CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 7)
Discussion
klan8456 said:
Adherence is very good in my development. Concierge has asked us to report any breaches, and they are actively monitoring CCTV and reporting breaches to the police.
Suits you sirhttps://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Snitches-get-S...
HoHoHo said:
TeamD said:
klan8456 said:
Adherence is very good in my development. Concierge has asked us to report any breaches, and they are actively monitoring CCTV and reporting breaches to the police.
Has he/she indeed? Recently at all? Do they keep you posted whilst you're away 'cos' your posting in the Pro Vaxers thread has you on the other side of the world...klan8456 said:
It can be done. I’m in New Zealand now and life is AMAZING. The UK just chose not to pursue eradication.
Post time 12:39
Perhaps as well as expensive security in the UK Klan8456 has a Mach II private jetliner?
t he usually posts.You all laugh at this guy and his development, but I’ve also lived in one of these developments in East London. It was a pretty famous landmark development on the river next to Canary Wharf, which I suspect is similar to the other guy.
What many of you may not realise, is East London is generally speaking full of degenerate scumbags. It’s come along way and is getting better, but there is a massive population of scum that almost exclusively live on the nearby council estates. Hence why you need to have a 4 man security team, just to make sure these council sorts don’t start stealing the Lamborghinis in the car park.
What many of you may not realise, is East London is generally speaking full of degenerate scumbags. It’s come along way and is getting better, but there is a massive population of scum that almost exclusively live on the nearby council estates. Hence why you need to have a 4 man security team, just to make sure these council sorts don’t start stealing the Lamborghinis in the car park.
Jiebo said:
You all laugh at this guy and his development, but I’ve also lived in one of these developments in East London. It was a pretty famous landmark development on the river next to Canary Wharf, which I suspect is similar to the other guy.
What many of you may not realise, is East London is generally speaking full of degenerate scumbags. It’s come along way and is getting better, but there is a massive population of scum that almost exclusively live on the nearby council estates. Hence why you need to have a 4 man security team, just to make sure these council sorts don’t start stealing the Lamborghinis in the car park.
We laugh at him because he's full of sWhat many of you may not realise, is East London is generally speaking full of degenerate scumbags. It’s come along way and is getting better, but there is a massive population of scum that almost exclusively live on the nearby council estates. Hence why you need to have a 4 man security team, just to make sure these council sorts don’t start stealing the Lamborghinis in the car park.
t, no more, no less.Between klan and lemming train's insane fantasies really brightening up this thread so far.... I wonder when some sense will return. Mindlessly jumping on any piece of 'news' to confirm whatever opinion one might have irrespective of whether it actually makes sense or is justifiable would be welcome in light of some of the wackier stuff being bandied around so far.
isaldiri said:
Between klan and lemming train's insane fantasies really brightening up this thread so far.... I wonder when some sense will return. Mindlessly jumping on any piece of 'news' to confirm whatever opinion one might have irrespective of whether it actually makes sense or is justifiable would be welcome in light of some of the wackier stuff being bandied around so far.
C'mon isaldiri, we're just having a bit of light relief before we all go completely mad 
isaldiri said:
Between klan and lemming train's insane fantasies really brightening up this thread so far.... I wonder when some sense will return. Mindlessly jumping on any piece of 'news' to confirm whatever opinion one might have irrespective of whether it actually makes sense or is justifiable would be welcome in light of some of the wackier stuff being bandied around so far.
It'll never happen!
This reinforces a TalkRadio interview with Iain Duncan-Smith a couple of days ago, where his language was utterly damning of how things are being handled by BoJo and his cronies.
I must admit, I am at a total loss as to how we have - as a country - arrived where we are.
I was supportive of lockdown #1. New virus, best be careful and all that. Then, late July, it was all about a careful easing of restrictions. BUT.........you all need to wear masks in shops. Wait! What? No requirement for masks during the height of the pandemic, but with deaths falling we now need to wear them? Really?
Then:
Eat Out to Help Out
Encouraged to return to work
Get back to schools and Uni's
Then:
Tiers of restrictions to prevent lockdown #2
Masks in pubs
Work from home if possible
Quarantine Uni's
Then:
The Tiers seem to be working
SAGE say, using classroom "graphs", Tiers are not working
Lockdown #2
Announced that Tiers are being re-introduced after lockdown #2
Despite it being claimed that Tiers don't work prior to enforcing lockdown #2
And:
We'll give you 5 days "freedom" over Christmas
But you'll pay for it
And you'll not play board games
Nor hug elderly relatives
And keep your windows open
No.10 has lost the f
king plot and, for me, are now a laughing stock. Monty fking Python could not have made it up.Tony427 said:
Bit of a Vox Pop.
Since the start of the current lockdown , not the next lockdown , this current lockdown, I have been largely ignoring its dictats re not seing people, not doing non essential journeys etc. The closing of pubs and restaurants has really been the biggest bugbear for me. So much so that I have been forced to look out of my lounge window during daylight hours when the MSM lies became too much. .
However what really surprised me is just how few fks the older generation seem to give. Across the road from me there live two aged couples , so mid to late 70's, and both seem to have a never ending stream of visitors both family, friends and workmen. One have had roofers, builders, kitchen fitters and bathroom fitters as they seem to embarked on a lockdown refurbishment without one mask in sight.
There's me , thinking I am sticking it to the man by going to see family and friends . and theres a brace of OAP couples having the equivalent of Glastonberry going in in a three bedroomed bungalow opposite.
How are your neighbours adhering to the govt dictats? Are they like mine, oblivious, or are they the modern day equivalent of Mr Hodges?
Cheers,
Tony
As I said on the previous volume, no one has asked the old people if they actually want saving. From the ones I've spoken to, they don't! They don't want to be spared at the expense of their children and grand children's futures. They'd all rather enjoy the time they have left than be stuck inside not being able to do the very things that keep them ticking. I've seen first hand what happens when you are aged, living alone and become house bound...the will to live quickly vanishes.Since the start of the current lockdown , not the next lockdown , this current lockdown, I have been largely ignoring its dictats re not seing people, not doing non essential journeys etc. The closing of pubs and restaurants has really been the biggest bugbear for me. So much so that I have been forced to look out of my lounge window during daylight hours when the MSM lies became too much. .
However what really surprised me is just how few f
ks the older generation seem to give. Across the road from me there live two aged couples , so mid to late 70's, and both seem to have a never ending stream of visitors both family, friends and workmen. One have had roofers, builders, kitchen fitters and bathroom fitters as they seem to embarked on a lockdown refurbishment without one mask in sight. There's me , thinking I am sticking it to the man by going to see family and friends . and theres a brace of OAP couples having the equivalent of Glastonberry going in in a three bedroomed bungalow opposite.
How are your neighbours adhering to the govt dictats? Are they like mine, oblivious, or are they the modern day equivalent of Mr Hodges?
Cheers,
Tony
anonymous said:
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This has been a point I've raised several times. Terms of government are fine to slowly steer a meandering ship but for issues like Brexit or covid they're totally impractical, the people in power may very well suddenly be at the wrong end of what the public wants and worse they're often fair instantaneous fairly binary decisions you can't unpick them later. It's something our system of governance needs to fixHoHoHo said:
TeamD said:
klan8456 said:
Adherence is very good in my development. Concierge has asked us to report any breaches, and they are actively monitoring CCTV and reporting breaches to the police.
Has he/she indeed? Recently at all? Do they keep you posted whilst you're away 'cos' your posting in the Pro Vaxers thread has you on the other side of the world...klan8456 said:
It can be done. I’m in New Zealand now and life is AMAZING. The UK just chose not to pursue eradication.
Post time 12:39Perhaps as well as expensive security in the UK Klan8456 has a Mach II private jetliner?
Latest letter to my MP, for what it's worth (he simply ignored the last one).
Feel free to copy it and send to yours if you feel it's relevant. MPs are like small children, they're desperate for approval and favour. If they understand that the mood is running against the current nonsense they just might try to turn and run with it.
I hope very much that you saw and agreed with Sir Charles Walker’s recent speech against Covid restrictions. If not, it’s available on the Parliamentarian channel of YouTube, as is his outrage at an elderly lady peacefully protesting outside parliament being arrested and carried spreadeagled to a police van.
It’s time for the insanity to stop now. The Sage modellers fear mongering predictions have been proven by the figures from the ONS to be completely unfounded yet again and worse, we have now entered a very dangerous area where the police (happy to allow BLM protests to go ahead despite threats of a second wave from the modellers - never happened) are actually physically stopping the public’s right to protest against this madness.
Politicians and the police are playing a very dangerous game when they play with the nation’s basic freedoms and civil rights. I trust that, as our MP, you will be standing up for the people, and not for your chums at Westminster hell bent on wrecking the economy, instilling fear with mandatory (and clearly pointless) face masks and promoting house arrest of the nation.
Feel free to copy it and send to yours if you feel it's relevant. MPs are like small children, they're desperate for approval and favour. If they understand that the mood is running against the current nonsense they just might try to turn and run with it.
I hope very much that you saw and agreed with Sir Charles Walker’s recent speech against Covid restrictions. If not, it’s available on the Parliamentarian channel of YouTube, as is his outrage at an elderly lady peacefully protesting outside parliament being arrested and carried spreadeagled to a police van.
It’s time for the insanity to stop now. The Sage modellers fear mongering predictions have been proven by the figures from the ONS to be completely unfounded yet again and worse, we have now entered a very dangerous area where the police (happy to allow BLM protests to go ahead despite threats of a second wave from the modellers - never happened) are actually physically stopping the public’s right to protest against this madness.
Politicians and the police are playing a very dangerous game when they play with the nation’s basic freedoms and civil rights. I trust that, as our MP, you will be standing up for the people, and not for your chums at Westminster hell bent on wrecking the economy, instilling fear with mandatory (and clearly pointless) face masks and promoting house arrest of the nation.
klan8456 said:
Well it is the only place I’ve lived in the UK, for forgive me for thinking it’s normal!
My friend’s place in Holland Park is even better. SC 40 - 100k, and you simply cannot get into the residence without passing through the security office (ex military and lots of Eastern Europeans) and then reception and providing photo ID. So they’re locked down tonight there.
Beyond those 2 places, I haven’t been to any other residences in the UK.
Gated apartment complexes are fairly normal for certain parts of London now, typically built post 2005 in an area that wouldn't normally support a development marketed at the rental (or sale) prices charged. Lots and lots in the former royal docks, eventually once the area is sufficiently gentrified the additional security will melt away. My friend’s place in Holland Park is even better. SC 40 - 100k, and you simply cannot get into the residence without passing through the security office (ex military and lots of Eastern Europeans) and then reception and providing photo ID. So they’re locked down tonight there.
Beyond those 2 places, I haven’t been to any other residences in the UK.
Edited by klan8456 on Sunday 29th November 21:53
The security is mostly there to make the residents of £1.5m+ apartments feel secure in an development the average earners for the area couldn't dream of living.
Holland park is interesting area the conservation area is absolutely expensive mostly of houses owned by very wealthy people. Then you have wider area where new build developers will label schemes that really are in Earls court, Shepherds bush, Hammersmith with the Holland Park tag because doing so add 100k's to the value.
For those of you not up the latest trends in London apartments not all that long ago after council planners stopped the practice of building separate social and private blocks. A new trend emerged to segregate social and private elements in the same building via separate entrances, lifts and stairs so that mr Billy Big Balls in finance paying £2k per/week wouldn't have to mix with Miss Pond Scum paying £200 per/week.
I can think of one particularly odious development where the two entrances where next to each other. The private entrance had a 24hr staffed concierge and security, the social side didn't and the private security wouldn't come out to problems on the social side. Anyho these fed the same stair/lift lobby which had been divided down the middle by a mesh screen you could literally see how the other half lived but not access it. Separate lifts with different interior specs, vandal resistant for the social side not for the private.
MDMetal said:
This has been a point I've raised several times. Terms of government are fine to slowly steer a meandering ship but for issues like Brexit or covid they're totally impractical, the people in power may very well suddenly be at the wrong end of what the public wants and worse they're often fair instantaneous fairly binary decisions you can't unpick them later. It's something our system of governance needs to fix
We have government by focus group and realistic have operated this system since the early 90's, works well for dealing with fairly minor tweaking around the edges but ultimately fails are more complex and longer term politics. Brexit without thinking through the consequences, deficit spending in the mid naughties when the economy was buoyant and for that matter woeful response to CV19. The constant flip-flopping on policy is testament to chasing sentiment not having an actual policy.
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