CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 11)
Discussion
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Well, here's my crackpot conspiracy theory.
The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
Well you certainly are right about the crackpot bit.The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
We had more people in ICU for covid over the second wave and nearly 2x the number due to any flu season in living memory. But it definitely was flu.....ah well.
jshell said:
I did and he's talking alien false-flag attacks... 
Here he is suggesting Demon possession may be a factor in mental illnesshttps://youtu.be/IM-PPfHDRYU?t=3257
Nickgnome said:
Sanders123 said:
Ntv said:
Great to see the demos in London yesterday.
Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.
I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!
I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.
Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
The police have been just as bad as the government and the MSM throughout. They deserve everything they get.Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.
I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!
I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.
Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
t. They've lost any respect from me with their behave this year. Oakey said:
jshell said:
I did and he's talking alien false-flag attacks...
Here he is suggesting Demon possession may be a factor in mental illnesshttps://youtu.be/IM-PPfHDRYU?t=3257
danllama said:
Nickgnome said:
Sanders123 said:
Ntv said:
Great to see the demos in London yesterday.
Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.
I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!
I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.
Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
The police have been just as bad as the government and the MSM throughout. They deserve everything they get.Saw the police being chased out of Hyde Park and getting a bit of a doing without all their protective gear on.
I sense a mere warm up for the summer, when the boys and girls in blue are going to have a fun time!
I also think the BBC's diligent efforts to not cover / cover as little as credibly possible such opposition is counter-productive.
Being labelled a "conspiracist" / "covid-denier" / "covidiot" because you want to see friends and family, enjoy the same quality of life as 2019, and care about mass unemployment says everything about the name-callers.
They deserve our support and respect. Nothing more nothing less.
t. They've lost any respect from me with their behave this year. Respect is earned not enforced with batons
Weak and unintelligent policing of chosen protests.
Looks very poor going mob handed to arrest some old dear.
jshell said:
Oakey said:
jshell said:
I did and he's talking alien false-flag attacks...
Here he is suggesting Demon possession may be a factor in mental illnesshttps://youtu.be/IM-PPfHDRYU?t=3257
"There is a video going viral on social media, where Dr. Thomas Cowen, an M. D. from the United States, theorises that the novel coronavirus originated from the toxic excretions of the human body due the 5G network expansion."
Uh huh...
Good news
The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
Nickgnome said:
Good news
The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
i suppose its like having a knee on your neck restricting your breathing then after 7 mins the knee gets taken off - your next full breath is likely to be a feking big gasp isnt it! The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
Thats what will be the same with our economy.
Oakey said:
jshell said:
I did and he's talking alien false-flag attacks...
Gizlaroc keeps trying to convince everyone he's not a conspiracy loon, then posts up links by conspiracy loons...I posted the things that are going round to cast doubt.
The issue is, so many things from those in charge are so obviously lies, when that happens then of course people start to question what is actually real.
If they just told the truth in the first place there would be less reason to distrust them.
Nickgnome said:
Good news
The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
It is clear you understand what you have just posted and what this means in the long term.The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
Simply put, it would be almost impossible for the economy not grow this year compared to the way the government intentionally cratered it in 2020...
The £400bn spent in the last 12 months is 14% of yearly GDP. That is £400bn of future spending removed and this number is only going to rise with the huge hole in future tax receipts
isaldiri said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Well, here's my crackpot conspiracy theory.
The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
Well you certainly are right about the crackpot bit.The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
We had more people in ICU for covid over the second wave and nearly 2x the number due to any flu season in living memory. But it definitely was flu.....ah well.
How many people who were in hospital who had Covid were being treated primarily for Covid?
Or was Darren who had a positive Covid test but was admitted for gall stones just another statistic?
Nickgnome said:
Good news
The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
Jeez where do you start with that.......in fact lets not bother.......good trolling though.The UK economy is set to grow at its fastest rate on record this year, experts have predicted.
The EY Item Club has upgraded its 2021 growth forecast from 5% to 6.8%, which would mark the fastest rate since official records began.
Chief economic advisor Howard Archer said the economy had "proven to be more resilient than seemed possible".
The vaccine rollout and relaxed restrictions had helped the recovery, it said.
The UK's GDP, which measures all the activity of companies, governments and individuals in the economy, shrank by a record 9.9% last year as coronavirus restrictions hit output, according to the Office for National Statistics.
But EY expects that the UK economy will return to its pre-pandemic size in the second quarter of 2022 - three months earlier than previously forecast.
Item Club economists also revised down their unemployment forecasts. The rate is now expected to reach 5.8% towards the end of this year, down from the 7% predicted in January.
Mr Archer said that the latest forecast suggested the economy would "emerge from the pandemic with much less long-term 'scarring' than was originally envisaged and looks set for a strong recovery over the rest of the year and beyond".
He added : "While restrictions have caused disruption, lessons learned over the last 12 months have helped minimise the economic impact."
gizlaroc said:
Someone was asking why people don't think what is going on is real.
I posted the things that are going round to cast doubt.
The issue is, so many things from those in charge are so obviously lies, when that happens then of course people start to question what is actually real.
If they just told the truth in the first place there would be less reason to distrust them.
Right, and you just happened to have that copypasta as an example because you sought it out to make a point, not because you're frequenting the type of sites or groups posting this nonsense? I posted the things that are going round to cast doubt.
The issue is, so many things from those in charge are so obviously lies, when that happens then of course people start to question what is actually real.
If they just told the truth in the first place there would be less reason to distrust them.
Ashfordian said:
It is clear you understand what you have just posted and what this means in the long term.
Simply put, it would be almost impossible for the economy not grow this year compared to the way the government intentionally cratered it in 2020...
The £400bn spent in the last 12 months is 14% of yearly GDP. That is £400bn of future spending removed and this number is only going to rise with the huge hole in future tax receipts
Is it £400bn? I thought it was less than £300bn but I stand corrected if your number is correct. Simply put, it would be almost impossible for the economy not grow this year compared to the way the government intentionally cratered it in 2020...
The £400bn spent in the last 12 months is 14% of yearly GDP. That is £400bn of future spending removed and this number is only going to rise with the huge hole in future tax receipts
Why will there will be a huge hole in tax receipts if the economy bounces back in the way described. Brexit has caused some short term challenges but we have to hope those problems will be overcome.
tangerine_sedge said:
jshell said:
gizlaroc said:
I can understand why many consider Covid a hoax.
We need a source for this as no-one I know can find it!some of the things that may make people think Covid is a hoax. said:
CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B – EU statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.
A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.
Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’
At 7 universities not once COVID detected
‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’
‘This virus is fictitious’
‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’
‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’
‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’
‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’
CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus
Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.
About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’
In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.
Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus
Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.
Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.
Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests
In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.
‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’
Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’
‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’
Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’
Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.
Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’
At 7 universities not once COVID detected
‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’
‘This virus is fictitious’
‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’
‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’
‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’
‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’
CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus
Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.
About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’
In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.
Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus
Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.
Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.
Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests
In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.
‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’
Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’
‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’
Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’
Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
ks : linkyIt seems to be going around and around on the usual conspiracy/ufo sites...
Choose victimhood and invent your own facts (Delhi only has 109 ICU beds!) if you like. Just don't object when other people get on with their lives and point out that being a drama queen is an odd way to carry on.
Roman Rhodes said:
It does seem extraordinary that people get so immersed in their own conviction of being right (and the majority of people being wrong) that they clutch at any old (already debunked) nonsense to support their point of view. This thread is a great example, anyone not convinced that society and the economy have been DESTROYED, all rights and civil liberties have been REMOVED is a troll. If these things haven't happened quite yet just you watch, they will soon - its a slippery slope and Nazi Germany wasn't built in a day!
Choose victimhood and invent your own facts (Delhi only has 109 ICU beds!) if you like. Just don't object when other people get on with their lives and point out that being a drama queen is an odd way to carry on.
. Have those things not happened? Choose victimhood and invent your own facts (Delhi only has 109 ICU beds!) if you like. Just don't object when other people get on with their lives and point out that being a drama queen is an odd way to carry on.
isaldiri said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Well, here's my crackpot conspiracy theory.
The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
Well you certainly are right about the crackpot bit.The first wave in the UK really was Covid 19. It filled the hospitals and took a lot of the vulnerable. Then it disappeared, much like SARS did and much like Swine Flu.
The powers that be across the world saw an opportunity to move other agendas on.
As we move into the northern hemisphere winter, the ordinary process of flu kicked in and by January the hospitals were getting pressured, as they do every year during a heavy flu season. Except, we didn't call it flu this time, we rebranded it 'Covid'.
By morphing Flu into Covid, you have a predictable annual flow of potential disaster allowing you to justify ever more ongoing draconian measures, ostensibly to protect us from this vicious mutating disease, but ultimately a vehicle to justify climate measures that would otherwise see governments voted out.
We had more people in ICU for covid over the second wave and nearly 2x the number due to any flu season in living memory. But it definitely was flu.....ah well.
Value lives equally?
Ethical foundation?
Nickgnome said:
Ashfordian said:
It is clear you understand what you have just posted and what this means in the long term.
Simply put, it would be almost impossible for the economy not grow this year compared to the way the government intentionally cratered it in 2020...
The £400bn spent in the last 12 months is 14% of yearly GDP. That is £400bn of future spending removed and this number is only going to rise with the huge hole in future tax receipts
Is it £400bn? I thought it was less than £300bn but I stand corrected if your number is correct. Simply put, it would be almost impossible for the economy not grow this year compared to the way the government intentionally cratered it in 2020...
The £400bn spent in the last 12 months is 14% of yearly GDP. That is £400bn of future spending removed and this number is only going to rise with the huge hole in future tax receipts
Why will there will be a huge hole in tax receipts if the economy bounces back in the way described. Brexit has caused some short term challenges but we have to hope those problems will be overcome.
Think cumulative.
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