Thanks Maggie, 85 today!

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colonel c

7,890 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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She was such a good and well loved Prim Minister her cabinet colleagues tried in vain to persuade her not to resign in 1990.

No hang on!

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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colonel c said:
She was such a good and well loved Prim Minister her cabinet colleagues tried in vain to persuade her not to resign in 1990.

No hang on!
Name a PM who stepped down whilst in office of his own accord.

Explain the 1987 election while you're at it.

Then remind us why Labour still couldn't win in 1992.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Zod said:
colonel c said:
She was such a good and well loved Prim Minister her cabinet colleagues tried in vain to persuade her not to resign in 1990.

No hang on!
Name a PM who stepped down whilst in office of his own accord.

Explain the 1987 election while you're at it.

Then remind us why Labour still couldn't win in 1992.
Didn't tony B Liar jump before he was pushed too?

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Brown pushed him as we all know.

colonel c

7,890 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Zod said:
colonel c said:
She was such a good and well loved Prim Minister her cabinet colleagues tried in vain to persuade her not to resign in 1990.

No hang on!
Name a PM who stepped down whilst in office of his own accord.

Explain the 1987 election while you're at it.

Then remind us why Labour still couldn't win in 1992.
I thought the topic was about Thatcher. So why did her own cabinet force her out?


Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Zod said:
colonel c said:
She was such a good and well loved Prim Minister her cabinet colleagues tried in vain to persuade her not to resign in 1990.

No hang on!
Name a PM who stepped down whilst in office of his own accord.
Tony Blair would be the most recent example, others that come to mind are Anthony Eden, Churchill, Bonar Law and MacDonald. Ill health has often resulted in PMs standing down.

Thatcher is a rare example of a serving PM being forced out, normally the go after losing an election.

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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All were beyond their use-by dates, including Thatcher. Hers took longer to come than those of the rest.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Zod said:
All were beyond their use-by dates, including Thatcher. Hers took longer to come than those of the rest.
Considering Bonar Law was PM for 212 days, it's difficult to say he was past his sell by date.

groak

3,254 posts

181 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Thatcher? Gruesome old bat. Gone bonkers by all accounts.

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Fittster said:
Zod said:
All were beyond their use-by dates, including Thatcher. Hers took longer to come than those of the rest.
Considering Bonar Law was PM for 212 days, it's difficult to say he was past his sell by date.
Bonar-Law's situation was pretty bloody unusual.

tamore

7,069 posts

286 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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tony bliar stepped down of his own accord? don't make me laugh.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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tamore said:
tony bliar stepped down of his own accord? don't make me laugh.
Was he voted out by his colleagues or the electorate? No.

By definition he stepped down of his own accord.

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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So, not unlike Margaret Thatcher then, who stepped down of her own accord for the good of the party, rather than enter a second ballot.


dbdb

4,338 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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It would be fascinating to know whether there are regional variations in Thatcher appreciation. I'm from the North West and I really don't think she is quite so well liked or admired up here. smile

ukwill

8,922 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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dbdb said:
It would be fascinating to know whether there are regional variations in Thatcher appreciation. I'm from the North West and I really don't think she is quite so well liked or admired up here. smile
She gets the blame for the effects of globalisation. It was going to happen to the UK regardless of who the PM was. But it's always nice to have an escapegoat. wink







(whoosh in advance)

grumbledoak

31,584 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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dbdb said:
It would be fascinating to know whether there are regional variations in Thatcher appreciation. I'm from the North West and I really don't think she is quite so well liked or admired up here. smile
Check the coloured voting map for the last election, even on the BBC. Largely the red bits will be anti-Thatcher.

Westy Pre-Lit

5,087 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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groak said:
Thatcher? Gruesome old bat. Gone bonkers by all accounts.
Gone you say.....I thought that happened in early 80's smile. Should have burnt the witch a long time ago.