45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[Funkycoldribena]

jmorgan said:

His ego will not let him think of one, he must out do Obama, or equal.

You're probably correct,however age is against him and I think its already taking its toll,so Im going for 4 years only.

[jmorgan]

Funkycoldribena said:

jmorgan said:

His ego will not let him think of one, he must out do Obama, or equal.

You're probably correct,however age is against him and I think its already taking its toll,so Im going for 4 years only.

He made a big play of weak woman with Mrs C, I expect hubris in bucket loads but maybe body will say no first? I expect him to have a shot at the title all the way if the body holds out.

[Blackpuddin]

jmorgan said:

Funkycoldribena said:

Do you think they care?
I really don't thing Trump will want a second shot and I wasnt sure about him making the full term but if this thread is a mirror image across America he wll make it easily.

His ego will not let him think of one, he must out do Obama, or equal.

Trump put his name up for a second term as soon as he was inaugurated for the first one.

[djc206]

Funkycoldribena said:

Do you think they care?
I really dont thing Trump will want a second shot and I wasnt sure about him making the full term but if this thread is a mirror image across America he wll make it easily.

Some definitely do care. I was in Louisiana, Tennessee and Texas in September, all red states and a large number of people struck up conversations about Trump and how they find him to be an embarrassment, even people who voted for him. They know that the US has a bad rep abroad and Trump is not helping. It makes travelling abroad very awkward for them as they are automatically associated with their politics which have always been cringeworthy due to their bipartisan nature but Trump has elevated that to a level previously unimaginable.

[paulguitar]

Funkycoldribena said:

paulguitar said:

I think the whole USA is being humiliated day in day out by having him as president. But if they re-elect him in 2020, frankly they deserve to be ridiculed and laughed at by the rest of the world.

Do you think they care?

I spend most of my time stateside and yes, many of them care, very much. They are ashamed and embarrassed by the Trump debacle.

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

[AreOut]

paulguitar said:

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

they all played by the same rules

[Funkycoldribena]

paulguitar said:

I spend most of my time stateside and yes, many of them care, very much. They are ashamed and embarrassed by the Trump debacle.

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

So you didnt bump into one of the 63 million then?
Still leaves a lot of people who didnt care enough to vote as well.
Is this a bit like brexit where remainers never met/meet anyone who voted leave?

[paulguitar]

AreOut said:

paulguitar said:

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

they all played by the same rules

The point I am making is far more people did not vote for him than voted for him. No comment on rules. He won the election. No dispute there.

[Funkycoldribena]

Blackpuddin said:

Trump put his name up for a second term as soon as he was inaugurated for the first one.

I can put myself forward for Olympic Javelin in 2050 but it doesnt mean my body will manage it.

[paulguitar]

Funkycoldribena said:

paulguitar said:

I spend most of my time stateside and yes, many of them care, very much. They are ashamed and embarrassed by the Trump debacle.

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

So you didnt bump into one of the 63 million then?
Still leaves a lot of people who didnt care enough to vote as well.
Is this a bit like brexit where remainers never met/meet anyone who voted leave?

On the whole I have sort of tried to avoid the subject to be honest. I have had a small number of discussions with Trump voters though. I am careful to be very respectful and listen to what they have to say. One guy who voted for him said he did so even though he 'knows he's an asshole'. Frequently the reason for voting for him given to me was 'the Democrats want to take away our guns'.

[djc206]

Funkycoldribena said:

paulguitar said:

I spend most of my time stateside and yes, many of them care, very much. They are ashamed and embarrassed by the Trump debacle.

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

So you didnt bump into one of the 63 million then?
Still leaves a lot of people who didnt care enough to vote as well.
Is this a bit like brexit where remainers never met/meet anyone who voted leave?

It always amazes me how poor turnout is for US presidential elections.

There is always buyers remorse.

[andy_s]

Tax was the reason a few I know voted for him. Had to take a shower afterwards though.

[Funkycoldribena]

djc206 said:

It always amazes me how poor turnout is for US presidential elections.

There is always buyers remorse.

Its the whole population of the UK!
Not that that means much.

[Funkycoldribena]

paulguitar said:

On the whole I have sort of tried to avoid the subject to be honest. I have had a small number of discussions with Trump voters though. I am careful to be very respectful and listen to what they have to say. One guy who voted for him said he did so even though he 'knows he's an asshole'. Frequently the reason for voting for him given to me was 'the Democrats want to take away our guns'.

Fair enough.
Don't see anything wrong with the gun thing either, their country,their rules,their wishes.

[Eric Mc]

AreOut said:

paulguitar said:

Don't forget only 63 million people voted for Trump, in a country with a population of over 320 million.

they all played by the same rules

That is not the point of this statistic. This statistic just shows how many did not vote for him and it indicates how much his views and policies (if you can call them that) really represent what Americans actually want and how they really feel.

Of course, some of that 320 million would be ineligible to vote. A quick check reveals that the population of voting age in the US is actually around 230 million. So that shows that 167 million did not vote for Trump. Now, obviously, quite a few of those didn't vote for anybody and who know how their votes would have gone if they had voted.

My hunch is that a large group of those non voters would NOT be inclined to vote for Trump. If the Democrats can motivate that group - as they did very recently in Alabama - who knows what's going to happen when the next round of voting comes along.

[Robertj21a]

Funkycoldribena said:

So you didnt bump into one of the 63 million then?
Still leaves a lot of people who didnt care enough to vote as well.
Is this a bit like brexit where remainers never met/meet anyone who voted leave?

No, Remainers never met any Leavers because they never travel outside the metropolitan centres (or M25)

Sorry to go further off topic.......

[968]

The Dangerous Elk said:

FYI, I have run out of tinfoil.

Is it the cognitive dissonance hitting you again?

[AreOut]

paulguitar said:

The point I am making is far more people did not vote for him than voted for him. No comment on rules. He won the election. No dispute there.

62M voted for the winner in 2004 so how is that relevant again

[Eric Mc]

AreOut said:

paulguitar said:

The point I am making is far more people did not vote for him than voted for him. No comment on rules. He won the election. No dispute there.

62M voted for the winner in 2004 so how is that relevant again

Missing points seems to be the preserve of Trumpettes. Is it the blinkers that cause it, I wonder?

[rscott]

AreOut said:

paulguitar said:

The point I am making is far more people did not vote for him than voted for him. No comment on rules. He won the election. No dispute there.

62M voted for the winner in 2004 so how is that relevant again

In 2004, 62M voted for the winner, 59M for the loser. Somewhat different to 2016 where the winner had fewer votes than 2nd place...