45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 12)

[APontus]

Eric Mc said:

It's a post by APontus - did you expect anything different?

Cult followers behave in cultish ways.

The Times is that we'll known Qanon site and the various polls it quotes are no doubt GOP shills.

The danger of ignoring the message because you don't like the messenger is that you sleepwalk into idiots like Trump.

[CIELLA]

Byker28i said:

CIELLA said:

AZ full forensic audit results released to the public tomorrow:

Officially Biden won the state by 10457 votes. The results (coming 13:00hrs US Mountain time 24.09.2021) will show that there were 270,000 fraudulent votes found during the full audit. I wonder how the voting public in The US will respond to this news?

AZ produced the second closest result in the 2020 election. Georgia was the closest with something like only a 0.2% margin win for Biden. Judge Brian Amero has just given the state election commission and the GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) a 20 day limit to explain what was done to investigate the appearance of fake ballots in Fulton county.

Are the wheels about to come off the Biden cart or is this Trump just going full mental?

And yet Cyber Ninjas won't release any documents demanded by the court into their fraudit...
The fraudit was staffed by trumpettes and conspiracy believers, funded by trump supporters and initiated by the Arizona GOP only - who have now washed their hands of anything to do with the fraudit.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-fea...

There's been a number of other audits that found the result stood and there was no fraud.

Even Arizona GOP members say Biden won
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021...



Ten months on and trumpettes are still clutching at straws, willing to believe any little thing, yet not believe any of the proof that trump was put into power with the help of the russians, with russian money...

Good point you've just opened another can of worms there. First indictment has been issued to Hillary lawyer Sussmann for lying to the FBI about Trump and the Ruskies.


"Ultimately, the FBI found that there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations that there was a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and the Russian bank."

Crazy what some will believe.

[Voldemort]

Eric Mc said:

It's a post by APontus - did you expect anything different?

Cult followers behave in cultish ways.

I think you've got auto-correct on there, Eric.

[Byker28i]

CIELLA said:

Good point you've just opened another can of worms there. First indictment has been issued to Hillary lawyer Sussmann for lying to the FBI about Trump and the Ruskies.


"Ultimately, the FBI found that there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations that there was a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and the Russian bank."

Crazy what some will believe.

True about the server and Alpha bank, and yes crazy what some wil believe - especially about John Durhams partisan investigation instigated by Barr. Remeber it was the FBI itself had decided it important to investigate Trump's ties with Russia, which were numerous, even down to his lying about trump tower Moscow.
The only thing Durham has is that Michael Sussmann allegedly lied to the FBI about a matter pertaining to Kirkland & Ellis client Alfa Bank, yet noone apart from early on managed to prove anything or link that, so it was dismissed quite early in.

Lets not forget Mannafort was handing over poll data to the russians from May 2016, Stone was engaging with a GRU office to get Hillary's hacked emails, russians were pumping money into trumps campaign fund and the RNC, and the NRA (who then pumped it into RNC and trump)...
Then there's the recent revelations of RNC staff charged over taking $100K to provide russian intelligence office Roman Vasilenko access to trump - which of course he had a photo with the russian...

Lets not even get to Kislyak shall we how he followed trumps rally around, those private meetings..

Durhams 'investigation' is nothing but a smokescreen - throw enough stuff to see what sticks...

Yet as you say - crazy what trumpettes will believe and ignore when it comes to all trumps proven contacts and funding from Russia

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 23 September 13:12

[HM-2]

captain_cynic said:

APontus said:

We all know Trump was dishonest, crass and divisive.

Yet he's now more popular in the US than Biden.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7775a562-1bd4-1...

Given the source of the poll... I'm going to say it's bks.

It's also not quite what the actual poll said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573036-poll-...

Biden and Trump were tied for favourabilily (IE equally as popular). Biden polled as marginally more unpopular though.

At this point in his own presidency, Trump's favourability was circa 37% so Biden still has quite far to fall...

[Byker28i]

Ah that'll be why trump issued three statements last night though his 'spokesperson' or person who can post on social media.. , one of which was attacking Bush

George W. Bush is holding a fundraiser next month with Liz Cheney. trump of course hates Cheney because she's a woman and she voted for his impeachment...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/coun...

[CIELLA]

Byker28i said:

CIELLA said:

Good point you've just opened another can of worms there. First indictment has been issued to Hillary lawyer Sussmann for lying to the FBI about Trump and the Ruskies.


"Ultimately, the FBI found that there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations that there was a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and the Russian bank."

Crazy what some will believe.

True about the server and Alpha bank, and yes crazy what some wil believe - especially about John Durhams partisan investigation instigated by Barr. Remeber it was the FBI itself had decided it important to investigate Trump's ties with Russia, which were numerous, even down to his lying about trump tower Moscow.
The only thing Durham has is that Michael Sussmann allegedly lied to the FBI about a matter pertaining to Kirkland & Ellis client Alfa Bank, yet noone apart from early on managed to prove anything or link that, so it was dismissed quite early in.

Lets not forget Mannafort was handing over poll data to the russians from May 2016, Stone was engaging with a GRU office to get Hillary's hacked emails, russians were pumping money into trumps campaign fund and the RNC, and the NRA (who then pumped it into RNC and trump)...
Then there's the recent revelations of RNC staff charged over taking $100K to provide russian intelligence office Roman Vasilenko access to trump - which of course he had a photo with the russian...

Lets not even get to Kislyak shall we how he followed trumps rally around, those private meetings..

Durhams 'investigation' is nothing but a smokescreen - throw enough stuff to see what sticks...

Yet as you say - crazy what trumpettes will believe and ignore when it comes to all trumps proven contacts and funding from Russia

You've got it all wrong Byker, Mike Lindell claims Trump will be back as POTUS in months few, I 5h1t you not:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-linde...

[CIELLA]

CIELLA said:

Byker28i said:

CIELLA said:

AZ full forensic audit results released to the public tomorrow:

Officially Biden won the state by 10457 votes. The results (coming 13:00hrs US Mountain time 24.09.2021) will show that there were 270,000 fraudulent votes found during the full audit. I wonder how the voting public in The US will respond to this news?

AZ produced the second closest result in the 2020 election. Georgia was the closest with something like only a 0.2% margin win for Biden. Judge Brian Amero has just given the state election commission and the GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) a 20 day limit to explain what was done to investigate the appearance of fake ballots in Fulton county.

Are the wheels about to come off the Biden cart or is this Trump just going full mental?

And yet Cyber Ninjas won't release any documents demanded by the court into their fraudit...
The fraudit was staffed by trumpettes and conspiracy believers, funded by trump supporters and initiated by the Arizona GOP only - who have now washed their hands of anything to do with the fraudit.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-fea...

There's been a number of other audits that found the result stood and there was no fraud.

Even Arizona GOP members say Biden won
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021...



Ten months on and trumpettes are still clutching at straws, willing to believe any little thing, yet not believe any of the proof that trump was put into power with the help of the russians, with russian money...

Good point you've just opened another can of worms there. First indictment has been issued to Hillary lawyer Sussmann for lying to the FBI about Trump and the Ruskies.


"Ultimately, the FBI found that there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations that there was a secret communications channel between the Trump Organization and the Russian bank."

Crazy what some will believe.

Whilst on this point what has happened to Russel Brand of late? I've just watched this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6X03XvxWw

It appears he has made a complete about-turn in political beliefs. I was never a fan but do recollect a distinct uber-liberal stance he generally took. Now he appears to be a full on Trump fan boy making clear claims that the Russiagate saga was a fraudulent corrupt attempt by the Hillary campaign to tarnish the Trump campaign back in 2016. All very strange...

[Electro1980]

CIELLA said:

Whilst on this point what has happened to Russel Brand of late? I've just watched this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6X03XvxWw

It appears he has made a complete about-turn in political beliefs. I was never a fan but do recollect a distinct uber-liberal stance he generally took. Now he appears to be a full on Trump fan boy making clear claims that the Russiagate saga was a fraudulent corrupt attempt by the Hillary campaign to tarnish the Trump campaign back in 2016. All very strange...

Na, he’s always been a fringe wingnut. The only thing that has changed is that he happens to have attached himself to right wing loony theory this time.

[Byker28i]

CIELLA said:

You've got it all wrong Byker, Mike Lindell claims Trump will be back as POTUS in months few, I 5h1t you not:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-linde...

The same Lindell who held a 3 day symposium to prove fraud, but didn't, whose own experts ripped his claims apart.
How many days have we had now when trump was being reinstated? 4 isn't it?

It's been 10 months but apparently they can't get over trump losing, as neither can trump

[Byker28i]

Meanwhile Biden is about to blow trumps executive privilege claim out the water. He's going to release all the info on trumps 6 jan insurrection attempt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-exec...

[Voldemort]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

This has been asked and answered before. Several times.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread before commenting? This is volume 12. Here is a link to the start of volume 1. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Byker28i]

Voldemort said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

This has been asked and answered before. Several times.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread before commenting? This is volume 12. Here is a link to the start of volume 1. https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Its a long thread, but basically he doesn't deserve any respect, but I won't descend down to his level of name calling, where he likes to demean people with names, there's quite a few he's used
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_us...

so, lower case it is.

[Byker28i]

CIELLA said:

AZ full forensic audit results released to the public tomorrow:

Officially Biden won the state by 10457 votes. The results (coming 13:00hrs US Mountain time 24.09.2021) will show that there were 270,000 fraudulent votes found during the full audit. I wonder how the voting public in The US will respond to this news?

AZ produced the second closest result in the 2020 election. Georgia was the closest with something like only a 0.2% margin win for Biden. Judge Brian Amero has just given the state election commission and the GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) a 20 day limit to explain what was done to investigate the appearance of fake ballots in Fulton county.

Are the wheels about to come off the Biden cart or is this Trump just going full mental?

Can't wait for Ceilla's response today...



The recount of Maricopa County's 2020 vote confirms that President Biden won and the election was not stolen from trump as he claimed, according to early versions of a report prepared for the Arizona Senate.

In fact Cyber Ninjas say trump lost by even more. Their hand count showed trump received 45,469 fewer votes than Biden, compared to the county results which showed he lost by 45,109.

The report tried to downplay the loss and make more of alleged process issues, well I guess they've got to justify their fee...
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elect...

[Byker28i]

6 Jan trump insurrection investigation committee has issued subpoenas to four of trumps aides Mark Meadows, Kash Patel, Steve Bannon, and Dan Scavino. They have to produce requested documents by 7 Oct and be prepared to testify the week after that.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/23/jan-6-com...

Edit: Page 156 of 'Peril' by Costa states that Meadows was trying to place Patel at the FBI and later at the CIA.


Edit 2:

Bannon boasted about his part in the insurrection attempt on his show on Wednesday night...
https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-january-6/

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 24th September 07:43

[Byker28i]

Meanwhile, trump won Texas by 600,000+ votes yet trump wrote to Gov Abbott with his 'many people' want an audit...

This is about inserting a procedure in state law for invalidating future elections, in case a Democrat one day figures out how to win statewide in Texas again.




In response, the Texas secretary of state’s office says it has begun a “full forensic audit” of the 2020 general election in Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant counties, but wont admit to what prompted it, 10 months on
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/23/texas-2020...

[Byker28i]

trump obviously hadn't heard about the fraudit results not going in his favour, calling the subpoenas to his staff a distraction


Maricopa County officials response

[Byker28i]

Remember - Cohen says trump will pretend to run for 2024 because he's desperate for money and grifting his cult is easy money. He'll drop out claiming fraud because he doesn't want to lose again.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/michael-coh...

[Byker28i]

Remember that Eric Trump’s lawyer quit and there was speculation that he wasn't being paid, or that Eric had lied to him...

Well turns out Matts Gaetz father was paying for Erics defence lawyer and we find that out the days after we found out Gaetz paid trump $100,000 just as he was seeking a pardon in trumps cash for pardons scheme at the end of his presidency, but trump didn't give him one...

We know Gaetz has employed Mukasey for his defence...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/09/matt-gaetz-hires-m...

Mukasey has been heavily involved for trump, defending trumps pardoned seal Eddie Gallagher, representing trump org, law partner of Giuliani, so for him to walk away even when being paid...

...and what did Gaetz expect for this?

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 24th September 07:28

[Byker28i]

Another day, another insurrectionist arrested, this time Proud Boy Anthony Sargent recognised because of knuckle tattoos
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defenda...