Welsh lockdown

[Evanivitch]

Jinx said:

They are doing it without all the restrictions though so even if they end up as bad as the UK case/death wise - they did it without the extra health issues we are just kicking down the road.

There's loads of restrictions in Sweden! Why do people can't pretending they're just going about their normal business!?

[Rh14n]

Lord.Vader said:

Don’t talk nonsense, everyone knows the virus doesn’t spread between 09:00 - 17:30.

Just like the lads on the shop floor in work, around 5000 of them working together every day safely with no COVID cases.

But no no, a house party with 20 people ... or the pub packed full of strangers, that’s all fine.

Sorry Rh14n, did I say I’d seen my mum or been anywhere near her? You know what they say about assuming ... you can apologies when you are ready.

Ah Vader, you're quite right. I do apologise for making the assumption that someone who has just carried on as normal, attending house parties, ignoring all and any rules for the past six months would be visiting his mother. Clearly, you are right and I am wrong. You're a great guy.

[Daveb257]

I’m interested to see where there’s a factory with 5000 employees and no cases?
Wales/Narnia/Atlantis/Naboo ?

[Noodle1982]

Reading between the lines I bet we end up coming out of our lockdown and straight into Boris's latest one

Kim Jong Drakeford a few days ago...

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13225265...

..and today....

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13229582...

[wobert]

Daveb257 said:

I’m interested to see where there’s a factory with 5000 employees and no cases?
Wales/Narnia/Atlantis/Naboo ?

Airbus @ Broughton was employing c6k pre-Covid.

[Daveb257]

wobert said:

Daveb257 said:

I’m interested to see where there’s a factory with 5000 employees and no cases?
Wales/Narnia/Atlantis/Naboo ?

Airbus @ Broughton was employing c6k pre-Covid.

Yeah that was my first thought, can’t be there though as to quote earlier “ there are no cases” and I personally know people there who’ve tested positive, it’s not any of the food processing places they are regularly in the local press with outbreaks so I’m at a loss

[phil_cardiff]

Noodle1982 said:

Reading between the lines I bet we end up coming out of our lockdown and straight into Boris's latest one

Kim Jong Drakeford a few days ago...

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13225265...

..and today....

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13229582...

I'll take that bet.

[kiethton]

phil_cardiff said:

Noodle1982 said:

Reading between the lines I bet we end up coming out of our lockdown and straight into Boris's latest one

Kim Jong Drakeford a few days ago...

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13225265...

..and today....

https://mobile.twitter.com/fmwales/status/13229582...

I'll take that bet.

Hopefully they don't, with no laws against driving for fun I was fancying a welsh hoon trip with some mates in a few weeks time - a non-lockdown wales would be great, even better if we could have a nice pub lunch and swerve the tesco sandwiches too!

[Byker28i]

Drakefords going to announce new rules for when lockdown finishes

Mr Drakeford said there will be a basic set of national rules in Wales.

He added: “They (the rules) will be simpler and clearer, and it will allow for something beyond what we have had during the firebreak period.”

The First Minister said there would be a different set of rules for people meeting up, but that he would set those changes out later today.

He did say: “They will go beyond what people are able to do now. We will preserve a distinction between what people can do indoors and what they can do outdoors.”

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/lock...

New measures to stop the english coming over the border?

I can't see why England didn't lock down for half term, we basically let people grab holidays, spread stuff around. Apparently Devon and Cornwall were rammed with holiday makers

[Byker28i]

MORE than 200 vehicles were stopped on one of the main roads into the county as part of police and council stop-checks to ensure drivers are following Wales lockdown regulations.

Today, October 31, police have said more than 220 vehicles were stopped on the main A477 road, with many turned back for non-essential travel.

Within hours of Pembrokeshire entering week one of the 17-day Wales-wide ‘fire-break’ lockdown last Friday, October 23, a family drove all the way from Sussex to west Wales.

Last Friday, October 23, Pembrokeshire Council Leader Cllr David Simpson, called on everyone to work together to ensure people will observed the lockdown.
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/18837288.l...

David Simpson is an idiot, ramping up rhetoric again against 'outsiders' like he did last lockdown.

[Byker28i]

There's some expensive fines

A TRIP to Johnston to buy cigarettes and orange juice during the first coronavirus lockdown period earlier this year has proved costly for a Pembroke man.

Christopher Jenkins, of Valence Walk, found the case against him proved in his absence under the single justice procedure at Llanelli Magistrates’ Court, on October 20.

The court heard that Jenkins, aged 26, was caught on April 16 at Ferry Lane, Pembroke Dock, away from the place he was living during the emergency period without reasonable excuse, having travelled to a petrol station at Johnston to buy cigarettes and orange juice, leaving Pembroke at approximately 8pm and returning via Milford Haven.

He was fined £660, with prosecution costs of £85 costs and a £66 victim surcharge.
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/18836774.p...


Carmarthenshire is now ramping up...
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/18838383.c...

[Sargeant Orange]

Sounds like Dripford is stting the bed about pubs re-opening after the Firebreak

[Byker28i]

These are the new rules he announced that will come into force on Monday, November 9:

There will be no travel restrictions within Wales for residents
Two households will be able to join together to form a bubble
Only people in these extended households can meet inside their homes
There will be new arrangements to meet indoors in other settings, such as pubs, bars, cafes and restaurants

How this will work has not yet been agreed - further discussions take place on Monday afternoon

In relation to organised activity, up to 15 people can take part in an indoors activity and up to 30 in outdoors activity, providing all social distancing, hand hygiene and other Covid safety measures are followed.

All schools reopen from Monday, November 9
Business premises reopen from Monday, November 9
Places of workship can resume services and council services will resume
People should avoid non-essential travel and work from home where possible
Two metre social distancing and the need to wear masks in enclose public distancing remains in place/

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/drak...

[Escy]

He's sticking to his word then, lifting the lockdown.

For all those people ranting earlier on about our firebreak, would you have preferred the England 4 week lock down that's coming in?

[Byker28i]

This table shows the growth rates in every local authority:

Area Current rate Average a week ago Percentage change
Torfaen 365.4 12.8 224%
Newport 171.3 84.6 102%
Blaenau Gwent 438.4 223.3 96%
Merthyr Tydfil 608.4 333.2 83%
Powys 101.2 56.6 79%
Swansea 360.7 204 77%
Rhondda Cynon Taf 496.1 295.1 68%
Vale of Glamorgan 101.1 60.6 67%
Caerphilly 297.1 180.6 65%
Monmouthshire 171.3 104.6 64%
Ceredigion 49.5 30.3 63%
Carmarthenshire 136.7 83.7 63%
Neath Port Talbot 342.6 230.9 48%
Bridgend 267.9 205.4 30%
Wrexham 264.8 218.4 21%
Flintshire 169.1 150.5 12%
Conwy 109.2 109.2 0%
Cardiff 331.7 336.1 -1%
Anglesey 114.2 19.9 -5%
Gwynedd 69 88.3 -22%
Pembrokeshire 5.8 57.2 -37%
Denbighshire 80.5 38.9 -42%


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/covi...

Not many places falling...

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 2nd November 12:48

[Escy]

Byker28i said:

Not many places falling...

With a 2 week lag I wouldn't expect to see them falling yet.

[phil_cardiff]

Byker28i said:

This table shows the growth rates in every local authority:

Area Current rate Average a week ago Percentage change
Torfaen 365.4 12.8 224%
Newport 171.3 84.6 102%
Blaenau Gwent 438.4 223.3 96%
Merthyr Tydfil 608.4 333.2 83%
Powys 101.2 56.6 79%
Swansea 360.7 204 77%
Rhondda Cynon Taf 496.1 295.1 68%
Vale of Glamorgan 101.1 60.6 67%
Caerphilly 297.1 180.6 65%
Monmouthshire 171.3 104.6 64%
Ceredigion 49.5 30.3 63%
Carmarthenshire 136.7 83.7 63%
Neath Port Talbot 342.6 230.9 48%
Bridgend 267.9 205.4 30%
Wrexham 264.8 218.4 21%
Flintshire 169.1 150.5 12%
Conwy 109.2 109.2 0%
Cardiff 331.7 336.1 -1%
Anglesey 114.2 19.9 -5%
Gwynedd 69 88.3 -22%
Pembrokeshire 35.8 57.2 -37%
Denbighshire 80.5 38.9 -42%


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/covi...

Not many places falling...

Are you saying that fire breaks or whatever aren't working? If so I'd say that it's too soon to tell, there's a lag between cause and effect.

Also it may just slow the increase in cases which is impossible to measure I'd have thought.

[phil_cardiff]

Escy said:

He's sticking to his word then, lifting the lockdown.

For all those people ranting earlier on about our firebreak, would you have preferred the England 4 week lock down that's coming in?

You can debate the merits or otherwise of a lockdown and that's fine.

But if you are going to have one then why on earth would you not use the half term break as an opportunity? Johnson's decision making is very strange.

[Byker28i]

phil_cardiff said:

Are you saying that fire breaks or whatever aren't working? If so I'd say that it's too soon to tell, there's a lag between cause and effect.

Also it may just slow the increase in cases which is impossible to measure I'd have thought.

Nope - I'm saying you can see why it was put in place, with everywhere bar a couple of places showing rises.
I just wish England had done the same lockdown for half term - no idea why people were allowed to travel for holidays

Even Drakeford said it would be too soon to see the results straight away.

[phil_cardiff]

Byker28i said:

phil_cardiff said:

Are you saying that fire breaks or whatever aren't working? If so I'd say that it's too soon to tell, there's a lag between cause and effect.

Also it may just slow the increase in cases which is impossible to measure I'd have thought.

Nope - I'm saying you can see why it was put in place, with everywhere bar a couple of places showing rises.
I just wish England had done the same lockdown for half term - no idea why people were allowed to travel for holidays

Even Drakeford said it would be too soon to see the results straight away.

Got it, cheers.