Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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Chrisgr31

13,512 posts

257 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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It has not been announced as found yet however the last official search company Ocean Infinity are back down there and carrying out a detailed search of the seabed in a small specific area according to Mike Chillit https://twitter.com/mikechillit/status/13951258219...

His timeline for this is interesting as he has been studying it closely for some time and predicting its in that area. Someone, presumably Malaysia, has paid Ocean Infinity to take one of their ships and submersibles there and have a more detailed look.

Mike is pretty convinced they have found it.

The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

119 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
It has not been announced as found yet however the last official search company Ocean Infinity are back down there and carrying out a detailed search of the seabed in a small specific area according to Mike Chillit https://twitter.com/mikechillit/status/13951258219...

His timeline for this is interesting as he has been studying it closely for some time and predicting its in that area. Someone, presumably Malaysia, has paid Ocean Infinity to take one of their ships and submersibles there and have a more detailed look.

Mike is pretty convinced they have found it.
Whereabouts is that site?

Megaflow

9,487 posts

227 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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That is a lot of activity in a small area a long way from the original predicted location. Certainly suggest they have found something interesting.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Chrisgr31 said:
It has not been announced as found yet however the last official search company Ocean Infinity are back down there and carrying out a detailed search of the seabed in a small specific area according to Mike Chillit https://twitter.com/mikechillit/status/13951258219...

His timeline for this is interesting as he has been studying it closely for some time and predicting its in that area. Someone, presumably Malaysia, has paid Ocean Infinity to take one of their ships and submersibles there and have a more detailed look.

Mike is pretty convinced they have found it.
Whereabouts is that site?


Where the ship ‘pressure drop’ is.

The ship doesn’t look to be there at the moment but the picture shows where I think the search has been,

nigelpugh7

6,061 posts

192 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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More interesting that they are trying to actively deny they are performing searches, but they won’t be able to keep that a secret for long now.

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new-mh370-sear...


Gareth79

7,728 posts

248 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Just been reading through his tweets, all very interesting. Looks like he's a slightly controversial researcher, but seems to have found something interesting in a recent scans. If he's turns out to be right, then huge respect to him for his efforts.

jshell

11,092 posts

207 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Pressure drop not tracked on AIS for 12 days but last know coordinates here:
https://www.myshiptracking.com/vessels/pressure-dr...

EddieSteadyGo

12,195 posts

205 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
It has not been announced as found yet however the last official search company Ocean Infinity are back down there and carrying out a detailed search of the seabed in a small specific area according to Mike Chillit https://twitter.com/mikechillit/status/13951258219...

His timeline for this is interesting as he has been studying it closely for some time and predicting its in that area. Someone, presumably Malaysia, has paid Ocean Infinity to take one of their ships and submersibles there and have a more detailed look.

Mike is pretty convinced they have found it.
Interesting link - thanks.

Chrisgr31

13,512 posts

257 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Gareth79 said:
Just been reading through his tweets, all very interesting. Looks like he's a slightly controversial researcher, but seems to have found something interesting in a recent scans. If he's turns out to be right, then huge respect to him for his efforts.
He seems to have spent a lot of time and some money on this. Assuming Ocean Infinity and Pressure Drop are in that location and that they are looking for MH370, whether found or not, it would be interesting to know if its because of the work he has done, and its been verified by somene else, or they are there due to independent work.

Its also not Malaysia who are saying they are not searching is it?

The article also states that Pressure Drop is owned by someone else. Would Ocean Infinity have chartered it or do they operate it on behalf of the owner?

Leithen

11,082 posts

269 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Was Pressure Drop named before or after Bank’s culture novel Hydrogen Sonata?

hidetheelephants

25,020 posts

195 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Leithen said:
Was Pressure Drop named before or after Bank’s culture novel Hydrogen Sonata?
Wiki says it was renamed that in 2017; the NOAA called it McArthur II and the USN called it USNS Indomitable.

Gareth79

7,728 posts

248 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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jshell said:
Pressure drop not tracked on AIS for 12 days but last know coordinates here:
https://www.myshiptracking.com/vessels/pressure-dr...
Mike Chillit has the full live track, I think he has a professional subscription to MarineTraffic which does satellite monitoring of AIS signals.

Hub

6,451 posts

200 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Fascinating if he has finally 'solved' the mystery by spotting something in new mapping data near the location of where he considered the plane went down - is that what happened? Seemed to be the gist of going back through a few Twitter posts

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Hub said:
Fascinating if he has finally 'solved' the mystery by spotting something in new mapping data near the location of where he considered the plane went down - is that what happened? Seemed to be the gist of going back through a few Twitter posts
Quite a few tweets to go back on (I'm currently at 1st May after 30 minutes of looking at this!). It looks like he spotted the object first, and then he realigned the arc to the satellite's position when the plane took off instead of the satellite's position when the plane is thought to have crashed. Makes sense. Apparently he was the first person to do this. Then 5 days ago a vessel appears and starts searching the area after he escalated his findings. The boat goes directly over the object that first started all this.

https://twitter.com/MikeChillit/status/13882111824...

I agree - fascinating!

WatchfulEye

500 posts

130 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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F20CN16 said:
Quite a few tweets to go back on (I'm currently at 1st May after 30 minutes of looking at this!). It looks like he spotted the object first, and then he realigned the arc to the satellite's position when the plane took off instead of the satellite's position when the plane is thought to have crashed. Makes sense. Apparently he was the first person to do this.
Why does it make sense to realign a ping arc, calculated from the satellite's position at the time of the ping, to the satellite's position at the time of take off? The very first report describing the arcs submitted to Malaysia, used the simplification of using the satellite's nominal position at the equator rather than the satellite's actual position; the later refined reports in mid 2014, all used the satellite's actual position at the time of the pings.



Chrisgr31

13,512 posts

257 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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WatchfulEye said:
Why does it make sense to realign a ping arc, calculated from the satellite's position at the time of the ping, to the satellite's position at the time of take off? The very first report describing the arcs submitted to Malaysia, used the simplification of using the satellite's nominal position at the equator rather than the satellite's actual position; the later refined reports in mid 2014, all used the satellite's actual position at the time of the pings.
I think that the realigning occurred because according to the original data the plane didnt take off from KL airport. It was a fact it did take off from the airport so it was possible to use that known error to create an offset. This is from my memory. I havent seen as many of his tweets over the last year as not on the train!

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

46 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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I'll be very happy if MH370 is found, but this guy tweets too much for me to take him seriously.

There are a few points in his posts where he lacks attention to detail; if you lack attention to detail, what else do you miss. For example, there is a graphic where the Earth radius is stated as 6378km. That's the radius at the Equator and would be pretty close to the radius at Kuala Lumpur, but the radius varies. That will not be the radius in the southern Indian Ocean. The Earth is not a sphere. If you are claiming a location of MH370 to within a small distance, then you need to get these details right.

Starfighter

4,945 posts

180 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Simplified for the audience?

EddieSteadyGo

12,195 posts

205 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Iminquarantine said:
I'll be very happy if MH370 is found, but this guy tweets too much for me to take him seriously.

There are a few points in his posts where he lacks attention to detail; if you lack attention to detail, what else do you miss. For example, there is a graphic where the Earth radius is stated as 6378km. That's the radius at the Equator and would be pretty close to the radius at Kuala Lumpur, but the radius varies. That will not be the radius in the southern Indian Ocean. The Earth is not a sphere. If you are claiming a location of MH370 to within a small distance, then you need to get these details right.
You should tweet him your critique. He doesn't have millions of followers so I'm sure he reads every response. And it gives him the opportunity to respond. Interested to hear what answer you get.

WatchfulEye

500 posts

130 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
I think that the realigning occurred because according to the original data the plane didnt take off from KL airport. It was a fact it did take off from the airport so it was possible to use that known error to create an offset. This is from my memory. I havent seen as many of his tweets over the last year as not on the train!
This was part of the refined analysis performed in late March 2014, which among other things also used actual satellite positions not an assumed position.