Who Will replace Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader

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Angela for Deputy

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Political betting is currently making much of the fact Becky Long-Bailey is yet to declare.

Current runners and riders are Starmer, Nandy, Phillips, Thornberry and Lewis.

Personally I think that's more than enough people to give voters a reasonable choice and to have some reasonable hustings.

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Where does Jess Phillips sit on the left-right spectrum of the Labour party?

The others, from left to right would roughly sit in the order

Thornberry- Lewis-Nandy- Starmer* wouldn't they, but I'm struggling to see where JP sits?

• just my impression, even Starmer is no Blairite.

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Not paying £25, assuming that article is correct. My max would have been a tenner.

ho-hum.

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Blib said:

Labour's demonstrably middle class membership can afford £25.

But the membership won't have to pay anything!

This is the fee for non-members to vote.

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Comstock said:

Blib said:

Labour's demonstrably middle class membership can afford £25.

But the membership won't have to pay anything!

This is the fee for non-members to vote.

What could possibly go wrong

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loafer123 said:

Anyway, so far, Boris seems to be doing fine...

Very very early days though. This will be a 4 or 5 year parliament, we aren't even a month into it yet.....

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So they drag it out for 3 months
Rightyo

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Do we think *any* of these candidates could win in 2024, or is this a ten year procees?

If the latter, then the important battle is for the next but one leader, and that might be someone who's only just entered parliament.

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Biker 1 said:

Why do all the pictures of Rebecca look like she is in agony? In the BBC item it looks like she's having major issues on the throne: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51012381

I think the impression you are supposed to get is that she is passionate about the subject she is speaking about, but your interpretation made me chuckle

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Comstock said:

Do we think *any* of these candidates could win in 2024, or is this a ten year procees?

If the latter, then the important battle is for the next but one leader, and that might be someone who's only just entered parliament.

I doubt anyone of them could win £20.24p on the bingo

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Earthdweller said:

Corbyn should have resigned immediately

You’re error is to confuse him with someone with integrity, decency and humility.

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crankedup said:

On a more serious note, imagine if you will Labour had won the GE a few weeks back, how would they be handling the Middle East crisis right now

he'd be a strong leader and take strong action.

I imagine he'd commit to sending a large force to the Middle East, in order to send a message, that we will defeat terrorism, whilst supporting and fighting alongside our Iranian brothers.

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Andy 308GTB said:

loafer123 said:

rigga said:

Earthdweller said:

Corbyn should have resigned immediately

Only if he believed he was in the wrong, or part of the reason labour lost so badly, he doesn't, so why would he?

They say "We won the argument" when someone reminds them they lost, and lost badly.

Makes me laugh every time.

RLB is blindly following this path. That's why she has the support of Corbyn/McDonnell/Momentum and all the other loons.
She's going to win the leadership race. She really is.

I read somewhere that this group are still trying to appeal to the 'Working Class' but the Working Class doesn't exist anymore, other than in their heads.
So out of touch. I wonder whether the Labour Party is now past saving and a new party will have to emerge, formed of the 'Tory Lite' members that RLB et al dislike?

I do hope she does. That’ll be the end of them for a couple of decades.

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techguyone said:

I wondered this some weeks ago, will Labour go the way that Liberal did in the early part of the 20th Century, a lot of Labours appeal is to a class war that no longer really exists, on manufacturing industrys that are no longer there, the world's moved on. Have they?

You may be right but that begs the question ' what will replace them?'

Obviously in Scotland that is the SNP, but in England and Wales?

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crankedup said:

janesmith1950 said:

crankedup said:

On a more serious note, imagine if you will Labour had won the GE a few weeks back, how would they be handling the Middle East crisis right now

he'd be a strong leader and take strong action.

I imagine he'd commit to sending a large force to the Middle East, in order to send a message, that we will defeat terrorism, whilst supporting and fighting alongside our Iranian brothers.

Or sit around ‘staying neutral’ whilst the cauldron bubbles. Either way thankfully we do have a Government that can ‘manage’.

Perhaps he’d have gone over there for talks and been taken hostage.

We could have negotiated his release in about 20 years.

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Blackpuddin said:

A bit annoying though if you're one of the reshuffle promotees and then get immediately put back in your box by the new leader

Sure, but politics can be a tough business. The promotees will know the score and know they may be back on the back benches come April.

And of course they will still be MPs on 80k a year. In fact I'm not even sure if being a junior shadow minister carries any extra salary?

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zygalski said:

So according to the collective PH Tory/UKIP/Britain First think tank, Labour are now a political irrelevance.
Considering the Tories actually got less votes in 1997 and 2001 than Corbyn the Commie did, were the Tories politically irrelevant during those times?

UK population 1997 = 58314249
UK population 2019 = 66521962

8 million more people in the UK than in 1997

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zygalski said:

jsf said:

zygalski said:

So according to the collective PH Tory/UKIP/Britain First think tank, Labour are now a political irrelevance.
Considering the Tories actually got less votes in 1997 and 2001 than Corbyn the Commie did, were the Tories politically irrelevant during those times?

UK population 1997 = 58314249
UK population 2019 = 66521962

8 million more people in the UK than in 1997

And how do you account for the lower % share of the vote for the Tories in 1997 & 2001 than Corbyn's Labour in 2019?

Stupid, easily conned electorate?

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zygalski said:

And how do you account for the lower % share of the vote for the Tories in 1997 & 2001 than Corbyn's Labour in 2019?

I'd have to analyse the various party numbers properly, which i cant be arsed to do, to give a proper answer, but Blair was seen very much like a Torie with a red tie, so wasn't such a scary thought for the middle ground, sucking in lots of floating voters, add to that how sick of Major the country was and that easily gives the poor result for the Tories back then. Major was a knobhead, made lots of errors including embedding us further into the EU whilst calling his backbenchers bds, it didn't end well.