Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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As you may know there was a change of government in Malaysia last week, apparently the new government are reopening the enquirer as they doubt the plane ever returned to Malaysian air space.

On the suicide theory my wife knew the captain and his family, she doesn't think the suicide theory has any merit.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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which is confirmed by anyone else who knew him, he just wasn't a suicidal type

El stovey said:
Which is correct as nobody apparently knows what happened.

All we know is where the aircraft was likely to have been at different times and that the transponder was switched off or stopped working. We have no information whatsoever about why it followed that route at all.

Everything else is guesswork.
I'd say one in a trillion is a fair estimation, in legal practice that means something else happened beyond reasonable doubt.

So you have a case of intentional divert done by someone having no suicidal behaviour, what else is left except failed attempt to bring it to another destination?!

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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AreOut said:
which is confirmed by anyone else who knew him, he just wasn't a suicidal type
"He wasn't the suicidal type" seems to be something said about pretty much everyone who ever commits suicide.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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At the risk of sounding callous, lots of competent people who kill themselves have no history of suicidal behaviour. Because they get it right first time.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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nobody else has ever pulled such a complicated stunt just to commit a suicide, while we do have a case of locking out the other pilot and bringing the plane to another country which happened only couple of weeks before MH370 flight and actually might gave an idea to the captain...

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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AreOut said:
nobody else has ever pulled such a complicated stunt just to commit a suicide, while we do have a case of locking out the other pilot and bringing the plane to another country which happened only couple of weeks before MH370 flight and actually might gave an idea to the captain...
Apart from this one....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

and this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9...

and probably with a bit of research numerous others.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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try reading my post better, the suicides you mentioned happened relatively quickly after departure, without any shenanigans going on

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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It’s all speculation though.

Suicide
Failed attempt to fly to another country
Technical problems
Combinations of the above

Anyone saying their theory is the only one or even the most likely is just guessing.

Areout, that’s why you annoy people, you’re the only one saying your theory is the only possibility and attaching odds to other theories or commenting on the mindset and influences of a now dead person. It’s clearly just guesswork.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Was it Areout's theory that the plane escaped Earth's gravity and ejected itself out into space or was that someone else?

Tankrizzo

7,307 posts

194 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Oakey said:
Was it Areout's theory that the plane escaped Earth's gravity and ejected itself out into space or was that someone else?
Welshbeef I think

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Tankrizzo said:
Oakey said:
Was it Areout's theory that the plane escaped Earth's gravity and ejected itself out into space or was that someone else?
Welshbeef I think
Maybe is got impaled on a passing Falcon rocket?

The Surveyor

7,578 posts

238 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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If the Captain wanted to make a political point, he would have made a political point. You don't make a political point or embarrass a government by silently disappearing.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
At the risk of sounding callous, lots of competent people who kill themselves have no history of suicidal behaviour. Because they get it right first time.
Pretty fair analysis frown

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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It sounds likely but again that’s just a guess. I was at a course of B777 rated pilots and engineers and all kinds of possible scenarios were suggested. Sure some are more likely than others but whatever happened was a very low probability outcome.

It’s simply an event that will likely never be explained now.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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The Surveyor said:
If the Captain wanted to make a political point, he would have made a political point. You don't make a political point or embarrass a government by silently disappearing.
he would do more damage(and actually see results of his adventure) by reappearing in another country, that's why I think he only wanted temporary "invisibility"

even if he had suicidal thoughts evading interception would make him want to see the results of it, not become shark food

El stovey said:
It’s all speculation though.

Suicide
Failed attempt to fly to another country
Technical problems
Combinations of the above

Anyone saying their theory is the only one or even the most likely is just guessing.

Areout, that’s why you annoy people, you’re the only one saying your theory is the only possibility and attaching odds to other theories or commenting on the mindset and influences of a now dead person. It’s clearly just guesswork.
well yeah, I'm guessing my theory is most likely, better now? smile



anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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If you run it out of fuel and did nothing, I think the speed decays initially then it tries to maintain the speed by entering a slow descent to stop stalling.

It’s not something I’ve tried though, normally we practice a double engine failure and attempt to restart the engines whilst descending and finding a runway.

We don’t really practice running it out of fuel and sitting there doing nothing.

The southern ocean isn’t usually very flat though.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 14th May 19:09

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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AreOut said:
well yeah, I'm guessing my theory is most likely, better now? smile
You said he was trying to get to Australia and that was the only possible answer. So no.

Juanco20

3,216 posts

194 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Just watched 60 minutes

There was a brief mention of the co-pilot and it being his first full flight or something along those lines and then no further mention of him. Seems a bit of a coincidence, why no debate by those experts as to whether he locked the pilot out and crashed the plane?

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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Juanco20 said:
Just watched 60 minutes

There was a brief mention of the co-pilot and it being his first full flight or something along those lines and then no further mention of him. Seems a bit of a coincidence, why no debate by those experts as to whether he locked the pilot out and crashed the plane?
young copilot wouldn't have enough knowledge to do this, captain was the only person on the plane who knew that area quite well

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Monday 14th May 2018
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AreOut said:
young copilot wouldn't have enough knowledge to do this, captain was the only person on the plane who knew that area quite well
Why wouldn’t he?
Do you have to know an area ‘well’ to crash a plane?