Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 5)
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I think it highlights that everyone has different ideas of "common sense" and usually theirs is the right one.
I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
They’ve just done that in Ireland .. no more than 2km from you home address unless for an allowed/essential reason I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
It’s coming to the U.K. I’d imagine because people have no ‘cop on’
otolith - Vol4 said:
Ah, perhaps I am making the mistake of reading it like a person who can read a graph even when you change the scale.
I'm sure you can read a graph. I'm sure I can too.But the graph from Daily Mail was deliberately formatted to make it look like deaths are spiking at a rate that would make the plague proud.
All the media are doing it. And if you have any common sense at all, you can see its f
king retarded!sherbertdip - Vol4 said:
Congratulations to them, what was their previous "record" time?
I was in the Javits Center las year. It's about the size of 1 of the 2 halls at Excel. Interestingly a while back one of the news correspondents was stood outside it saying "oh look, it's completely dead down here due to the lockdown"It's an area on the West of the city, near the Lincoln Tunnel, and it's basically a massive regeneration project. Construction sites everywhere Of course there's no people milling about. There's no reason to go there!
https://goo.gl/maps/MvpQ7x6AweeugJgF9
Stay in Bed Instead - vol4 said:
sherbertdip said:
Which shop, and where?
A small local co op where I usually go.I use a small M & S at a petrol station in the week. The selection there has been poor, no fresh chicken or bacon but the odd steak. I did get a loaf there in the week.
I used to go to a large ASDA at 5am on my way to work to get non food stuff but they are no longer open at that time.
anxious ant vol4 said:
From how things are progressing, it's the economic impact that will wreck havoc.
The economic meltdown caused by covid-19 is set to be the worst ever in human history.
Sure some of you are lucky enough to have savings or what you think is a secure job. Perhaps you think the government is there to assist financially. How long would this last?
fThe economic meltdown caused by covid-19 is set to be the worst ever in human history.
Sure some of you are lucky enough to have savings or what you think is a secure job. Perhaps you think the government is there to assist financially. How long would this last?
ks sake It's going to be 6-8 weeks per country shut down fully. (and most aren't fully shut) I don't think you fully understand economics!
B'stard Child said:
Have we reached Peak Covid 19 on PH?
Possibly not but we took a day longer to finish Vol 4 and in the first few days it looked like it would be done in 4
| Vol # | Start Date | End Date | Days | Weeks | Other Threads |
| Vol 5 | 28/03/2020 | - | |||
| Vol 4 | 20/03/2020 | 28/03/2020 | 8 | 1 | 32 |
| Vol 3 | 13/03/2020 | 20/03/2020 | 7 | 1 | 9 |
| Vol 2 | 01/03/2020 | 13/03/2020 | 12 | 2 | 6 |
| Vol 1 | 18/01/2020 | 01/03/2020 | 43 | 6 | 1 |
Possibly not but we took a day longer to finish Vol 4 and in the first few days it looked like it would be done in 4
Jimboka said:
Carl_Manchester said:
supermarket update is that local sainsbury's is now almost fully restocked with some exceptions. toilet roll in abundance. I had to queue for an hour to get in mind, from 8am. the new holy grail is now tinned tomatoes, after a while of not seeing one, i felt like indiana jones lifting up one of the last cans.
the priority deliveries to over 70s have been working fine for my parents using click and deliver.
It’s not any over 70 though, only if in the vulnerable list.. My 79 year old mum can’t get a look in. She’s especially mad as they took her £20 a quarter delivery fee yesterday too! She’s binning them asap. The home delivery services have badly let us all downthe priority deliveries to over 70s have been working fine for my parents using click and deliver.
In fairness to the supermarkets they have been swamped with requests and it seems unreasonable to be too critical of them when it's clear they were never going to be able to cope right from the get-go.
I understand that all the majors will be getting a list of all the 1.5 million people on the 'vulnerable' list which is the people who received the letter telling them that they are confined to their properties for 12 weeks.
I'm not sure yet how it will work or how the people will know it exists, needless to say once my deliveries stop and those of others stop also, the options currently available to get supplies are non-existent and if you don't have any support from others many will be in serious trouble.
There was a story on the Beeb earlier today about a nurse who was in collision with another car.
The driver (of the other car) didn't stop and continued driving on albeit very slowly and the nurse followed for obvious reasons.
Eventually, the driver of the car stopped and the nurse got out and approached the car and the driver opened his door.
The driver was an elderly gent, clearly distressed and visibly unwell.
He had no support from anyone, no family, no friends and in sheer desperation had tried to get some supplies but had failed (I imagine due to the queues to get into the shops) and had given up to drive home when he collided with the car the nurse was driving.
The nurse stayed with the old gent for 5 hours until the emergency services arrived and the gent was taken to hospital.
Sadly the elderly gent passed away that evening (not sure if it was the virus), a very sad and tragic story, but also a story of extraordinary bravery on the part of the nurse who clearly put her own well being at risk.
PS: It's not a facebook tale, Naga presented the piece which also featured the nurse involved.
Gromm said:
markyb_lcy said:
I’m finding it a little funny how many posts are following the same template...
“I went to [insert location here] and there were lots of people. [insert criticism of other people here]”
It’s amazing how quick people are to criticise others without considering their own actions first.
We are turning into a country of curtain twitching grasses. Not a good look imo. I think we all need to realise this isn’t an easy situation to transition to and maybe cut each other a little bit of slack. Sure, by all means tell people when they’re being irresponsible, but starting fights over it and grassing bob up to the police because he left his house 3 times in 24 hrs .... all a little over the top imo.
What, you mean like Germany? Many moons ago some berk reversed into my mates Trabant while it was parked on the street and his front license plate fell off while he was at work. Next thing he knows two coppers is knocking on his door asking questions. Apparently his landlady an old quiet and very friendly Frau whom he been helping with groceries and DYI called the cops as she was concerned that he is breaking the law. She told him that the following morning. “I went to [insert location here] and there were lots of people. [insert criticism of other people here]”
It’s amazing how quick people are to criticise others without considering their own actions first.
We are turning into a country of curtain twitching grasses. Not a good look imo. I think we all need to realise this isn’t an easy situation to transition to and maybe cut each other a little bit of slack. Sure, by all means tell people when they’re being irresponsible, but starting fights over it and grassing bob up to the police because he left his house 3 times in 24 hrs .... all a little over the top imo.
I would be very upset if my neighbour did that without having a word with me first.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think it highlights that everyone has different ideas of "common sense" and usually theirs is the right one.
I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
5-10 miles on a bike really isn't very far at all and shouldn't take very long.I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
If the journey is through open countryside that is very different to a blast around heavily populated areas (probability of becoming a spreader).
There are so many variables with all this that the government may be left with no choice but to use very broad stokes though.
They'll need to use a one size fits all to avoid the but, but, but merchants out there.
Earthdweller said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think it highlights that everyone has different ideas of "common sense" and usually theirs is the right one.
I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
They’ve just done that in Ireland .. no more than 2km from you home address unless for an allowed/essential reason I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
It’s coming to the U.K. I’d imagine because people have no ‘cop on’
Just watched a long video by a pulmonologist in a NY hospital. The overriding message is that C-19 infection is overwhelmingly caused by touching surfaces that have the virus on them and then touching your face. Avoiding catching it really is about hand washing/disinfecting and above all the mental exercise of being aware of what your hands are doing in relation to your face.
Masks are considered largely unnecessary except for those in a medical environment doing procedures with infected patients. Though he did note that wearing a mask is very good way to stop you touching your face, so they do serve a purpose.
For those that want to to see the video (it’s bloody long!), here’s the link.
https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share
Masks are considered largely unnecessary except for those in a medical environment doing procedures with infected patients. Though he did note that wearing a mask is very good way to stop you touching your face, so they do serve a purpose.
For those that want to to see the video (it’s bloody long!), here’s the link.
https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share
Jimboka said:
Carl_Manchester said:
the priority deliveries to over 70s have been working fine for my parents using click and deliver.
It’s not any over 70 though, only if in the vulnerable list.. My 79 year old mum can’t get a look in. She’s especially mad as they took her £20 a quarter delivery fee yesterday too! She’s binning them asap. The home delivery services have badly let us all downks are the 'priority deliveries' working, can't get deliveries full stop, having to sort out supply runs instead. markyb_lcy said:
Gromm said:
What, you mean like Germany? Many moons ago some berk reversed into my mates Trabant while it was parked on the street and his front license plate fell off while he was at work. Next thing he knows two coppers is knocking on his door asking questions. Apparently his landlady an old quiet and very friendly Frau whom he been helping with groceries and DYI called the cops as she was concerned that he is breaking the law. She told him that the following morning.
That wouldn’t happen here in or outside of the crisis ... the bill don’t even show up when your house has been robbed!I would be very upset if my neighbour did that without having a word with me first.
Has anyone here, or their parents, received the shielding group ‘letter’ that was meant to be delivered this week?
My parents are 150 miles away in Edinburgh, 80yo and in reasonable health apart from diabetes and a dicky ticker, but haven’t heard anything, and struggling to get home delivery. They are of the stoic don’t-like-to-ask mindset, and not looking for any sort of handouts, but not much of the promised provision seems to be getting put in place. Just wondering other experiences.
My parents are 150 miles away in Edinburgh, 80yo and in reasonable health apart from diabetes and a dicky ticker, but haven’t heard anything, and struggling to get home delivery. They are of the stoic don’t-like-to-ask mindset, and not looking for any sort of handouts, but not much of the promised provision seems to be getting put in place. Just wondering other experiences.
S1KRR said:
Do we have any idea why though? Is it just that they last a bit longer than fresh ones?
I've never met anyone in my life who has consumed a tinned tomato. I find fresh ones upsetting enough, tinned would make me lick the nearest shop door handle. I hope food banks have a bumper crop when this is all over.
Gromm said:
What, you mean like Germany? Many moons ago some berk reversed into my mates Trabant while it was parked on the street and his front license plate fell off while he was at work. Next thing he knows two coppers is knocking on his door asking questions. Apparently his landlady an old quiet and very friendly Frau whom he been helping with groceries and DYI called the cops as she was concerned that he is breaking the law. She told him that the following morning.
righty ho.Is there a hotline we can call if we see our neighbours getting into their car with their dog?
Obvs not going for a walk locally
Red 4 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think it highlights that everyone has different ideas of "common sense" and usually theirs is the right one.
I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
5-10 miles on a bike really isn't very far at all and shouldn't take very long.I'm struggling with the irony of going 5-10 miles on a bike and feeling like you're in a position to tell someone their journey isn't essential even when it clearly isn't.
Do we really want to get to the point where there are designated maximum distances for exercise though?
No but that's where it'll likely end up so long as everyone persuades themselves they're OK because "the rules say I can do it".
If the journey is through open countryside that is very different to a blast around heavily populated areas (probability of becoming a spreader).
There are so many variables with all this that the government may be left with no choice but to use very broad stokes though.
They'll need to use a one size fits all to avoid the but, but, but merchants out there.
Just watching on the news about it in Africa, it's probably will cause big problems but I don't think in the same way it is in other places.
The majority dying are older people with underlying conditions. You don't get many of these people in third world countries as they are all ready dead.
They tend to be much younger populations so less at risk of the virus.
The majority dying are older people with underlying conditions. You don't get many of these people in third world countries as they are all ready dead.
They tend to be much younger populations so less at risk of the virus.
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