CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 5)

[isaldiri]

EddieSteadyGo said:

It would go back to looking like early March, albeit with a much slower pace of growth.

Nah, not possible surely. Who cares about what the ONS prevalence survey or react surveys are saying. It's all false positives, we are all mostly immune, no one is susceptible anymore and the virus is done.....

[anonymous-user]

johnboy1975 said:

Desmond Swayne for PM!!

First thing i thought, a Tory with a backbone, would get my vote. I'm sick to my teeth of all this Boris BS.

[MDMetal]

The Spruce Goose said:

MDMetal said:

Explain differently? You think they're have ordered less PPE through less companies? Different companies? I think you'd be surprised to find out they'd probably do much the same to any noticeable degree.

In the hypothetical world you can make up anything to fit your argument, in the real world we work off actions, which we can make comments about.

What is your opinion of 120 million given to a company set up by an ex tory advisor, which turned out to be junk.

Or 250 million to another company that has no track record in this industry but ties to the political party.

it goes on...

Like you I'm no expert, I assume the PPE was delivered so mission accomplished? If they hadn't then they wouldn't have got paid? This reeks of the fuss kicked up over Chris Graylings little ferry cruise where people were getting hot and bothers someone had a contract but no ferries and therefore wouldn't have seen a penny meanwhile the actual story was excluding euro tunnel from.the tender process who then took the government to court and received far more than the ferry company would have got even if they had some ferries.. but please do continue.

[Zoobeef]

The Spruce Goose said:

First thing i thought, a Tory with a backbone, would get my vote. I'm sick to my teeth of all this Boris BS.

The fact that he looks like a posh Clark Kent is great too.

[anonymous-user]

MDMetal said:

but please do continue.

Well it isn't just my view though, the Gov is currently getting sued over the way it handled it all, pretty big really not seen that before.

The Gov actually broke the law many times over awarding the 5.5 billion in contracts, but I guess that is o.k in your eyes Labour would have done the same.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 26th October 22:42

[Turfy]

LeighW said:

Turfy said:

If you think the cronies all don’t have their hand in the cookie jar

https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/132077784...

All the big dodgy deals in one place...inc £708m of gowns and used so far £550k, so 28 years worth and we over paid for them all...

He’s a QC and boy is he after all the corrupt deals!!

Jesus Christ. Heads should roll for this. Why aren't the media all over it?!

They are and this chap has the weight behind him to get all these dodgy little deals exposed; little ££708m

Look at the rest too, the profit and all to new, overseas, inexperienced companies...but tenuous connections

[anonymous-user]

Zoobeef said:

The fact that he looks like a posh Clark Kent is great too.

As much as people think i might hate the Tory Party, it is more the ineptitude and morally bankruptcy of Boris and his side kick. The party really needs someone with backbone, and a strong jaw line.

[Alucidnation]

The Spruce Goose said:

MDMetal said:

but please do continue.

Well it isn't just my view though, the Gov is currently getting sued over it he way it handled it all....

Are they?

[MDMetal]

The Spruce Goose said:

MDMetal said:

but please do continue.

Well it isn't just my view though, the Gov is currently getting sued over it he way it handled it all, pretty big really not seen that before.

The Goc actually broke the law many times over the awarding 5 billion contracts, but I guess that is o.k in your eyes Labour would have done the same.

If you say so...

[anonymous-user]

Alucidnation said:

Are they?

Iff course, it's been posted many times on this thread and the legal thread..

[320d is all you need]

rich888 said:

pocty said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Herd Stupidity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NutSbOJd5g&fe...

Pocty

Hey Pocty thanks for posting the Youtube link on here, that was a bl**dy awesome speech. Now let's hope that Boris takes heed of what was said, comes to his senses, and kicks the idiots out.

I watched that.

What a fabulous rant/speech.

Please, continue - keep saying this message.

[pocty]

johnboy1975 said:

rich888 said:

pocty said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Herd Stupidity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NutSbOJd5g&fe...

Pocty

Hey Pocty thanks for posting the Youtube link on here, that was a bl**dy awesome speech. Now let's hope that Boris takes heed of what was said, comes to his senses, and kicks the idiots out.

Desmond Swayne for PM!!

Pocty

[anonymous-user]

MDMetal said:

If you say so...

You come up with some original lines.

Anyway to help you out have a read.

https://goodlawproject.org/news/the-ppe-fiasco/

There are currently 3 actions against the Gov in awarding PPE contracts.

PestFix
Clandeboye
Ayanda

[Turfy]

MDMetal said:

The Spruce Goose said:

MDMetal said:

Explain differently? You think they're have ordered less PPE through less companies? Different companies? I think you'd be surprised to find out they'd probably do much the same to any noticeable degree.

In the hypothetical world you can make up anything to fit your argument, in the real world we work off actions, which we can make comments about.

What is your opinion of 120 million given to a company set up by an ex tory advisor, which turned out to be junk.

Or 250 million to another company that has no track record in this industry but ties to the political party.

it goes on...

Like you I'm no expert, I assume the PPE was delivered so mission accomplished? If they hadn't then they wouldn't have got paid? This reeks of the fuss kicked up over Chris Graylings little ferry cruise where people were getting hot and bothers someone had a contract but no ferries and therefore wouldn't have seen a penny meanwhile the actual story was excluding euro tunnel from.the tender process who then took the government to court and received far more than the ferry company would have got even if they had some ferries.. but please do continue.

£100bn Operation Moonshot is on the way; the corruption and revenues thus far is peanuts!!!

PPE delivered late as all the right companies were put in place to be overpayed and under deliver. The government has been buying £10 notes for £20 from the select few whilst the rest are offering a £10 note for a modest uplift!

[Alucidnation]

The Spruce Goose said:

Alucidnation said:

Are they?

Iff course, it's been posted many times on this thread and the legal thread..

Ah fair enough.

Maybe the media haven't picked up on it yet.

[2gins]

rich888 said:

pocty said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Herd Stupidity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NutSbOJd5g&fe...

Pocty

Hey Pocty thanks for posting the Youtube link on here, that was a bl**dy awesome speech. Now let's hope that Boris takes heed of what was said, comes to his senses, and kicks the idiots out.

Pity nobody was there to hear it.

[johnboy1975]

And yet.....the Telegraph leads with "immunity may only lasts a few months"

https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/daily-telegraph-...



Why have we seen FIVE reinfections (all 5 a different strain) worldwide then, in 10 months??????

FFS

Journalists simply cannot add up. Worse, when they put 2+2 into their calculator, and the answer comes back 6.372 they go off and write a scaremongering headline. They even say in the first paragraph that the vaccine might need to be given TWICE a year....... ()

[Turfy]

Alucidnation said:

The Spruce Goose said:

Alucidnation said:

Are they?

Iff course, it's been posted many times on this thread and the legal thread..

Ah fair enough.

Maybe the media haven't picked up on it yet.

He’s quoted to say the “the BBC is refusing to report it”...watch this space!

[Alucidnation]

2gins said:

rich888 said:

pocty said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Herd Stupidity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NutSbOJd5g&fe...

Pocty

Hey Pocty thanks for posting the Youtube link on here, that was a bl**dy awesome speech. Now let's hope that Boris takes heed of what was said, comes to his senses, and kicks the idiots out.

Pity nobody was there to hear it.

Nobody listens to him in his constituency either.

[MDMetal]

The Spruce Goose said:

MDMetal said:

If you say so...

You come up with some original lines.

Anyway to help you out have a read.

https://goodlawproject.org/news/the-ppe-fiasco/

There are currently 3 actions against the Gov in awarding PPE contracts.

PestFix
Clandeboye
Ayanda

Good for them it's peanuts and if Mr anti Brexit wins I'm.sure he'll feel smug and pretend his terrible record this far in pushing cases is somehow leading up to this big one.

Back in the realworld this goes on all the time and is peanuts compared to the big issues. What's it all.cost? Half a week of furlough? Crack on...