80 years ago today - Britain Declares War on Germany
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Today -
One of the largest cities in Poland, Lublin, fell to the Germans.
The Polish submarine "Orzel" and its crew, which had been interned by the Estonians, managed to escape and eventually made it to Scotland 27 days later. Their navigation charts had been confiscated by the Estonian authorities but it is rumoured that replacement charts may have been smuggled to them by a British Embassy official, although that has never been confirmed. The Russians were not happy that Estonia appeared to have been so sloppy and threatened invasion.
Irishman William Joyce began broadcasting his anti-British propaganda from Berlin. He was later nicknamed "Lord Haw Haw" and broadcast throughout the war. After the war had ended, he was executed by the British as a traitor, although he had claimed that he was from a neutral country.
One of the largest cities in Poland, Lublin, fell to the Germans.
The Polish submarine "Orzel" and its crew, which had been interned by the Estonians, managed to escape and eventually made it to Scotland 27 days later. Their navigation charts had been confiscated by the Estonian authorities but it is rumoured that replacement charts may have been smuggled to them by a British Embassy official, although that has never been confirmed. The Russians were not happy that Estonia appeared to have been so sloppy and threatened invasion.
Irishman William Joyce began broadcasting his anti-British propaganda from Berlin. He was later nicknamed "Lord Haw Haw" and broadcast throughout the war. After the war had ended, he was executed by the British as a traitor, although he had claimed that he was from a neutral country.
Sorry for the lack of updates over the past few days. I've been a bit busy work wise.
September 19 1939
The main events of this day consisted chiefly of both German and Soviet terretorial gains as they squeezed Poland from east and west.
Adolf Hitler visited the "liberated" town of Danzig.
September 20 1939
The German submarine U-27 was sunk off the west coast of Scotland by Royal Navy destroyers.
September 21 1939
Reinhard Heydrich, who was later the architect of "The Final Solution", ordered that German Jews and Romany people be deported to newly occupied territories in Poland. Conversely, German speaking Poles began to be "repatriated" into Germany and were given the homes of those who had been kicked out of Germany. Those Nazis certainly moved fast - we're just three weeks into this war and they are already putting into effect wholesale removal of Jews and other "undesirables" from the German Reich.
The Prime Minister of Romania, Armand Calinescu, was assassinated by left wing partisans (on the instructions of Stalin, most likely).
President Roosevelt requested Congress change the US's neutrality laws to allow the sale of armaments to "democratic" countries. He was specifically thinking of Britain and France.
September 19 1939
The main events of this day consisted chiefly of both German and Soviet terretorial gains as they squeezed Poland from east and west.
Adolf Hitler visited the "liberated" town of Danzig.
September 20 1939
The German submarine U-27 was sunk off the west coast of Scotland by Royal Navy destroyers.
September 21 1939
Reinhard Heydrich, who was later the architect of "The Final Solution", ordered that German Jews and Romany people be deported to newly occupied territories in Poland. Conversely, German speaking Poles began to be "repatriated" into Germany and were given the homes of those who had been kicked out of Germany. Those Nazis certainly moved fast - we're just three weeks into this war and they are already putting into effect wholesale removal of Jews and other "undesirables" from the German Reich.
The Prime Minister of Romania, Armand Calinescu, was assassinated by left wing partisans (on the instructions of Stalin, most likely).
President Roosevelt requested Congress change the US's neutrality laws to allow the sale of armaments to "democratic" countries. He was specifically thinking of Britain and France.
23 September 1919
The Poles actually won a battle today - Krosnobrod. Just delayed the inevitable, of course. It is interesting that here and there during the Polish campaign, Germany did not have it all its own way.
On this day also, Jews living in Germany were forced to hand in their radio sets.
On a non-World War 2 note, Sigmund Freud died.
24 September 1939
Germany started its area bombing campaign against the city of Warsaw. I'm surprised to see that it was over three weeks into the campaign before systematic bombing of the Polish capital began.
The Poles actually won a battle today - Krosnobrod. Just delayed the inevitable, of course. It is interesting that here and there during the Polish campaign, Germany did not have it all its own way.
On this day also, Jews living in Germany were forced to hand in their radio sets.
On a non-World War 2 note, Sigmund Freud died.
24 September 1939
Germany started its area bombing campaign against the city of Warsaw. I'm surprised to see that it was over three weeks into the campaign before systematic bombing of the Polish capital began.
Bo_apex said:
Daimler Benz played a central role in producing the tanks and guns
So? That's what you would expect from German manufacturers.German industry was instrumental in supplying the Wermacht, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine. What else would you expect?
As well as that, industrial concerns in occupied countries also produced material for the German war effort. Skoda made Panzer tanks, for example, and Amiot built Junkers 52s.
Every time I pass by Brooklands on the train and look at Mercedes Benz World, the fact that 80 years ago Daimler Benz powered aircraft were trying to flatten the same location does cross my mind as being slightly ironic.
After a hectic week with restricted time available for updates, I'm back.
Today 80 years ago, the Polish government in exile was set up in Paris. It was obvious that the Polish government knew that there was no way they could avoid occupation - even though the Polish Army and Air Force was still trying to fight on.
Today 80 years ago, the Polish government in exile was set up in Paris. It was obvious that the Polish government knew that there was no way they could avoid occupation - even though the Polish Army and Air Force was still trying to fight on.
DoubleD said:
Eric Mc said:
As I said months ago, I was trying to keep the discussion to what was actually going in 80 years ago to the day rather than get involved in a big discussion on which war was more important than the other. That's for another thread, if someone wants to discuss it.
So no different opinions to your own are allowed then. I'd prefer another thread for that too.
It's just that this was all discussed quite well much earlier in the thread but it isn't really in the spirit off what the thread was supposed to be about - which was letting people know what happened in World War 2 as the war progressed.
I am not objecting to people discussing the importance of World War 2 vis a vis any other war, but it would be better done on its own specific thread.
I am not objecting to people discussing the importance of World War 2 vis a vis any other war, but it would be better done on its own specific thread.
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