45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
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Challo said:
Trump says so many words but says so little.
Have to give it to him though.....he is the bestest bullsh*tter in the world.
I'm reading the new Trump book and it has a verbatim account of his speech to the CIA on the day after his inauguration. It really makes for grim reading; full of absolute bullsh*t about the crowd size the day before, fake news, I'm the best etc.Have to give it to him though.....he is the bestest bullsh*tter in the world.
RobDickinson said:
I think we need a presidential challenge.
Trump to stand up in public in the next 7 days and, unaided, recite the words of the national anthem. Being a genius with the best memory I'm sure it'd be quite simple.
I'm also sure he couldn't do it.
To be fair, I'm not sure that Theresa May might not get caught out on verse three of the UK National Anthem - I know I did at the Last Night of the Proms 2016 - luckily I don't think the TV cameras were pointed in my direction. They only did one verse last year - much easier.Trump to stand up in public in the next 7 days and, unaided, recite the words of the national anthem. Being a genius with the best memory I'm sure it'd be quite simple.
I'm also sure he couldn't do it.
It's hard to think of how much less Presidential that Trump can now appear to be. Short of standing up to speak at a public event, getting his old chap out, waving it at the cameras and then urinating on the front row of the audience.
I note the next State of the Union address will be on 30th January. Can't wait.
tim0409 said:
Challo said:
Trump says so many words but says so little.
Have to give it to him though.....he is the bestest bullsh*tter in the world.
I'm reading the new Trump book and it has a verbatim account of his speech to the CIA on the day after his inauguration. It really makes for grim reading; full of absolute bullsh*t about the crowd size the day before, fake news, I'm the best etc.Have to give it to him though.....he is the bestest bullsh*tter in the world.
The incoherent repetitive narcissistic ramblings of someone with no clue.
paulguitar said:
Pay more attention, (to someone other than the orange muppet), there is plenty sticking. The Mueller investigation does not update daily, weekly or monthly, but they have already uncovered some astonishing shenanigans, and I think we all know there will be rather a lot more to come...
There's the news that quietly arrived that mueller has added a cyber crime expert to his team in November. Probably due to the growing evidence the Trump campaign's data analytics arm had been feeding targeting data to the Kremlin's online propaganda campaign for the targeted social media adverts etc.Not assisting in the hacks, but as previously reported, a server in Trump Tower feeding voter targeting data, a the time there was heavy social media activity with false advert, bots making opinions, in the swing states from russian farms.
Back to the dossier and team trump (and republican) claims that this was the cause of the FBI investigation.
It turns out that not only was this started by Papadopolous's actions, bragging and attempts to engineer a meeting between trump and Putin, or the many reports by foreign intelligence agencies, but also Carter-Page was under surveillance previous to his trip to russia in July 2016 as russian agents had tried to previously recruit him in 2013.
When Trump announced him as his specialist foreign advisor along with Papadopolous (the only two names he gave), Carter-Page suddenly became of further interest to the russians, hence his trip and speech. He's also given over 20 hours of rambling testimony to the meetings he had there.
It turns out that not only was this started by Papadopolous's actions, bragging and attempts to engineer a meeting between trump and Putin, or the many reports by foreign intelligence agencies, but also Carter-Page was under surveillance previous to his trip to russia in July 2016 as russian agents had tried to previously recruit him in 2013.
When Trump announced him as his specialist foreign advisor along with Papadopolous (the only two names he gave), Carter-Page suddenly became of further interest to the russians, hence his trip and speech. He's also given over 20 hours of rambling testimony to the meetings he had there.
Mannafort and Gates are being sued by a russian oligarch for more than $25m after a failed business deal and are using the evidence from their indictment as proof of their fraud.
Oligarchs tend to do Putins bidding, he made them rich in the first place. Whilst this dispute goes back 7 years, this is a new move by Deripaska who has been repeatedly denied a visa to enter the United States over his alleged ties to organized crime but has now been given diplomatic status by the Russian government, allowing him to enter the U.S. with immunity.
Interesting timing. Putin applying more pressure?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-oliga...
Oligarchs tend to do Putins bidding, he made them rich in the first place. Whilst this dispute goes back 7 years, this is a new move by Deripaska who has been repeatedly denied a visa to enter the United States over his alleged ties to organized crime but has now been given diplomatic status by the Russian government, allowing him to enter the U.S. with immunity.
Interesting timing. Putin applying more pressure?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-oliga...
RobDickinson said:
To be fair there's been a few, usually minutes after Fox New has run a story on something. There was one about 'Sneaky Dianne Feinstein', one moaning about Daca and the courts, both just after Fox news broadcasts on them.Byker28i said:
There's the news that quietly arrived that mueller has added a cyber crime expert to his team in November. Probably due to the growing evidence the Trump campaign's data analytics arm had been feeding targeting data to the Kremlin's online propaganda campaign for the targeted social media adverts etc
Tangentially I read something in the last day or two claiming that up to 85% of social media postings in Spain about the Catalonia independence referendum came from Russia. No idea if true but that's a hella bold claim.From the Fusion GPS testimony, it's easy to see some republicans not interested in the story, in what was in the dossier, but instead spent some considerable time trying to accuse Simpson instead.
Also the mention of someone being killed over the dossier is interesting that only one is mentioned? It's assumed this is Oleg Erovinkin, found dead in the back of his car in December 2016. Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier. It was claimed he died of a heart attack, just like others though to be possible sources to the dossier. It certainly was a bad time to be a russian diplomat
The duty commander involved with security affairs at the New York Russian Consulate died of a heart attack according to the russians, later revised to 'he fell from the roof' when medics pointed out the obvious head trauma.
Nikolai Gorokhov who represented Magnitsky, 'fell' from the fourth floor of his Moscow apartment
A senior Russian diplomat Petr Polshikov, found with a pillow over his head and shot aged 56, Russians said this was an accident
A senior diplomat at the Russian embassy in Greece Andrey Malanin found dead from 'natural causes' aged 54
Russia's ambassador to Turkey, Andrey Karlov was assassinated in Ankara aged 62
The Russian ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin died after a sudden illness aged 67 in January
The Russian Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin died of a sudden heart attack aged 64 in february.
Denis Voronenkov gunned down in Kiev, claimed as a russian state terrorist attack by the Ukrainian president. He was testifying in a treason trial against Putin puppet ex-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych
Washington DC are renaming a road after a Putin critic who was also shot. Boris Nemtsov Plaza
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/3...
Also the mention of someone being killed over the dossier is interesting that only one is mentioned? It's assumed this is Oleg Erovinkin, found dead in the back of his car in December 2016. Erovinkin was a key aide to Igor Sechin, a former deputy prime minister and now head of Rosneft, the state-owned oil company, who is repeatedly named in the dossier. It was claimed he died of a heart attack, just like others though to be possible sources to the dossier. It certainly was a bad time to be a russian diplomat
The duty commander involved with security affairs at the New York Russian Consulate died of a heart attack according to the russians, later revised to 'he fell from the roof' when medics pointed out the obvious head trauma.
Nikolai Gorokhov who represented Magnitsky, 'fell' from the fourth floor of his Moscow apartment
A senior Russian diplomat Petr Polshikov, found with a pillow over his head and shot aged 56, Russians said this was an accident
A senior diplomat at the Russian embassy in Greece Andrey Malanin found dead from 'natural causes' aged 54
Russia's ambassador to Turkey, Andrey Karlov was assassinated in Ankara aged 62
The Russian ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin died after a sudden illness aged 67 in January
The Russian Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin died of a sudden heart attack aged 64 in february.
Denis Voronenkov gunned down in Kiev, claimed as a russian state terrorist attack by the Ukrainian president. He was testifying in a treason trial against Putin puppet ex-Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych
Washington DC are renaming a road after a Putin critic who was also shot. Boris Nemtsov Plaza
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/3...
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th January 09:08
minimoog said:
Byker28i said:
There's the news that quietly arrived that mueller has added a cyber crime expert to his team in November. Probably due to the growing evidence the Trump campaign's data analytics arm had been feeding targeting data to the Kremlin's online propaganda campaign for the targeted social media adverts etc
Tangentially I read something in the last day or two claiming that up to 85% of social media postings in Spain about the Catalonia independence referendum came from Russia. No idea if true but that's a hella bold claim.Byker28i said:
There was evidence of attempts in the German elections, in the French and implications in the Brexit vote as well apparently. Seems the russians are well ahead in weaponising social media.
The real beauty of it is that it's incredibly effective, but sounds absolutely insane when you describe how they do it to somebody.Nobody likes to think they are influenced by what they see on social media.
Without knowledge of just how automated and specific the targeting can be, the workload alone would sound impossible.
Byker28i said:
RobDickinson said:
To be fair there's been a few, usually minutes after Fox New has run a story on something. There was one about 'Sneaky Dianne Feinstein', one moaning about Daca and the courts, both just after Fox news broadcasts on them.Well we know thats false as it was brought about by the actions of Papadopolus and Carter-Page, yet he has to keep saying it.
The trouble is, the collusion has already been proven. Now about his money trail and obstruction charges...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368365-...
gofasterrosssco said:
partisan and close-minded a lot of his existing support is..
His mate and Republican candidate for senator still pushing the idea that Obama had a fake birth certificate, no doubt the Trumpanzees will lap it up.http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/10/politics/joe-arp...
He's been tweeting after another Fox and Friends article on Hillary
Disproven and paid for by Democrats “Dossier used to spy on Trump Campaign. Did FBI use Intel tool to influence the Election?” @foxandfriends Did Dems or Clinton also pay Russians? Where are hidden and smashed DNC servers? Where are Crooked Hillary Emails? What a mess!
Disproven and paid for by Democrats “Dossier used to spy on Trump Campaign. Did FBI use Intel tool to influence the Election?” @foxandfriends Did Dems or Clinton also pay Russians? Where are hidden and smashed DNC servers? Where are Crooked Hillary Emails? What a mess!
Conway is saying Trumps backing off on the wall. Suddenly, when he can't get a budget or the mexicans to pay for it, he's "discovered" there doesn't need to be a "physical wall" along the country's entire southern border.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368450-...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368450-...
RobDickinson said:
Its odd watching him 15-20 years ago he's actually far better spoken and on the ball
As has been noted in some quarters, the decline in his vocabulary, delivery and motor skills (holding a glass with both hands to take a sip of water) is highly suggestive that he is suffering from frontotemporal dementia.Byker28i said:
He's been tweeting after another Fox and Friends article on Hillary
Disproven and paid for by Democrats “Dossier used to spy on Trump Campaign. Did FBI use Intel tool to influence the Election?” @foxandfriends Did Dems or Clinton also pay Russians? Where are hidden and smashed DNC servers? Where are Crooked Hillary Emails? What a mess!
And did so just after Conway said no one in the White House is talking about Hillary. His timing, as ever is impeccable.Disproven and paid for by Democrats “Dossier used to spy on Trump Campaign. Did FBI use Intel tool to influence the Election?” @foxandfriends Did Dems or Clinton also pay Russians? Where are hidden and smashed DNC servers? Where are Crooked Hillary Emails? What a mess!
Another gem from the Donald, in a 1:58 minute video during an interview that was 100% nothing to do with collusion, he mentioned it 7 times:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/10/politics/trump-...
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