Conversion to religion
Discussion
I had an epiphany when I was 12 as I suddenly realised religion was all about power, fear and control and I was never going to having anything to do with it.
We had a Christian music band come around to our school and we was encouraged to go to their concert that Friday night at the Parr hall in Warrington, several of us did as did I, about half way through the epiphany hit me and I walked out.
We had a Christian music band come around to our school and we was encouraged to go to their concert that Friday night at the Parr hall in Warrington, several of us did as did I, about half way through the epiphany hit me and I walked out.
cirian75 said:
I had an epiphany when I was 12 as I suddenly realised religion was all about power, fear and control and I was never going to having anything to do with it.
We had a Christian music band come around to our school and we was encouraged to go to their concert that Friday night at the Parr hall in Warrington, several of us did as did I, about half way through the epiphany hit me and I walked out.
You had an "Unreligous" moment.We had a Christian music band come around to our school and we was encouraged to go to their concert that Friday night at the Parr hall in Warrington, several of us did as did I, about half way through the epiphany hit me and I walked out.
Whatever "faith" I had or fear of not having has dwindled over the years and has become active dislike of religion, its what people do to fill int he gaps in understanding, we dont know all the answers and dont need to, and so many gaps have been filled in since all this stuff was first started, which isnt all that long ago in terms of history.
I was interested in my twenties, at least wanted to give it some thought, a chap I worked with was super religous and gave me loads to think about and read, then his desk was cleared one day and never saw him again, in prison for historic sex offences, that was a clincher for me, I knew he was odd but I never thought he was a paedo, not saying all religous folk are weird perverts, obviously not but I though he was as good as a person as I knew but he turned out to be about the worst, the biggest irony being his anti gay stances, all religiously justified but he was done for buggering a 12 year old boy.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
cirian75 said:
I had an epiphany when I was 12 as I suddenly realised religion was all about power, fear and control and I was never going to having anything to do with it.
12.....What took you so long? I had that sussed by 8 or 9 and I'm was no child genius. 
No s
t.My kids go to a CofE primary school, my 9 year old girl is a people pleaser, like with the Santa thing, I think she's deferred any cynicism of God and Jesus talk because she doesn't want to offend other peoples beliefs and likes the allegory and narrative tales that the bible provides, which shouldn't be underestimated as a means of educating children. I've dropped hints and she just smiles at me and say "I know it seems silly but they have to teach us this stuff it's a church school"
My son however is 5 and just finished reception, he's repeatedly told me that it's ridiculous to think God is watching him etc... He saw a women in a Burkha at Pizza Hut yesterday and asked me why she was wearing it, I said to please God, he laughed and said "Is she stupid?"
My son however is 5 and just finished reception, he's repeatedly told me that it's ridiculous to think God is watching him etc... He saw a women in a Burkha at Pizza Hut yesterday and asked me why she was wearing it, I said to please God, he laughed and said "Is she stupid?"
T5XARV said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
cirian75 said:
I had an epiphany when I was 12 as I suddenly realised religion was all about power, fear and control and I was never going to having anything to do with it.
12.....What took you so long? I had that sussed by 8 or 9 and I'm was no child genius. No s
t.It's interesting that those posters who have turned their back on religion seem very angry to have ever believed in religion in the first place - almost like they had a very negative experience whilst they believed?
In addition there seems to be tangible resentfulness of those who continue to practice religion.
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist is almost like a an extreme religious person shouting that we're all doomed.
Just find it interesting re behaviours.
In addition there seems to be tangible resentfulness of those who continue to practice religion.
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist is almost like a an extreme religious person shouting that we're all doomed.
Just find it interesting re behaviours.
I have just read through this entire thread and it turned out `as expected`.
At least we can talk about the existence/non existence of God because we couldn't have done that a few hundred years ago.
Just goes to show how much ground religion has conceded and how less important and less controlling it has become.
We are going the right way seemingly.
At least we can talk about the existence/non existence of God because we couldn't have done that a few hundred years ago.
Just goes to show how much ground religion has conceded and how less important and less controlling it has become.
We are going the right way seemingly.
bigkeeko said:
I have just read through this entire thread and it turned out `as expected`.
At least we can talk about the existence/non existence of God because we couldn't have done that a few hundred years ago.
Just goes to show how much ground religion has conceded and how less important and less controlling it has become.
We are going the right way seemingly.
Well that rather depends on whether God does exist or not and how vengeful or jealous he may be. It does seem that as religion has changed (evolved) like the rest of human culture we've moved from vengeful Gods (like Thor or Odin) who must be placated to vengeful Humans who must be placated on behalf of God.At least we can talk about the existence/non existence of God because we couldn't have done that a few hundred years ago.
Just goes to show how much ground religion has conceded and how less important and less controlling it has become.
We are going the right way seemingly.
BigLion said:
It's interesting that those posters who have turned their back on religion seem very angry to have ever believed in religion in the first place - almost like they had a very negative experience whilst they believed?
In addition there seems to be tangible resentfulness of those who continue to practice religion.
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist is almost like a an extreme religious person shouting that we're all doomed.
Just find it interesting re behaviours.
When I walked away from it I wasn't bitter at all, in fact I felt free like I never had before and felt no animosity towards other religious people or religion itelf.In addition there seems to be tangible resentfulness of those who continue to practice religion.
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist is almost like a an extreme religious person shouting that we're all doomed.
Just find it interesting re behaviours.
As I get older and the consequences of the young years I wasted due to my religious priorities and values become apparent, I find that I feel bitter about it in ways I never did before. I also see my young self in young religious people when they likewise sacrifice their own gain for their religious choices and tend to view religion as a malign influence giving people false hope and locking them into a tribaliist mindset.
lionelf said:
BigLion said:
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist
Who 'shouts' about being an Atheist?Atheists might 'shout' when told something is a fact when it is either patently untrue or at best unprovable but they never shout about the condition of being an Atheist.
BigLion said:
lionelf said:
BigLion said:
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist
Who 'shouts' about being an Atheist?Atheists might 'shout' when told something is a fact when it is either patently untrue or at best unprovable but they never shout about the condition of being an Atheist.
Nanook said:
FredClogs said:
Well that rather depends on whether God does exist or not and how vengeful or jealous he may be. It does seem that as religion has changed (evolved) like the rest of human culture we've moved from vengeful Gods (like Thor or Odin) who must be placated to vengeful Humans who must be placated on behalf of God.
For me, God, and Religion, are 2 very different issues and concepts.If God does exist, do you think he cares if we eat shellfish? Or use condoms? Or eat pork? Or turn the lights on for ourselves on a Saturday?
If he did, he'd have done something about it, something other than telling someone "Write this down, don't eat prawns"
lionelf said:
BigLion said:
lionelf said:
BigLion said:
Further the passion of shouting about being an atheist
Who 'shouts' about being an Atheist?Atheists might 'shout' when told something is a fact when it is either patently untrue or at best unprovable but they never shout about the condition of being an Atheist.
cirian75 said:
We had a Christian music band come around to our school and we was encouraged to go to their concert that Friday night at the Parr hall in Warrington, several of us did as did I, about half way through the epiphany hit me and I walked out.
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