CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 11)

CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 11)

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Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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garyhun said:
Nickgnome said:
The police consist of male and female officers that are obliged to uphold the law.

They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
Poor quality trolling. 1/10.
Suggest you read the report above. It may just educate you.



Ntv

5,177 posts

124 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome said:
Sanders123 said:
Ntv said:
Great to see the demos in London yesterday.

Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.

I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!

I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.

Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
The police have been just as bad as the government and the MSM throughout. They deserve everything they get.
The police consist of male and female officers that are obliged to uphold the law.

They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
The police are in an invidious position. Understandably they will be targeted. Not great in some ways. But it holds out the prospect of expediting change in the right direction

RECr

442 posts

52 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Well, here's my crackpot conspiracy theory.

The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.

The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.

As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.

By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.

Prove me wrong. laugh

Edited by RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat on Monday 26th April 11:59
The only co2 emissions that lockdown really prevents are those from travelling. Emissions from home heating etc will be untouched.

Certainly CV19 has been used as an excuse for some anti motoring measures. However for anti car types, their opposition to car use/ownership runs a lot deeper than just climate change.

cb31

1,144 posts

137 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome said:
The police consist of male and female officers that are obliged to uphold the law.

They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
It seems the police have different tactics based on whether the government likes the protest, they don't mind XR smashing things up and just let them go on with it, BLM protests are just fine as are huge vigils. The protest yesterday looked peaceful until the police went mob handed into the crowd, almost like they were trying to get a reaction.

It would have been better if the crowd just sat down and ignored them rather than rising to the bait though.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome said:
garyhun said:
Nickgnome said:
The police consist of male and female officers that are obliged to uphold the law.

They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
Poor quality trolling. 1/10.
Suggest you read the report above. It may just educate you.
I’m good thanks, troll.

Ignore script re-established.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Ntv said:
The police are in an invidious position. Understandably they will be targeted. Not great in some ways. But it holds out the prospect of expediting change in the right direction
Protesting is fine, I've done a few.

Violence is not ever and is counter productive as it alienates most people.

A very large scale protest will get attention smaller ones are largely ignored.

croyde

23,053 posts

231 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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danllama said:
croyde said:
Ex wife has been contacted by test and trace and has to isolate for 10 days.

She's had fekin Covid a few months ago, it was a week of being poorly, she's 51 and immunosuppressed due to cancer treatment but got through it fine, so why isolate?

Now means our wayward son who we've finally managed to get back to school on a reduced timetable, gets 2 weeks off again and back to square one. Plus a household close to implosion back to being imprisoned.

The wife has not been to a pub or anywhere apart from going out to get her nails done last week.

I think it's feking ridiculous and just another nail in the life of my family.

I told her to ignore it but she's too 'law' abiding.
She should definitely ignore it. Nobody has covid.
Wayward son is ignoring it. Still going out but using it as the perfect excuse not to go to school.

superlightr

12,865 posts

264 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome said:
Sanders123 said:
Ntv said:
Great to see the demos in London yesterday.

Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.

I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!

I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.

Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
The police have been just as bad as the government and the MSM throughout. They deserve everything they get.
The police consist of male and female officers that are obliged to uphold the law.

They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
its an unjust and immoral law and the police are an arm of the state. That arm needs a punch/slap to stop it grabbing and taking our freedoms and rights away.

The issue with what happened to the police was that THEY went in and tried to PUSH people out of the way, to disburse them when they were peacefully in the park at the end of the demo.

There was no need for the police to do anything. leave them.
Thus the police deserve what happened - that actual action of the police was appalling.

I used to support the Govt and thus the police but not anymore.

Edited by superlightr on Monday 26th April 12:27

Wolfmanjack

153 posts

38 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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anonymous said:
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I see this has been roundly ignored by our septuagenarian, millionaire, teenage model dating garden ornament.. instead using his and his colleagues time to go round in circles on topics of no consequence

981C

1,097 posts

149 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome said:
I have recently travelled, back to UK and was required to have a pre flight PCR not LFT within 72hours of departure. No test then not allowed to board.

Also had to evidence booking Day 2 and Day 8 Test kits sent to home. BTW its on or before Day 2 and On or after Day 8.

Self isolation for 10 days except Test to release PCR on or after day 5 got my result 24 hours later.

Flying out similar requirement for PCR.
I take it this was not travel from a 'green' country?

jshell

11,075 posts

206 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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gizlaroc said:
I can understand why many consider Covid a hoax.

some of the things that may make people think Covid is a hoax. said:
CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B – EU statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.

A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.

Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’

At 7 universities not once COVID detected

‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’

‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’

‘This virus is fictitious’

‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’

‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’

‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’

‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’

CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus

Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.

About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’

In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.

Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus

Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.

Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.

Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests

In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.

‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’

Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’

‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’

Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’

Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
We need a source for this as no-one I know can find it!

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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anonymous said:
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I actually responded to one of your ilk who raised the Demonstration so you should address him not me.

I'll never reach your 60,800 posts and i am semi retired.

Why can you not accept that the Government assumed that the measures they put in place would have the impact it currently having and therefore their path is the correct one and the gradual release will continue as planned?

dangerousB

1,697 posts

191 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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981C said:
I take it this was not travel from a 'green' country?
Estonia

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Wolfmanjack said:
I see this has been roundly ignored by our septuagenarian, millionaire, teenage model dating garden ornament.. instead using his and his colleagues time to go round in circles on topics of no consequence
So much inaccuracy in one sentence. That takes some doing.

Tankrizzo

7,307 posts

194 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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There doesn't appear to be a Dr Derek Knauss anywhere on the internet apart from this article.

However, there is a Derek Knauss who writes some properly loony articles for a conspiracy website:

https://prepareforchange.net/author/knaussdr/

jshell

11,075 posts

206 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Tankrizzo said:
There doesn't appear to be a Dr Derek Knauss anywhere on the internet apart from this article.

However, there is a Derek Knauss who writes some properly loony articles for a conspiracy website:

https://prepareforchange.net/author/knaussdr/
Yeah, all I could find was this:
https://peopleforjusticecanada.com/2021/01/05/cana...

It talks about isolation of the virus but I'd love an expert/virologist/biologist or anyone who really knows this stuff to comment.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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jshell said:
We need a source for this as no-one I know can find it!
Try googling Dr Andrew Kaufman, he seems like a completely rational person

https://youtu.be/x526Y0_NV6I?t=2607

jshell

11,075 posts

206 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Oakey said:
jshell said:
We need a source for this as no-one I know can find it!
Try googling Dr Andrew Kaufman, he seems like a completely rational person

https://youtu.be/x526Y0_NV6I?t=2607
I did and he's talking alien false-flag attacks... wobble

tangerine_sedge

4,843 posts

219 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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jshell said:
gizlaroc said:
I can understand why many consider Covid a hoax.

some of the things that may make people think Covid is a hoax. said:
CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B – EU statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.

A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.

Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’

At 7 universities not once COVID detected

‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’

‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’

‘This virus is fictitious’

‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’

‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’

‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’

‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’

CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus

Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.

About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’

In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.

Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus

Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.

Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.

Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests

In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.

‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’

Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’

‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’

Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’

Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
We need a source for this as no-one I know can find it!
It seems to be fake news bks : linky

It seems to be going around and around on the usual conspiracy/ufo sites...

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