Jess Phillips explaining his temporary government idea.
Well it might be very temporary for her. her local party is infiltrated with momentum types who hate her
I have ZERO sympathy for moderate Labour MP's....REAP what YOU sow you collection of idiots.
Mazel tov comrade!







Edited by 98elise on Friday 16th August 06:47

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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biggbn said:
I have no issue with how Boris came to power
biggbn said:
The election was farcical
WHATEVS!

A Winner Is You

25,016 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Genuine question - if he became a "caretaker" PM, would there be anything legally stopping him from just holding onto power for 5 years until he has to hold an election?

hidetheelephants

24,997 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Genuine question - if he became a "caretaker" PM, would there be anything legally stopping him from just holding onto power for 5 years until he has to hold an election?
I'd have thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act would mean an election has to happen in May 2022 at the latest, plus a confidence vote lost should mean an early bath at any time.

Gargamel

15,035 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Genuine question - if he became a "caretaker" PM, would there be anything legally stopping him from just holding onto power for 5 years until he has to hold an election?
Fixed Term Parliaments are five years, from each election. The clock does not reset just because there is a new PM.

If a new government is formed with a new PM there is every chance it will have to call an election anyway as I doubt it could pass any meaningful legislation as a minority or coalition.


Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Gargamel said:
A Winner Is You said:
Genuine question - if he became a "caretaker" PM, would there be anything legally stopping him from just holding onto power for 5 years until he has to hold an election?
Fixed Term Parliaments are five years, from each election. The clock does not reset just because there is a new PM.

If a new government is formed with a new PM there is every chance it will have to call an election anyway as I doubt it could pass any meaningful legislation as a minority or coalition.
Regardless, given their love for militant ways it’s a very relevant question. Luckily he just humiliated himself, again. No chance of the beardy tt getting out of his post code and soon enough he will be forced out which is a shame.

Edited by Burwood on Thursday 15th August 21:27

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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If Momentum get their stooge into No 10, it'll take physical war to get them out.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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I can see the Torys giving the vessel with the pestle to Jezza...whatever unfolds, unfolds, and then he gets the sting in the tail, ready for ready player two and three to fight it out in the real election.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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He would calm a snap election then stay on for 5 years from that
Anyway his plan has fallen flat as he is not liked or trusted in the HOC.
And thank goodness

Smollet

10,722 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Mothersruin said:
If Momentum get their stooge into No 10, it'll take physical war to get them out.
Poisonous stheads. They'll do anything to take over no10.

The Don of Croy

6,011 posts

160 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Smollet said:
Mothersruin said:
If Momentum get their stooge into No 10, it'll take physical war to get them out.
Poisonous stheads. They'll do anything to take over no10.
Why wouldn't they think so? It's been easy to get JC elected and maintained as leader up to now, and some weeks the polls put him in with a chance at PM.

Which hopefully gives Boris all the drive he needs to do an adequate job.

jurbie

2,349 posts

202 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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What's that saying? "Communism is weak in opposition and almost impossible to remove when in power". So yes, if he gets to No'10 now then he won't be giving it up anytime soon without one hell of a fight.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Some of the alternatves are just as ludicrous
I was reading somewhere that they though Harriet Harman should be the temp PM with Ken Clarke as deputy
It may have been the other way around

Dunno why they don't just round Rory Stewart as PM with Teresa May as Brexit secretary

Carl_Manchester

12,340 posts

263 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Stalinism says: cometh the moment of crisis,
cometh the man. keep rocking gently until government collapses. and he didn’t mean playing a status quo CD.

Steptoe: I will only be temporary, honest.



biggbn

23,700 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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jakesmith said:
biggbn said:
I have no issue with how Boris came to power
biggbn said:
The election was farcical
WHATEVS!
You see those statements as contradictory? I would have had no problem had Boris been the only name on the ticket and he had been personally anointed ones the step of no10 by Christ himself. He represents the party in power, they can play it how they like. That's democracy and work.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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jakesmith said:
He would calm a snap election then stay on for 5 years from that
Anyway his plan has fallen flat as he is not liked or trusted in the HOC.
And thank goodness
He would have to win it first.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
Stalinism says: cometh the moment of crisis,
cometh the man. keep rocking gently until government collapses. and he didn’t mean playing a status quo CD.

Steptoe: I will only be honest, temporary...


Fixed that for you.

FiF

44,294 posts

252 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Courtesy Twitter, if it's an old gag please ignore.

"Corbyn will make excellent caretaker PM, he dresses like a caretaker and is good at sweeping things under the carpet"

Meantime Gary Lineker has thrown his hat into the ring and declared he will be the perfect national unity leader. Well he meets the desired characteristic of a whiny dedicated Remainer. National Unity my arse.
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