45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

[andy_s]

Europa1 said:

andy_s said:

Europa1 said:

I'm still surprised more wasn't made of the credit card debts. If the hearing is, as a previous poster put it, a job interview, I'd seriously question the candidate's judgement for this particular role.

Then following his performance regarding the assault allegations, I'd question the candidate's temperament for this particular role.

I think he amped up his performance [the operative word] after Trump criticized his TV performance a few days prior to the hearing, calling it 'weak' or some such. But then everyone is 'weak' compared to him I guess.

Will he amp up his judgments if they are criticised?

I think he'll end up doing the bidding of his lordship who got him the job - he's a completely unsuitable candidate of course, and I'd wager there's many a skeleton lurking under the wigs and gowns on both sides of the house - the mere fact that the judiciary and the political are so entwined is already anathema in my view. It's massively corrupt but in a very subtle way, or it was until the Donald put his size 12's into the WH and pulled back the curtain to the casual observer.

[Byker28i]

andy_s said:

Escapegoat said:

sugerbear said:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09....

Just wow... page 12 onwards. Six allegations in total.

I really hopes she comes forward.

I hate Kavanaugh and Trump as much as anyone on this thread, but to consider that letter as evidence that Kavanaugh can somehow defend himself against is Kafka-esque.

(What's certainly true is that we don't have a way of evaluating #metoo claims from history. Understanding and sympathy for Ford and others who come forward is one thing, and a court of law is the best place to consider those, but anonymous claims like this are worth nothing.)

You're right to be cautious; in Kavanaugh's place I would have enlisted the help of my Presidentially inclined pal's Russian acquaintances to litter the internet with easily disproved claims to obfuscate the whole affair and slough away the inconvenient Ford in a deluge of cleansing GOP common-sense...

In the lines of what he wanted to ask Clinton, what goes around comes around...

[Byker28i]

andy_s said:

Europa1 said:

andy_s said:

Europa1 said:

I'm still surprised more wasn't made of the credit card debts. If the hearing is, as a previous poster put it, a job interview, I'd seriously question the candidate's judgement for this particular role.

Then following his performance regarding the assault allegations, I'd question the candidate's temperament for this particular role.

I think he amped up his performance [the operative word] after Trump criticized his TV performance a few days prior to the hearing, calling it 'weak' or some such. But then everyone is 'weak' compared to him I guess.

Will he amp up his judgments if they are criticised?

I think he'll end up doing the bidding of his lordship who got him the job - he's a completely unsuitable candidate of course, and I'd wager there's many a skeleton lurking under the wigs and gowns on both sides of the house - the mere fact that the judiciary and the political are so entwined is already anathema in my view. It's massively corrupt but in a very subtle way, or it was until the Donald put his size 12's into the WH and pulled back the curtain to the casual observer.

He's already revealed he is not able to be a non partisan judge with his bizarre claim in testimony last week that he is the victim of a Democratic conspiracy to do him in.

[Byker28i]

Lyndsey Graham - Clinton trial about 3 min 20 secs in
On January 23, 1999, Lindsey Graham told the United States Senate that if a judge commits perjury *even once* he must be immediately impeached.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4594517/clinton-imp...

[Lazermilk]

John Oliver’s latest episode is dedicated to Kavanaugh:

https://youtu.be/opi8X9hQ7q8

[Byker28i]

Byker28i said:

Lyndsey Graham - Clinton trial about 3 min 20 secs in
On January 23, 1999, Lindsey Graham told the United States Senate that if a judge commits perjury *even once* he must be immediately impeached.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4594517/clinton-imp...

But then Kavanaugh said in a 2015 speech,

To be a good judge and a good umpire, it’s important to have the proper demeanor. Really important, I think. To walk in the others’ shoes, whether it be the other litigants, the litigants in the case, the other judges. To understand them. To keep our emotions in check. To be calm amidst the storm. On the bench, to put it in the vernacular, don’t be a jerk. I think that’s important. To be a good umpire and a good judge, don’t be a jerk. In your opinions, to demonstrate civility. I think that’s important as well. To show, to help display, that you are trying to make the decision impartially and dispassionately based on the law and not based on your emotions. That we’re not the bigger than the game….There’s a danger of arrogance, as for umpires and referees, but also for judges. And I would say that danger grows the more time you’re on the bench. As one of my colleagues puts it, you become more like yourself—and that can be a problem

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/kavan...

[Vaud]

"To keep our emotions in check. To be calm amidst the storm."

ha ha.

[Byker28i]

So after trying to stall the F I and limit them for the last 2.5 days..... "White House has authorized the F.B.I. to expand its abbreviated investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh by interviewing anyone it deems necessary as long the review is finished by the end of the week”

Remembering Kavanaugh has to be there for scotus v gamble

[Byker28i]

The new Canadian agreement is just the same Nafta?

TRUMP: "NAFTA is the worst agreement in the history of our country."

• renames NAFTA**

TRUMP: "USMCA is the most important agreement in the history of our country

[Gameface]

Byker28i said:

So after trying to stall the F I and limit them for the last 2.5 days..... "White House has authorized the F.B.I. to expand its abbreviated investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh by interviewing anyone it deems necessary as long the review is finished by the end of the week”

Remembering Kavanaugh has to be there for scotus v gamble

Is that an official White House statement?

[Byker28i]

Gameface said:

Byker28i said:

So after trying to stall the F I and limit them for the last 2.5 days..... "White House has authorized the F.B.I. to expand its abbreviated investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh by interviewing anyone it deems necessary as long the review is finished by the end of the week”

Remembering Kavanaugh has to be there for scotus v gamble

Is that an official White House statement?

It came from the whitehouse. Kelly Anne Conway, sanders and trump have all said similar. I think after the fallout they are hoping the FBI don't have time to find anything else, or have time to fully investigate
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/tru...

[Byker28i]

Nine Senate Judiciary Democrats have sent a letter to Don McGahn and Chris Wray with a list of 24 people and entities that they believe the FBI should speak with as part of the Kavanaugh investigation. The list includes the Potomac Village Safeway

https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/10...

[Lazermilk]

Let’s hope the fbi throw everything they have at it to find as much as they can in the short time they have then, not that it will probably make much difference mind you...

[ScudNorth]

Bombshell:

Text messages show Brett Kavanaugh contacted former classmates about Ramirez's allegations BEFORE the New Yorker published its story. Kavanaugh stated, under oath, that the first time he heard about the allegations was in the New Yorker. Perjury. Also, a tickle of witness tampering, perhaps?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mut...

[Tryke3]

ScudNorth said:

Bombshell:

Text messages show Brett Kavanaugh contacted former classmates about Ramirez's allegations BEFORE the New Yorker published its story. Kavanaugh stated, under oath, that the first time he heard about the allegations was in the New Yorker. Perjury. Also, a tickle of witness tampering, perhaps?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mut...

Who is the swamp ?

[RobDickinson]

It's only a bombshell if you didn't know he was a lying dirty bd already.

[Tryke3]

In a copy of his statement given to The Post, Ludington, a professor at North Carolina State University, described Kavanaugh as a "belligerent and aggressive" drunk.

"On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man's face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail," the statement said.

[ScudNorth]

RobDickinson said:

It's only a bombshell if you didn't know he was a lying dirty bd already.

Bombshell in the sense that Republicans will have much more difficulty ignoring this example of perjury, as opposed to his lies concerning the definition of the word "boofed".

[RobDickinson]

ScudNorth said:

Bombshell in the sense that Republicans will have much more difficulty ignoring this example of perjury, as opposed to his lies concerning the definition of the word "boofed".

I think you seriously mis underestimate their ability to ignore this stuff.

I also think they don't care about the voters, the gop right just exercise whatever power they can now because they won't be able to later

[ScudNorth]

NYT has the details of Chad Ludington's story.

In 1985, Kavanaugh was questioned (but not arrested) by police. Kavanaugh threw ice in a man's face, starting a fight which resulted in Kavanaugh's friend (who went on to become Republican nominee for Governor of Oregon) to smash a beer bottle on the man's head.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kav...