Home Office staff to strike on eve of Games

[Fittster]

Eric Mc said:

Fittster said:

Eric Mc said:

And you really believe that's why the strike was called off?

What facts do you have?

Well, we have two statements.

One from Serotka claiming that he has successfully negotiated new jobs and claiming that it is because of this that the strike has been called of.

We also have a government statement saying that these jobs had been negotiated for and agreed months ago and had nothing to do with the call off of the strike.

Funny how the strike was called off with barely 60 minutes before a court was going to rule on its legality.

I reckon the word was coming down the the strike was going to be deemed by the judge to have been illegally called.

Perfectly possible to reckon the other way and that the government will do anything to avoid looking bad during the Olympics.

[Eric Mc]

Of course. the truth is somewhere in between, more than likely,.

No one tells the truth any more - only spin and lies.

[elster]

Fittster said:

Eric Mc said:

Fittster said:

Eric Mc said:

And you really believe that's why the strike was called off?

What facts do you have?

Well, we have two statements.

One from Serotka claiming that he has successfully negotiated new jobs and claiming that it is because of this that the strike has been called of.

We also have a government statement saying that these jobs had been negotiated for and agreed months ago and had nothing to do with the call off of the strike.

Funny how the strike was called off with barely 60 minutes before a court was going to rule on its legality.

I reckon the word was coming down the the strike was going to be deemed by the judge to have been illegally called.

Perfectly possible to reckon the other way and that the government will do anything to avoid looking bad during the Olympics.

The Government have said they have negotiated nothing with the PCS.

Mark Serwotka has said there will be more jobs.

The other unions have voiced concerns over Mark's agenda. He is the leftyist lefty you can find out there and with a 10% support, it was not going to be popular.

I can't see him remaining the boss for much longer.

[anonymous-user]

I thought Serwotka read from his statement script very well. What a prick.

[DJRC]

But at least it looks like I can actually get home tomorrow and out of the airport

[anonymous-user]

Bonus!

[martin84]

martin84 on Friday 20th July 2012 said:

They're not going to strike, this is just grandstanding

[johnfm]

Fittster said:

Eric Mc said:

And you really believe that's why the strike was called off?

What facts do you have?

Hmm, 45 minutes or so before the court challenge...looks like they messed up the technical elements of the ballot again.

[McHaggis]

johnfm said:

Hmm, 45 minutes or so before the court challenge...looks like they messed up the technical elements of the ballot again.

As I understand it, most membership lists of most unions are not up to date or accurate.

Therefore some non-members would have voted, and some people would not have been balloted. I understand this is often the most common challenge to the process.

[Sgt Bilko]

Worthy of a thread bumpage.

The UKBF have just completed the first stage of a recruitment of 300 Immigration Officers (and more Immigration Officer Assistants) for most front line positions.

[telecat]

DSM2 said:

telecat said:

But you missed the point. That is you HAD a good service and Due to cuts you have lost it. The Money you are paying is NOT going to the services any more. It is going to cut government debt. Now I would support cuts in Civil Servants at Whitehall where the Higher Paid ones that "support" the government are, and also places like the NHS "Management", MOD, DVLA, HMRC and CSA but they aren't being affected by the look of it. The staff you contact and need to be there are being cut. Front line Police, Medical staff, Immigration Officer's and the Military. Given the calibre of staff such as G4S seem to be able to recruit at the levels of pay they seem to think is viable do you think you will get better value for money from the private sector?

Going to cut the debt rather than paying for services, eh? And where do you think the debt came from? FFS.

Our public services are, in general, very poor value for money and no worse than the likes of G4S will deliver.

I'd rather see more cuts to reduce debt, followed by lower taxes than would otherwise be needed, than continue to see our money wasted as it has been on overblown public 'services'.

So you do not want Police, Immigration Officers etc? The debts came from trying to prop up immigration that became a drain on the existing resources, setting up agencies that nobody needed and overmanning back office functions. My main problem with those who blame the Public sector ALONE is that House Building and speculation was the main culprit. You cannot maintain a market where house values allow large amounts of unearned income to be loaned by banks. That's where the problem started and the Governemnt STILL thinks House Building is an answer to the Problem.

[anonymous-user]

telecat said:

So you do not want Police, Immigration Officers etc? The debts came from trying to prop up immigration that became a drain on the existing resources, setting up agencies that nobody needed and overmanning back office functions. My main problem with those who blame the Public sector ALONE is that House Building and speculation was the main culprit. You cannot maintain a market where house values allow large amounts of unearned income to be loaned by banks. That's where the problem started and the Governemnt STILL thinks House Building is an answer to the Problem.

Government debt, the deficit, didn't come from the housing market. It came because of far too high spending on the PS.

The incumbent Government may well have stupidly relied on the 'boom', which included the housing bubble, to fund its profligacy but it was overspending in the PS that fked us.

[Sgt Bilko]

REALIST123 said:

telecat said:

So you do not want Police, Immigration Officers etc? The debts came from trying to prop up immigration that became a drain on the existing resources, setting up agencies that nobody needed and overmanning back office functions. My main problem with those who blame the Public sector ALONE is that House Building and speculation was the main culprit. You cannot maintain a market where house values allow large amounts of unearned income to be loaned by banks. That's where the problem started and the Governemnt STILL thinks House Building is an answer to the Problem.

Government debt, the deficit, didn't come from the housing market. It came because of far too high spending on the PS.

The incumbent Government may well have stupidly relied on the 'boom', which included the housing bubble, to fund its profligacy but it was overspending in the PS that fked us.

Wow. Just the overspending in the PS was it? Not the foreign economic policy, overseas aid or military deployment spending.