45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

[Byker28i]

Countdown said:

I don't disagree with what you've said. However i think the real blame lies with his "enablers" - in particular those who hold senior positions within the GOP and also with those who saw Trump as the only one willing to implement their Evangelical agenda (the likes of the Mercers, Adelson, et al).

Trump is very much like a pig on a truffle hunt. He doesn't particularly care what he smashes, or covers in faeces as he hurtles around as long as he gets the adulation he craves. It's those that are guiding him from behind that are the real culprits.

Add into that Sarah Sanders who lied for him daily. Muellers report said that Sarah Huckabee Sanders told investigators that she misled the press about the reason Donald Trump fired former FBI director James Comey in 2017 when she told reporters “countless” FBI agents had lost confidence in the agency’s leader

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/18/mueller-...

[Byker28i]

p1stonhead said:

Nope. Because;

EDIT: 3 dems voted for Barr during his confirmation.
Democrats Joe Manchin, Doug Jones and Kyrsten Sinema voted to confirm Barr and one Republican, Rand Paul, voted against Barr.
Manchin also voted for Kavanaugh.


Pelosi and the leading Dems know they cannot start impeachment because it'll go nowhere in the senate. They need to keep that powder dry and build the public distrust against trump. With the 2020 election coming, trump needs to be atacked on all fronts over his criminality, using the 22 or so other investigations into him, Muellers full report and evidence, his tax cuts and attacks on health which worked well for the dems in the midterms etc

They need to make it so that the republicans fear they won't get reelected because of trump and trumps family actions, so that they drop support for him. Lets face it, trump will now spend the next 18 months achieving nothing as this dominates his life.

So I'd expect a slow drip, especially as trump loses it regularly, such as this yesterday, death by a thousand cuts

House Oversight and Reform Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) suggested Friday that impeachment proceedings against President Trump could be a possibility following the release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report.

Cummings stressed in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that Democrats will continue their investigations into Trump as they decide their next steps after the Justice Department released Mueller's report on his probe into Russia's election interference.

"A lot of people keep asking about the question of impeachment. We may very well come to that very soon," Cummings said.

"But right now, let's make sure we understand what Mueller was doing, understand what [Attorney General William] Barr was doing, and see the report in an unredacted form, and all of the underlying documents," Cummings added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/439750-cummings...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 20th April 07:16

[Byker28i]

trump is a one man crime wave says his challenger
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439789-gop-p...

“This man is a one-man crime wave,” Weld said in an interview with MSNBC that aired Friday. “He instructed senior legal officials, senior national security, senior intelligence officials to lie, he actively sought out and suborned perjury. That is obstruction of justice."

Weld described the president's behavior as "criminal conduct and impeachable conduct," but later clarified that he was not calling for the House to impeach Trump.

[Byker28i]

Elizabeth Warren starts the pressure?.

Elizabeth Warren
‏@ewarren

The Mueller report lays out facts showing that a hostile foreign government attacked our 2016 election to help Donald Trump and Donald Trump welcomed that help. Once elected, Donald Trump obstructed the investigation into that attack.

Mueller put the next step in the hands of Congress: “Congress has authority to prohibit a President’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice.” The correct process for exercising that authority is impeachment.

To ignore a President’s repeated efforts to obstruct an investigation into his own disloyal behavior would inflict great and lasting damage on this country, and it would suggest that both the current and future Presidents would be free to abuse their power in similar ways.
The severity of this misconduct demands that elected officials in both parties set aside political considerations and do their constitutional duty. That means the House should initiate impeachment proceedings against the President of the United States.

1:05 PM - 19 Apr 2019

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/111933129554759...

[Byker28i]

Prosecutors have requested an 18-month prison sentence for Russian gun rights activist Maria Butina for conspiring with a senior Russian official to infiltrate the NRA and conservative U.S. political circles for the Kremlin.

There's got to be more about the russian funding of the NRA to come out. How that money found it's way to trump and several of the GOP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/...


While Butina was not a traditional spy or trained intelligence officer, her actions bore “all the hallmarks” of an intelligence operation to target powerful individuals in a future presidential administration for recruitment later, prosecutors wrote.

“The value of this information to the Russian Federation is immense,” they wrote, adding, “Such operations can cause great damage to our national security by giving covert agents access to our country and powerful individuals who can influence its direction.”

[Byker28i]

The other thing from the Mueller report is that several people will now find themselves in trouble for lying to congress as they cross reference what people told Mueller in interviews conflicts with what they told congress. Erik Prince, donald jnr, Kushner, Sessions etc.

[Byker28i]

NBC are reporting that the trump investigation hasn't stopped - it's still continuing
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security...

So it looks like Barr only managed to stop Mueller, not realising there was a whole bigger investigation going on.
but trump only has the best people...

[Byker28i]

Byker28i said:

The other thing from the Mueller report is that several people will now find themselves in trouble for lying to congress as they cross reference what people told Mueller in interviews conflicts with what they told congress. Erik Prince, donald jnr, Kushner, Sessions etc.

Roger Stone is the only person Mueller indicted for lying to Congress. Now Stone is questioning that as well as a new court document shows.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5956128...

Stone is now formally seeking information on whether Robert Mueller investigated anyone else in Trump land for lying to Congress as he's trying to argue he was targeted for selective prosecution. We know there are numerous of team trump who lied to congress. We know that some in the DOJ, especially under Barrs direction, are very favourable to trump and are helping limit the impact.

Stone's lawyers also want to know who specifically Mueller's team believed lied in the course of the investigation, and why those people didn't face criminal charges

Could this force pressure onto further indictments for lying to congress?

[Byker28i]

Interesting from Natasha Bertrand from the Mueller report
The Trump campaign was well aware of Carter Page's Russia ties before he was hired, according to Mueller. Page even told them in January 2016 that he believed he could arrange "a direct meeting in Moscow" between Trump and Putin. He was hired less than 2 months later.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4hy8gGW0AAaRWP.jpg

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand

[Byker28i]

There's a color-coded chart of the possible obstruction offenses and Mueller's analysis of the three prongs of the statute

lets remember clinton was indicted for lying about a blowjob



yes/unclear/no markings are rough approximations of what's written in the report ("yes" = "substantial evidence" or similar; unclear is self-explanatory; "no" in this case indicates that Mueller assessed the incident to concern lying to the press rather than to investigators)

https://twitter.com/qjurecic/status/11194144814346...



Mueller had everything to charge trump with Obstruction
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/obstru...

[Gameface]

Byker28i said:

The other thing from the Mueller report is that several people will now find themselves in trouble for lying to congress as they cross reference what people told Mueller in interviews conflicts with what they told congress. Erik Prince, donald jnr, Kushner, Sessions etc.

Hope Sanders is too. Can't stand her.

[Halb]

I feel that this will be like everything else. It will mean very little.
Bill Maher had it right in his show last week. Trump was a horrible business man and a great politician when he won, he wins every discourse, because he tells the reality, it doesn't matter what the reality is, he defines it by what he says and people love it.

[paulguitar]

Halb said:

I feel that this will be like everything else. It will mean very little.
Bill Maher had it right in his show last week. Trump was a horrible business man and a great politician when he won, he wins every discourse, because he tells the reality, it doesn't matter what the reality is, he defines it by what he says and people love it.

He seems to have completely cast a spell over the weak-minded. He has a hold over them very much like a cult leader, and we have seen cases in the past where victims of cults have literally gone to their deaths for it. Human behaviour can be truly fascinating.

[Tryke3]

paulguitar said:

He seems to have completely cast a spell over the weak-minded. He has a hold over them very much like a cult leader, and we have seen cases in the past where victims of cults have literally gone to their deaths for it. Human behaviour can be truly fascinating.

Superior white race ready to be taken by any idiot, Brexit also falls into that category

[Eric Mc]

paulguitar said:

Halb said:

I feel that this will be like everything else. It will mean very little.
Bill Maher had it right in his show last week. Trump was a horrible business man and a great politician when he won, he wins every discourse, because he tells the reality, it doesn't matter what the reality is, he defines it by what he says and people love it.

He seems to have completely cast a spell over the weak-minded. He has a hold over them very much like a cult leader, and we have seen cases in the past where victims of cults have literally gone to their deaths for it. Human behaviour can be truly fascinating.

100% agree. Trump is a cult leader. If you listen to those who defend him, their responses are straight out of the "Cult Follower's Textbook".

[Halb]

paulguitar said:

He seems to have completely cast a spell over the weak-minded. He has a hold over them very much like a cult leader, and we have seen cases in the past where victims of cults have literally gone to their deaths for it. Human behaviour can be truly fascinating.

[Byker28i]

According to the NY Times, 69% of the redactions in the Mueller report were made because the material related to ongoing investigations,

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/19/us/...

[Byker28i]

trump and his attorneys had the full report early, but trump grew angry as he watched cable news coverage because a theme was emerging: a portrait of a dishonest president who is regularly managed, restrained or ignored by his staff.

This is an attack on trumps ego, no wonder he's not happy

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/20/politics/donald...

Instead of the "total exoneration" Trump had proclaimed earlier, the report portrayed the President as deceitful and paranoid, encouraging his aides to withhold the truth and cross ethical lines in an attempt to thwart a probe into Russia's interference in US elections -- his "Achilles heel," according to one forthcoming adviser.

Perhaps more angering to a leader who detests weakness -- but doesn't necessarily mind an amoral reputation -- were the number of underlings shown ignoring his commands, privately scoffing at the "crazy sh**" he was requesting and working around him to avoid self-implication.

[Byker28i]

Still, time for golf. trumps at trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, FL.

[Tartan Pixie]

North Korea: If US wants to talk, put someone 'more mature' than Pompeo in charge: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/north-...

Kim has apparently had enough of Pompeo and Bolton so is back to doing weapons tests, albeit non nuclear so as not to break any current agreements.

Wonder if Trump's still dreaming of a nobel prize?